I'm watching the top 100 songs of the 80s on VH1 and I know all of them

I can do that with songs from the 90s. I listen to Sirius 9 all the time and I can easily recall nearly every song on that. So, I'll be joining you shortly in feeling old.

Okay,don't take this the wrong way but "Shut up!" Old my ass!

hehe

Notice that I did not say when I'd be joining those ranks. While I do have some premature greying, I don't feel very old at all. Yet! But I'm getting there faster than I expected.

So can I, so you're not that old.

Could they just let one damned song play through, without interruption? I'm sure the washed-up folks have something to say, but can it wait until AFTER the song has played? Thank you. By the way, a few dates with Miss Clairol, and no one has to know the hands of time have been slapping you upside the head. Try that new stuff for grey hair...it rocks!

Unless you're bald!

The urge to bitchslap you is strong.

I can listen to the top 100 from the '70's, and sing along with about 95 of them. And yes, I remember BEFORE MTV, when if you really wanted to see a hot new group, you went to a concert, because they normally opened for someone.

And yes, I also remember being gay as grounds to get a person committed. Given that Canada decriminalized sexual behaviour between consenting adults in 1969, it shows you that I am probably older than you.

I'm 51, and DAMN proud of it. I've survived and prospered.

And quoting a radio ad that plays up here. "I can do things with my body that people half my age would dream of".

I used to know them all and now I only remember a few. How old does that make me?

I probably know the top 100 songs of the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s and maybe even 50s. But that's just because I like that sort of thing.

However, an ADULT woman I work with asked me last week if she could borrow a song from me. She wanted "the soundtrack to that movie where Michael Jackson turns into a werewolf or something".

OK, NOW I'm old.

LXN

You tell em' Grant!! Hope you are staying healthy as well!

The last biopsy was clear. Although the last 2 times I had chemo I threw up so much that I lost about 25 lbs each time. Not a great way to lose weight, but the end result was good.

Now if I could just resist the left over halloween candy. ARGH!!!!!

Either way you are an inspiration! As for candy,I don't think there are too many folks who could resist it. Stay well!

Or she's just un-educated in early MTV. Geez, how can you not know what Thriller is?! I guess I should point out my siblings are all 7 to 14 years older than me, so I was brought up with MTV and all popular music of the 80s.

what was #1 in that countdown? speaking of getting old... i'll be 35 on the 17th.

I'm right behind you there, ausmus11!

Now you make me feel old Illini_fan. I'm an 80's person. I was brought up w/ my sisters 60s & 70s music (I actually love the British invasion of the 60s). Recently I have found myself purchasing music that I grew up w/: Thick As A Brick (Jethro Tull), the Best of Rolling Stones & The Doors, Earth, Wind & Fire, Crosby, Stills, Nash [&Young], etc.

BTW, I have tons of 80s stuff so I've been trying to expand my collection.

Congratulations on your Bar Mitzvah!

Livin' on a Prayer by Bon Jovi - to be clear, though, this was a viewer-voting contest.

Not only did I know all the songs in the countdown (I was a radio station DJ in the 80s), I was shocked at how few were actually from established bands - although U2, REM, Arrowsmith, and other bands with staying power, were on the countdown, a ton of the songs were one-hit wonders. Sort of sad, actually.

As for getting old, my life as a gay man ends in 3 1/2 months, when I turn that age you turn after you turn 39 (I can't even type it!). It makes me really regret not coming out until I was 33 - so I don't want to hear no complaints from anyone under 30 about feeling old.

I just turned 35 myself on October 23rd...must be a good thing with all of us 35ers round here.

Let's not forget the 45ers!!

Huh?! I've got news for you darling, your best years are yet to come as a gay man.

Enjoy the ride (no pun intended).

So, what exactly is the "best before" date for gay men. The gay magazines would suggest that if your over 30-35 you should probably not be seen in public again. In Toronto there was some talk of building a gay retirement home for those over 45. I'm 38 and hubby is 42 and neither of us feel or look ready to pack it in yet.

Yeah! When I officially retire from working then I'll consider a retirement city & home. Until then, no way (Unless I get sick or something to that effect)!

I would love to retire at 45!!

You apparently ARE getting old, CPT, if you've forgotten how to spell "Aerosmith".

Everybody's "best before" date is different. I've seen some gay guys that were pretty much toast by 30, and others going strong at 60.

LXN

Actually spelling wasn't ever my strong suit, and when I was a DJ in college, that band was part of the evil that was "Top 40" radio. WE were progressive, and didn't play that crap. And yes, I realize turning 39+1 is not really that bad, but it is still freaking me out.

Turning 39+1 shouldn't freak you out. Turning into the self-loathing Ted Haggard is more than sufficient reason to freak out!

lol!

I know what you mean.

I went to see my new doctor. I thought he was a year or two older than me, but after looking at his diploma on the wall, I realized that he is at least 3 or 4 years younger than me. That's the first time I ever had a younger physician. I knew that was going to happen, but I didn't realize that it would be that soon.

I don't look my age unless I grow out my goatee-has patches of gray in it or not color my hair

I'm letting my hair grow and I could really notice the gray in it and didn't like it in the least!

I was working the polls in Berkeley yesterday and one of the women who I was working with asked if I was a Cal student

I remember when I had my 1st group of high school students that were born in 1981. When I saw there regis slips I sort of freaked. I went on to to say to them, Do you realize that I was graduating from hs the yr that you were born?! Yikes! That's when I knew that I was dealing w/ a whole new generation of individuals.

I knew that according to the gay community that I was considered old enough to have one foot in the grave and the other foot on a banana peel, was when I was in South Beach on business last January. I went to a gay bar for a beer one night, and a cute young guy was cruising me. I told him that I was very married, and thanked him, but I really wasn't interested. Well, we continued talking, and he told me that he was 23.

JESUS CHRIST. 23? My friends kids are that age. Don't get me wrong, I was flattered that a cute young guy was cruising me, but there's 28 YEARS between us. His PARENTS were still in high school when I graduated university.

my niece is 23

I won't date anyone younger than my little sister, not that I actually get dates

I feel lucky that I look young but I need to get my ever-growing ass back to the gym and soon

I just hit 39 and getting back into shape is not easy, and it's never been easy for me to begin with

I hear you. Yesterday, I celebrated my 27th birthday. I have been feeling at a crossroads lately. My last boyfriend was 23. There is a guy that likes me that is 20. And there two guys that I am talking to that are 31 and 32. I want to establish a rule that i will not date any guy under 25, but what if I meet somebody that is really amazing that is younger than that.

And at school, my students told me that the oldie for the week was a song that came out in 1994. I was like, jeez, I feel old. I was in middle school at that age.

The only way I'd date anyone younger than 40, (assuming I had his lordship's permission) would be
if he was a grunt or an infantryman, who'd just spent 12 month's in Iraq, and needed to get it until he was cross eyed.

It would probably kill me, but what the heck.

I'm definitely not ageist when it comes to dating. I actually had a cute 22 year-old chatting me up in the bar on Sunday...well that was before I told him I was turning 42 the day before Thanksgiving. We went though a series of uh-huh, un-huh, no way, yes way, show me your driver's license, I thought you were maybe 29...I gotta go... (BTW: It was the darkest part of the bar, but not pitch black!)

I would call myself age-cautious. I try not to judge but there are some innate defense mechanisms in place. I will most likely end up getting married to someone around my age but I like to keep my options open.

Oh poor,poor John! XOX

Oh boy! Can we all be saddled with the burdens of your "old age", John? In 1994, I was in my sophomore year of college. Good Lord, you're making me feel old, even though I'm barely 32!

I'm around your age

Yeah, I remember hearing somebody going on about how old he was on his 31st birthday and thinking Hmmm....(I'm 40). People seem to underestimate my age, however. I was talking to one guy recently who remarked that he was "probably too old for me"--he was 42. Also, when I was in Spain someone asked me whether I wouldn't rather go to a bar that catered to a younger crowd. While I often find young men attractive in pictures, in person I tend to be drawn to men about my own age or a little older.

LOL...okay on Saturday wear something low-cut and ummm...uncomplicated.

I think it's too bad that we've trained ourselves as gay men to act like straight women when it comes to aging: meaning all the emphasis is on looks. Straight men thrive and come into their greatest power between 40 and 70 - just look at big business everywhere and you'll see that to be true. Yet we all seem to measure our aging with whether we look like we did in our twenties. In my book, it's all about learning and evolving, and getting through our delayed adolescence -which we deserve since being a teenager with the gay difference is nothing if not hard. I appreciate that I read even more now than I did when I was younger. I appreciate that people who just though I was cute and charmy now actually listen to me (whether they believe me or not). Most of us survived the eighties and the onslaught of AIDS - something not easy to bear...

Okay, off to the gym...

All of this age talk merely shows me that as a community, we have a long, long way to go.

But, I can personally attest to the fact that sex/relationships with older men is NOT, repeat NOT, an experiance that qualifies as torture.

Case in point. Moi, when he was about 20, (this was in the 70's, before Aids) went to a bath house in Ottawa, when home visiting the family (after 4 months in rural Nova Scotia, I was about to go slightly insane).

The first person I met after I went into the room, and lay on my stomach, (if you don't know what that means, ask Bill Mahar) was in his late 40's to early 50's. I was tempted to say "no thanks", but since I was thinking with my little head, and it was a Wed night, I said yes.

OH

MY

GOD.

That man had staying power, talent and a very, very wicked imagination. He taught me things that night that still make me blush. And yes, I never asked his name. All I knew what that he had a New York accent.

Don't write off men 15 - 20 years older than yourselves. Since that day, I never have. My hubby is 11years older than me, and the old ad is true. He's not getting older, he's getting better!!!!!!!!! And I have 26 years of experiance with him to back up my statement.

AAaawwwwwwww....this sounds like a Heart song.