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Billy Packer "fags out" on Charlie Rose

By Cyd Zeigler jr. 

CBS college basketball announcer Billy Packer used the term "fag out" in an interview with Charlie Rose on Friday, March 30. He says he would do it again.

The exchange between the two came at the end of Rose's interview of Packer in Atlanta that revolved mostly around the men's Final Four.

"Do you need a runner this Final Four?" Rose asked, "because I could jump on a plane and I could be there."

"You always fag out on that one for me, you know," Packer responded, laughing. "You always say, oh yeah, I'm gonna be the runner, then you never show up. But I’m sure they can find a place for ya. You've got all the connections in the world. You can go ahead and be a runner anyplace you want to." 

Days after the story became public, Packer is sticking to his guns. "I said he fagged out on me and it had nothing to do with sexual connotation," Packer told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "I got to know Charlie a number of years ago and have great admiration for his program and intellect. He is a big Dukie, and he has been talking a number of years about coming to the Final Four to be a runner."

Packer said by "fag out," he meant the Dictionary.com definition, "to tire or weary by labor; exhaust."

"The term has nothing to do with sexuality," Packer said. "I think he is the most eligible bachelor. It's about a guy too lazy to get the work. ... I can assure you I will use that phrase again and I won't think twice about it. My meaning is genuine."

The term "fag out" is listed in many online dictionaries, all offering similar definitions. Urban Dictionary lists the definition, used in this context, as: "To bail on something, 'pussy out'." The site does not point to a directly homophobic derivation for the term, though the implication does seem clear.

WordWebOnline.com lists the origin as British and defines the term as: "Exhaust or get tired through overuse or great strain or stress." Openly gay former NBA player John Amaechi, who is British, told Outsports: "I can honestly say I have never heard that phrase used that way. Not in my entire life."

Vice-president of Communications for CBS Sports LeslieAnne Wade told Outsports, "I know he wasn't meaning to be insensitive at all.

"While it is a term that is in the dictionary, it was still a poor choice of words," Wade said. "I'm confident that he would agree that it was a bad choice of words."

Packer has been a part of men's college basketball tournament broadcasts since 1974. His words have, however, gotten him into trouble in the past. In 1996, he referred to then-Georgetown player Allen Iverson as a "tough monkey." In 2000, Packer apologized for allegedly saying to female Duke students who asked to see his press pass before allowing him entrance to a Duke basketball game, "Since when do we let women control who gets into a men's basketball game? Why don't you go find a women's game to let people into?"

Blogger Andy Towle of Towleroad.com can understand making a poor choice of words. But he still sees the societal dangers of having anti-gay terms in the general lexicon.

"[Packer] may not see it or intend it as offensive," Towle told Outsports. "However it is the casual usage of derogatory phrases like this and 'that's so gay' that just chip, chip, chip away and should not be tolerated, particularly in professional settings."

Before the age of Youtube and similar services, passing comments like this came and went. Initial reports to Outsports over the weekend were unsure of whether Packer said "fag" or not. However, the posting of the video at GoodAsYou.org offers a definitive answer.  


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Thanks to Don Rumgay Jr. for pointing Outsports to this story.


 


Story updated April 5 to include Packer's comments.
April 3, 2007