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As a Dallas fan I must say that this is just another game guys. TO does not define our organization just as Deion Sanders didn't. I think that the difference between Dallas and Philadelphia is that the Cowboy organization can deal with distractions (hookers, coke, anger management) and still win Super Bowls. We are special. And in that regard TO is just another player in a long line of players who'll hopefully help us win. Dallas doesn't have time to neurotically obsess over his moodiness and psychological problems. Go 'Boys!
P.S. - The Giants should trade Shockey to Denver. He'd work well with Jake Plummer. I only suggest this because it makes for a great locker room fantasy. Gay Jay signing off.
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QUOTE(UCLAfan @ Oct 4 2006, 05:06 PM)
Well, T.O. is going to play his old team, Philadelphia. This is a game I am just waiting with gleeful anticipation to see.
I for one cannot wait for it just to be over. The media coverage of this TO vs. McNabb "feud" got out of hand weeks ago -- a million times worse than the "Is Favre gonna retire?" stuff during the off-season. (and at least that was about a QB who actually has won a Super Bowl )
I'm much more looking forward to seeing how Lavar Arrington does against the 'skins.
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What's wrong with you, Bucky? The game is so big that the Eagles said that Al-Jazeera requested press credentials, reported the Phila. Daily News yesterday.
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The Giants did look good in what I saw of their game yesterday. They were very efficient and in-control, and the defense, which had been awful, looked strong. More importantly, both their wins are against NFC East opponents, which so far will put them in good stead in the likely event of tiebreakers being used to clear up the logjam in the division at season's end.
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The future is now Phills. I just didn't want you to be depressed when the Eagles performed like they did yesterday. You have to just be steady. Not too high, not too low. Think Splenda.
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QUOTE(Thomas @ Oct 17 2006, 06:51 AM)
I tried to convince you guys that the Giants were a good team. Maybe now, more of you will agree with me.
You're singing to the choir here-- but What makes a good team is the ability to come back from diversity and get the job done no matter how messy that may be.... At 3-2 let's remember, we lost to Indy & SEA--both top of heap. SEA was horrible-- agreed--but look at how hard the GMEN fought back in the last quarter. Considering the schedule we have-- I say the NYG is doing all right. If we keep improving the secondary, get rid of "Where's the ball Dane" and keep Tiki, Shockey-Ass, Plexico, and company healthy-- Eli can lead this team to win the NFC EAST and have a shot at the NFC championship. You like DC or Philly better?
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F**king unbelievable bad game for the Eagles. If you would tell anyone someone not named Vineteri would kick a 62 yard field goal to beat you I would have called you crazy.
McNabb should have never thrown three INTs in this type of a game where the Eagles offense was dominating. Donovan still had enough to take a lead late in the fourth. At the end of the half the Eagles left points on the field by not trying a field goal and completing a pass short of the goal line with time running out. Finally third game in a row that an awful penalty helps the Eagles give the game away, this time McDougle with a face mask and an unsportsmanlike resulting in a 30 yard penalty leading to a field goal by the Bucs.
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Kind of a typical loss for the Eagles. Stupid mistakes, dropped passes, loss of composure (McDougle kicking the flag -- if Reid wanted to send a message to the rest of the team he'd cut McDougle and not even let him fly back here on the plane), clock mismanagement at the end of the first half, etc.
They've wasted the "easy" early part of the schedule by going 4-3. It's unacceptable.
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Can't turn the ball over and its as simple as that. Look at the stats! 500+ yards of offense from the Eagles compared to about 200 for the lowly Bucs. But there were 3 interceptions and 1 fumble I believe...one of those interceptions run back for a touchdown. McNabb's foolish last second throw NOT into the endzone with no timeouts left before the half preventing a field goal that would've made a huge difference at the end. Still the Eagles came back and you felt it was in there hands. Then the penalty came and even with that you're thinking 62 yards???? No way!!! Yes way!!!
You can't turn the ball over no matter how good of a team you are. Bucs had no turnovers and the Eagles had 4 and thats the story of the game really. Philly has had some crushing losses this year. The NY game that they blew in the 4th, last week's Saints game that was close, and this unbelievable field goal kick from Tampa Bay. As much as it pisses me off...you have to take your hats off to that...62 yards!!! Unbelievable!! Gotta love football.
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QUOTE(mdterp01 @ Oct 22 2006, 05:02 PM)
Still the Eagles came back and you felt it was in there hands. Then the penalty came and even with that you're thinking 62 yards????
The penalty you're referring to, if it's the one I think you're referring to -- the double penalty on that MORON Jerome McDougle for kicking the penalty flag and getting an added penalty -- happened before the Eagles took the lead. It was on the prior drive when that 30 yards helped the Bucs get a field goal for a 20-14 lead. On the final drive the kickoff was two yards into the end zone and the Eagles allowed a return to nearly the 40. So many terrible mistakes all day.
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yeah...that is the penalty i was talking about. Big time mistakes that the Eagles can't afford to make. Their schedule does not get easy going down the stretch and the difference between the playoffs could very well come down to these 3 losses so far...losses that have come on the last play of the game. UGH!!!!
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Drew Bledsoe gets the boot and Tony Romo gets the start on Sunday.
While I agree with this move, I think it was a bad move to replace Bledsoe mid-game on Monday night. Thank God I was listening to the radio broadcast on Sirius and not the ESPN crew. I don't know what I'd do if I really did have to hear them talking.
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Yeah, but all those sideline shots of a helmetless Bledsoe with his hands hanging on his collar were almost worth it. What an absolute hunk.
Bledsoe's game has been bleeding for quite a while. He just doesn't seem to have the personality of a guy who really wants to win more than anything else. That was true with the Pats, Bills and now the cowboys.
The guy looked devastated but held up bravely during the game and the post-game interview. I hope he can settle into a back-up role. He still has a lot to contribute to the game.
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Wouldn't surprise me if Bledsoe got his starting job back sooner rather than later. Romo doesn't impress me at all. A typical rookie. Sure, he moves better than Bledsoe, but Bledsoe possesses an infinitely better football IQ. It's too bad Drew has two lead feet and moves like a tackling dummy. Why doesn't this dude just throw the damn ball away or go down? What's he trying to prove? The Cowboys O-line is bad, but not even the Pats O-line could provide the kind of time in the pocket that Bledsoe seems to need. Throw the ball away or throw it to a hot receiver. All those sacks are completely unnecessary. Sometimes I can't tell the difference between him and Herrington. Both are way too indecisive.
Philly will be fine once they get their playmakers back. Wouldn't count them out just yet. The offense is hurting right now, and, in my opinion, the defense has become predictable (it doesn't matter how much you blitz if the opponents knows you're going to; they'll just gameplan to take advantage of it). My pick to win that division, the Giants, however, are playing extremely well.
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Here's what Jerry Jones thinks about the swap of Romo for Bledsoe. Interesting that this is all being played out in public, and not being kept in the owner's office instead.
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QUOTE(Thomas @ Oct 27 2006, 03:19 AM)
Philly will be fine once they get their playmakers back. Wouldn't count them out just yet. The offense is hurting right now,
Huh? They're #1 in the league in total offense, #1 in passing, #3 in scoring, even #8 in rushing, the one thing they have trouble doing. Where exactly are they "hurting"?
The troubles they're having have been more on defense and special teams -- and a recurring penchant for ill-timed stupid mistakes like McNabb's at the end of the first half on Sunday.
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Dallas Wide Receivers coach Todd Haley is suing McDonlad's after he and his wife found a dead rat in a salad she brought home froma Dallas Mickey D's. Now I know TO has been unhappy, but this is just going too far!
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QUOTE(Joe in Philly @ Oct 27 2006, 10:40 PM)
Huh? They're #1 in the league in total offense, #1 in passing, #3 in scoring, even #8 in rushing, the one thing they have trouble doing. Where exactly are they "hurting"?
The troubles they're having have been more on defense and special teams -- and a recurring penchant for ill-timed stupid mistakes like McNabb's at the end of the first half on Sunday.
Joe, I was referrring to injured players; most notably Donte Stallworth. Seems like Philly has just one reliable WR with enough speed to get open regularly, Donte Stallworth. No matter how many times you throw the ball to Westbrook, he's not a WR, even though he is an excellent receiving back. Throwing to him in lieu of a WR limits the offense. A team can win in the NFL with mediocre, or no, WRs (e.g.; Patriots), but that's hard to do. I didn't see today's game, just highlites, but the stats don't look good; what with interceptions and turn overs. McNabb would have an easier time of it if he had another quality receiver that could get open, make the catch, hold on to the ball, and get yards aftee the catch. Philly has only one WR that can do this (Stallworth). I don't think Reggie is anywhere near as good as Stallworth.
I do agree with you about the Philly D. But I've always though that Philly blitzes its linebackers too much, leaving your CBs vulnerable (except for Sheppard) to the long ball when the LBs don't get to the QB. It's a very high risk defensive philosophy, especially on a team that has revamped its secondary because of injury and/or poor play.
I believe in stats too. But in Philly's case, they don't mean much. It just seems to me that Philly's offense, without Stallworth, and no running game to speak of, has become a one man show: McNabb. In order to right your ship; e.g, start winning again, that will have to change. I wasn't attacking your team; just expressing one man's opinion. I don't like what I'm seeing, on either side of the ball. from the Eagles right now. But, as I have to say in practically all my posts, I'm not a diehard fan. So, my opinions should be taken with a grain of salt.
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QUOTE(Thomas @ Oct 30 2006, 01:29 AM)
Joe, I was referrring to injured players; most notably Donte Stallworth. Seems like Philly has just one reliable WR with enough speed to get open regularly, Donte Stallworth. No matter how many times you throw the ball to Westbrook, he's not a WR, even though he is an excellent receiving back. Throwing to him in lieu of a WR limits the offense.
Yet they piled up all that offense (except yesterday, of course) mostly without Stallworth. And it wasn't all Westbrook. The other receivers all had big games during that stretch.
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QUOTE(Joe in Philly @ Oct 30 2006, 11:14 PM)
Yet they piled up all that offense (except yesterday, of course) mostly without Stallworth. And it wasn't all Westbrook. The other receivers all had big games during that stretch.
Ok, Joe. I've offered my opinions why the Eagles are struggling. You disagree. Tell me, why are the Eagles struggling? Why are they losing? I don't know if you're a Steeler fan, but that team is in far worse shape than the Eagles right now. Roethlisberger should be benched, for his sake (I really think his brain is fried; he needs time off to get healthy and mentally refreshed, once and for all; he should not be playing football), and for the sake of the team (so the Steelers can, at least, be competitive again). Charlie has played very welll this season, and deserves to start. I'm baffled by the brain-dead decisions Big Ben is making these days. He's not seeing wide open receivers, or, is afraid to throw to them; he scared to run the ball, even when there's tons of daylight before him, and he's lost confidence in himself. Cowher needs to step in and do the right thing here. It's time.
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