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Game finally delayed... should have been done a long time ago... but I won't complain. Upton has proven twice now that no one should ever question his hustle ever again.
Loved the (once-again) amorphous strike zone for Kazmir... this might be the worst umpiring job in the postseason I've ever seen.
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QUOTE(sooners2727 @ Oct 27 2008, 07:01 PM)
This response to me states a couple of things...
1) That you know I'm right and can't come up with one of your clever comebacks.
No, it just means I'm tired of your lame-ass shit. You've gone beyond pathetic and I'm not interested in playing with you any longer. I'm adding you to the Ignore list so I don't have to even see what you write from now on.
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2) That apparently you condone behavior such as pouring a beer on a 9-year-old child.
I didn't really read the story closely. I briefly clicked on the link and scanned it and noted the source and the tone. Did the same writer complain about the bottle of beer thrown at a Flyers player in Washington, or the beer thrown at a Flyers player in Montreal, both of which occurred this past spring? I'm guessing the answer is no. So I'm not interested in his slanted story. Especially since much if not all of its "truthiness" is in question based on one fact: at Citizens Bank Park, THERE ARE NO MUSTARD PACKETS GIVEN OUT. Mustard and ketchup are in large dispensers. You pump your condiments onto your food. So the story about mustard packets being thrown at someone? Ummm, no.
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With the surprise storm causing the suspension of the game, this Series has now officially entered the Twilight Zone.
There was no way the game would've been stopped while the Phils (or Rays) had the lead. Once they stopped it, it wasn't going to resume because the weather was obviously not going to improve, and there was no chance they'd allow either team to win a rain-shortened game. That's fine for the regular season but not the postseason.
With Hamels only throwing 75 pitches, if it goes to 7 games I would think he'd be available in relief in game 7 if need be. Or even start it, if they can't play tomorrow night and game 5 resumes Wednesday, with games 6 and 7 moved to Thursday and Friday.
And with the score tied and Hamels set to lead off the 6th, I think they might have hit for him anyway. Now, of course, they will.
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Got back from the rain shortened game tonight. I was annoyed that the game continued long past the start of the rain. I got to the stadium at 7:30pm and saw the live local radar and forecasts on TV at the stadium. It was completely obvious to anyone with half a brain that the rain would begin soon and once started would continue for a long time. Starting the game while it was dry was fine, but once the rain begun the tarp should have been thrown on the field and after a maximum of 75 minutes the game suspended. The officials decided to play almost an hour in the cold windy rain risking injury to players, not to mention having the fans sit through it for no good reason. They knew the game wouldn't be finished so why wait till the middle of the sixth inning.
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This series of less-than-generally-popular teams sure is viewer unfriendly. All these rain delays, the poor umpiring.
I was listening to a bit of the ESPN radio broadcast last night, and after the 5th inning Jon Miller said something like "It's now an official game" and I thought, "It is?" Surely they wouldn't call a World Series game after it's technically official after 5 innings.
Anyways, I went to bed before it was officially suspended.
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QUOTE(phillyrunner @ Oct 28 2008, 01:08 AM)
Got back from the rain shortened game tonight. I was annoyed that the game continued long past the start of the rain. I got to the stadium at 7:30pm and saw the live local radar and forecasts on TV at the stadium. It was completely obvious to anyone with half a brain that the rain would begin soon and once started would continue for a long time. Starting the game while it was dry was fine, but once the rain begun the tarp should have been thrown on the field and after a maximum of 75 minutes the game suspended. The officials decided to play almost an hour in the cold windy rain risking injury to players, not to mention having the fans sit through it for no good reason. They knew the game wouldn't be finished so why wait till the middle of the sixth inning.
If I recall, the rain started in the 4th? So in that case, the game would have never resumed with the Phillies leading 2-1 in the 4th. In a regular season game with no commissioner, that game then would be wiped out. Game 5 would be tonight starting over in the first inning. (since you couldn't have a suspended game in the 4th). I think that would have been more detrimental to both teams. Hamels and Kazmir would have been done. Now you'd have to move Garza and Myers up a day, and no more off day.
I think Selig would have had a LOT of explaining to do had he called the game after 5 when it was 2-1. No precendents with 105 years of world series play and nothing in the rule book saying otherwise. Even as a Phillie fan, would you have wanted the title in a 5 inning game?
At least this decision to suspend the game was within the rules with no "executive decisions" needed from Bud Selig.
If the rules committee smart this offseason, the would immediately add a rule into the book for this type of situation. Something to the effect of "All World Series games will be played for a minimum of 9 innings, regardless of how many days it takes". "Furthermore, any WS game that starts and then is held up for weather or other such delay will be suspended no matter what the score or inning". Something like this would have been more black and white for Welke's crew and for Maddon/Manuel to manage the situation. I bet if a rule like this was written, we would have the delay/suspension back in the 4th or 5th inning.
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QUOTE(phillyrunner @ Oct 28 2008, 06:08 AM)
I got to the stadium at 7:30pm and saw the live local radar and forecasts on TV at the stadium. It was completely obvious to anyone with half a brain that the rain would begin soon
Yes. Unfortunately, the half-brained are overqualified to run MLB.
I hope some of you, like me, caught the post-suspension press conference. (Best laugh was the ump who said the conditions "never became comical.")
Beelzebud said even if the score WASN'T tied, "No sir," it would not "under any circumstances" have ended as a shortened game. Apparently this was a rule B-bud devised and kept to himself, cuz Dim Tim & Joe Suck were analyzing the situation in blissful ignorance of it, and I'd never heard of it. B-bud also claimed all the forecasts he saw called no more than a half-inch of rain all night.
Someone on another board said last night's strike zone was "polygonal-shaped" ... Worst-umped Series I can recall, and I've been watching since '71.
You can bet they're not playing in extreme cold tonight ... cuz it was set to be a travel day, and Fox has a full slate of programming ready to go.
(And JIP, I know who Eva Longoria is. I even watched the brainless "Desperate Housewives" twice, and was unsurprised to learn it was "created" by a Republican fag. The chant is still misogynist and homophobic. Need to put down a rival? Call him a woman, girlfriend.)
Just think, if either team had signed Bonds they would probably have swept by now.
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Game 5, Part 2 is now postponed until tomorrow at 8:37 pm ET. Assuming they won't have an off-day if the series continues, games 6 and 7 (if necessary) would be Thursday and Friday, meaning Hamels could pitch game 7 on 3 days' rest -- and he only threw 75 pitches last night.
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QUOTE(Joe in Philly @ Oct 28 2008, 01:20 AM)
Nothing of consequence...
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I didn't really read the story closely. I briefly clicked on the link and scanned it and noted the source and the tone. Did the same writer complain about the bottle of beer thrown at a Flyers player in Washington, or the beer thrown at a Flyers player in Montreal, both of which occurred this past spring? I'm guessing the answer is no. So I'm not interested in his slanted story. Especially since much if not all of its "truthiness" is in question based on one fact: at Citizens Bank Park, THERE ARE NO MUSTARD PACKETS GIVEN OUT. Mustard and ketchup are in large dispensers. You pump your condiments onto your food. So the story about mustard packets being thrown at someone? Ummm, no.
Okay, there ya go. That's more like it. I can accept all of this... I don't agree with it, but at least you're engaging in a reasonable conversation. I'm not certain why a Tampa Bay columnist would write on a Flyers player having a beer tossed at him... especially in this piece baseball piece. And the key is player. The person in question in the article is a 9-year-old boy. I know, I know, you question the "truthiness" of it because of one fact that may or may not be correct (it's just that I find it hard to believe that you've visited every concessions POS or condiments kiosk in Citizens Bank Park... I discovered an area of Tropicana Field that I had never visited before during the last week of the season and I've been there 100+ times... if you have though, I'll gladly accept that one statement as false) and because you seemingly have a somewhat cynical attitude about the media anyways.
Oh, except, you won't see this because I'm on ignore.
phillyrunner, are you going to be able to make it back to the park when the game resumes? I feel for any of the fans who might not be able to return. That would be incredibly unfortunate, so I hope you get to head back on out and support your team.
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I will be heading on back to game tommorrow night for the the rest of the game. I was not like a few people who claimed they lost or threw their ticket away. Unfortunately for them, they are out of luck.
Just for clarification in my last post, in no way was I looking to end the game after 5 innings just to get a win. I do want a full game. I wasn't 100% clear on the rule change from last year until I looked at it later.
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Commissioner Selig cited rule 4.12(a)(6) in explaining the suspension of Game 5. According to the rule, enacted for the 2007 season, any official game halted with the score tied "shall become a suspended game that must be completed at a future date."
If the game did not get tied would it have continued anyway until the end?
My whole point is that in reality it does not really matter what the rules are because "Bud is God" and will do what he wants. So even if the game was not tied in the sixth he clearly would have suspended the game to be continued later. Because as he says, "it's in the best interest of baseball" and I will agree with him on that. The sixth inning did not have to start for King Bud to declare his edict on the game and I would not have had to endure an extra hour in the cold and rain.
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YES BABY!!! Philadelphia FINALLY gets a major sporting championship for the city after so many years of disappointment. Congratulations to the 2008 World Series Champion Philadelphia Phillies!!!
Philly in the house baby!!!
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25 years of frustration have been erased! What a great ending to a season at the ballpark tonight. There was a charged atmosphere from before the first pitch thoughout the end. For 3 innings everyone stood during the game. The streets were filled with people tonight in numbers I havn't seen in 25 years.
I have to really commend the players who metioned the fanbase on the drive to the championship. I send accolades to Charlie Manuel this year, who at first I really didn't think could get it done. The best signing of the year was Brad Lidge who is the only pitcher that won a World Series with a perfect save record for the year.
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ME, 2....Big shout out to all the Philly faithful that have stuck with their teams all these many years! It doesn't get any better than this! Congrats, and have fun!
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Congratulations to all the Phillies' fans on the board! Enjoy the moment...Bask in the glory! Behave yourselves at the parade...on second thought...GO WILD!! 28 years! WOW! What a wait! It's been worth it.
All the haters can SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And this my dear friends is why a lot of people will never, ever, ever root for any team from the city of "Brotherly Love". Congrats to the Rays on a remarkable season. Go Pirates!
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QUOTE(jay original @ Oct 30 2008, 02:43 PM)
And this my dear friends is why a lot of people will never, ever, ever root for any team from the city of "Brotherly Love". Congrats to the Rays on a remarkable season. Go Pirates!
Yeah... it's kinda like how last night when Mr. Montgomery congratulated the Rays on a great season and the fans booed. I've always been taught to win with class and lose with class... unfortunately it seems like many in the Philly do neither.
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QUOTE(jay original @ Oct 30 2008, 02:43 PM)
And this my dear friends is why a lot of people will never, ever, ever root for any team from the city of "Brotherly Love".
Oh, good. I was worried that some people might not get the message.
Cole Hamels reads a Top Ten list on Letterman tonight. See the list here if you can't watch.
The parade starts at noon tomorrow. The rally will be held at CBP at around 1:45 pm -- but there also will be a crowd at the Linc watching on the big screens. Supposedly there may be player appearances at the Linc as well, but we'll see. That's where I may be. I have a ticket but may just go to Broad Street instead.
It's odd that you have to have a ticket to get in, even though they're free. They didn't do that at past parades. Times have changed, I guess. The tickets were all made available online through Phillies.com. The CBP link went to the Phils' ticketing system (which I never got through the online queue) but the Linc link went to Ticketmaster. What shocked me was that, for once, Ticketmaster didn't charge a single fee.
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QUOTE(Joe in Philly @ Oct 30 2008, 10:26 PM)
It's odd that you have to have a ticket to get in, even though they're free. They didn't do that at past parades. Times have changed, I guess. The tickets were all made available online through Phillies.com. The CBP link went to the Phils' ticketing system (which I never got through the online queue) but the Linc link went to Ticketmaster. What shocked me was that, for once, Ticketmaster didn't charge a single fee.
It's a fantastic, easy way to collect information (name, phone, e-mail, etc) of people who are at least somewhat interested in the product.
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Not to rain on the Philly parade, or anything, but Sarah Palin got booed at a rally in Erie, PA for congratulating the Phillies on their world series victory. Maybe the Phils, in a twisted way, are gonna'help the Dems win PA...
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The parade passed by my office (near the start of the route) about an hour and a half ago. The streets are still packed. It's a sunny day in the 60s so the weather cooperated. There must be at least a million (maybe as many as 2 million, some reports say) people lining Market and Broad Streets and in the Linc and Citizens Bank Park.
It's a fun day here in Philly...and a long time coming.
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went to Ticketmaster. What shocked me was that, for once, Ticketmaster didn't charge a single fee.