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GymMountainEER
Projected NCAA Teams by Major Conferences Reply

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Big East- 8 teams

1) Pitt
2) Georgetown
3) Marquette
4) Louisville
5) Notre Dame
6)West Virginia
7)Villanova
8)Syracuse

Most likely Out:

Providence
DePaul

ACC

1) UNC
2) Duke
3) UVA
4) Va Tech
5) Maryland
6) Boston College

Bubble:
Georgia Tech

Most likely out:

Florida State
Clemson

Pac-10

1) UCLA
2) Washington State
3) USC
4) Oregon
5) Stanford
6) Arizona

SEC

1) Florida
2) Kentucky
3) Vandy
4) Tennessee




Battling for 1-2 spots:

Georgia, Ole Miss, Alabama

Big 12

1)Kansas
2)Texas A&M 11-2 23-4
3)Texas 10-3 20-7
4)Kansas State 8-5 19-9
5) Texas Tech


Bubble:

Missouri
Oklahoma

Big 10

1) Ohio State
2) Wiscongisn
3) INdiana
4) Illini
5) Michigan State

Bubble:

Purdue

Most likely out:

Michigan

Mountain West

1) Air Force
2) UNLV
3) BYU

Bubble:
San Diego State

Missouri Valley

1) Southern Illinois
2) Creighton
3) Missouri State


Battling for 1 spot:

Bradley & Northern Iowa

Atlantic 10

1) Xavier
2) UMass


WAC

1) Nevada

Bubble:

NMSU

Colonial:

1) VCU
2) Old Dominion

Battling for 1 spot

Drexel and Hofstra



Teams in regardless of what they do in their conference tourney:


WCC

1) Gonzaga


Big South

1) Wintrop

Southern

1) Appy State


MAC

1) Akron

Horizon

1) Butler
Illini_fan
*sees thread by GymMountanEER about Conference comparisons*


*Assumes that the prediction has more Big East Teams than other conferences*

QUOTE
Big East- 8 teams

1) Pitt
2) Georgetown
3) Marquette
4) Louisville
5) Notre Dame
6)West Virginia
7)Villanova
8)Syracuse
rolleyes.gif Shocking.
GymMountainEER
QUOTE(Illini_fan @ Feb 26 2007, 09:23 PM) *

*sees thread by GymMountanEER about Conference comparisons*
*Assumes that the prediction has more Big East Teams than other conferences*

rolleyes.gif Shocking.



Why is that shocking? The Big East has 16 teams which is 4 to 6 more than most other major basketball conferences. Without question, collectively speaking, Big East teams have by far more tradition than any other confernece in America. That being said it would make sense that based on its size and oustanding programs, the Big East should send more teams than any other conference.

ACC will most likely send 6 or 7 teams out of a 12 team conference. That is sending half or more of the conference to the NCAA.

The Big East will probably send half of the conference which is 8 teams. Why should other conference be able to send more than half its conferences and the great tradition and programs of the Big East not be able to in the same capacity?

The Big Ten will send 5 or 6 which is half or more of its conference, yet the Big East is far superior from top to bottom than the Big Ten.

My assesment isn't biased. Its rational and logical.

A bias assesment from me would be the Big East is sending 9 or 10 teams.
Illini_fan
But would you have started this thread if the Big East didn't have the most teams? All I'm saying is the content of this thread was very predictable.
The-Ultimate
QUOTE(Illini_fan @ Feb 26 2007, 10:57 PM) *

But would you have started this thread if the Big East didn't have the most teams? All I'm saying is the content of this thread was very predictable.


It's predictable, but that goes for a lot us. I would think that most bloggers to College Basketball on Outsports have a rationale of the better you're team/conference does, the more you're going to want to talk about it and post things about it.

To respond to what the original post is about, I still think WVU, Notre Dame and Syracuse have some work to do, and they will have their opportunities.

I think the CAA (Drexel, ODU, VCU) and MWC (BYU, San Diego St, Air Force, UNLV) has strong potential to get three - four teams in each conference and not because it's the CAA or MWC but because of the profiles of the afforementioned teams.
The-Ultimate
QUOTE(The-Ultimate @ Feb 26 2007, 11:05 PM) *

To respond to what the original post is about, I still think WVU, Notre Dame and Syracuse have some work to do, and they will have their opportunities.


Darn it, i meant Villanova, not Notre Dame, for what it's worth
Frank Bruno
Lucky for us, there is already footage on YouTube of the Big East's predicted performance in this year's tournament.
WChip
The "Cuse took a big step toward assuring they're in- they'd really have to fall on their face the rest of the way not to make it. I watched the second half- neither team was playing particularly well, but the Syracuse was hot on threes.
Illini_fan
QUOTE(Frank Bruno @ Feb 26 2007, 06:47 PM) *

Lucky for us, there is already footage on YouTube of the Big East's predicted performance in this year's tournament.
The person behind the camera giggling is slightly disturbing. huh.gif


Anyway, I think the Big East will make some noise, but won't be the odds on favorite to get to the Final Four like they have in the past. Then again, that may be a blessing in disguise for the league. Last year some were saying that the Big East was going to get two in the Final Four and that didn't really come to fruition.

BTW, I was just giving you a hard time Moutaineer, I'm just as big of Big Ten homer.
GymMountainEER
QUOTE(Illini_fan @ Feb 27 2007, 03:35 AM) *

The person behind the camera giggling is slightly disturbing. huh.gif
Anyway, I think the Big East will make some noise, but won't be the odds on favorite to get to the Final Four like they have in the past. Then again, that may be a blessing in disguise for the league. Last year some were saying that the Big East was going to get two in the Final Four and that didn't really come to fruition.

BTW, I was just giving you a hard time Moutaineer, I'm just as big of Big Ten homer.



I have a lot of respect forthe Big 10, Big 12, and Pac-10 , and even Mountain West in all sports. Anyone can post away championing those paticular confernece and most likely I would support the post. That being said, I think its well known the two conferences I'not a fan of even though I'm an alumni of one of the schools of those two conferences.

If you can't insult the SEC or ACC, what fun is that?
Buck
I know next to nothing about Basketball. Does the Big East tournament have any effect on the teams selected for the playoffs, or is only regular season play relevant?
GymMountainEER
QUOTE(Buck @ Feb 27 2007, 07:44 AM) *

I know next to nothing about Basketball. Does the Big East tournament have any effect on the teams selected for the playoffs, or is only regular season play relevant?



Actually that's a good question Buck. The Big East tourney will most likely decide the fate of Villanova, WVU, Providence, and possibly DePaul.

With Syracuse's win against Georgetown tonight, they punched their ticket to the NCAA. WVU most likely has to win two more games @ Pitt, Cincy, and Big East T. IF WVU loses to Pitt, it has to win one game in the BET. Providence and DePaul most likely have to win 2-3 games in the BET to make it to the Dance. Villanova is like WVU. THey have to win one game in the BET to punch their ticket.
Buck
Thanks for the information!
Cougar Fan
QUOTE(GymMountainEER @ Feb 27 2007, 04:28 AM) *

I have a lot of respect forthe Big 10, Big 12, and Pac-10 , and even Mountain West in all sports.


awwwwwww wink.gif
BrianK
QUOTE(WChip @ Feb 27 2007, 02:24 AM) *

The "Cuse took a big step toward assuring they're in- they'd really have to fall on their face the rest of the way not to make it. I watched the second half- neither team was playing particularly well, but the Syracuse was hot on threes.



I am not sure I agree with Syracuse being in. The Georgetown win was big, but besides that win and the one earlier at Marquette, they have no other quality wins. They have won 5 straight, but the only big win is against Georgetown and are still 6 - 4 in the last 10 games. The only 2 half way decent teams they played out of conference were losses (Ok St. & Wichita St.) My guess is the Villanove game is a must, and a 1st round exit in the tournament could send them to the NIT.

Villanova at this point is not in either. They had the one big out of conference win against Texas, but that is easily outweighed by losses to Xavier and Drexel (at home).

The Big East teams played mediocre teams out of conference (and rarely left home for any of those games). I think they will be penalized for this. Their record against these teams show that a majority of the Big East are mediocre at best.

Disclaimer: I do not favor any conference over another. Just enjoy college basketball.
The-Ultimate
QUOTE(BrianK @ Feb 28 2007, 02:23 PM) *

I am not sure I agree with Syracuse being in. The Georgetown win was big, but besides that win and the one earlier at Marquette, they have no other quality wins. They have won 5 straight, but the only big win is against Georgetown and are still 6 - 4 in the last 10 games. The only 2 half way decent teams they played out of conference were losses (Ok St. & Wichita St.) My guess is the Villanove game is a must, and a 1st round exit in the tournament could send them to the NIT.

Villanova at this point is not in either. They had the one big out of conference win against Texas, but that is easily outweighed by losses to Xavier and Drexel (at home).



I think Syracuse and Villanova are in a better position than Notre Dame and West Virginia, who are the ones with true weak non-conference schedules (both in the 300s).

Villanova's home losses to Xavier and Drexel aren't pretty but a lot of teams on the bubble have blemishes and RPI alone doesn't get you in with a rank of 21, if the Wildcats can show some strength in their last few games, it still is an impressive season for them. Villanova also has had one of the toughest Big-East schedules (cause Big East has unbalanced scheduling) which may factor in why their conference record isn't as sexy as somebody like a Notre Dame, who hasn't even had to play Pitt this year.

I don't think any of those four teams have accomplished any sort of quota to get in. Regardless of how many bids the Big East receives, i don't think anyone will doubt that their average seeding will be much lower than last year.
WSU Cougars
I'm just gonna do Pac-10 cause that's my conference:

UCLA
Wazzu
Oregon
Stanford
USC
Arizona

NIT:
Poor UW Huskies LOL
NCAA Kid
I wonder which Pac-10 teams will be in the same bracket.
RBear78240
Likewise for Big 12 since that's the conference I know more about:

Kansas
Texas A&M
Texas
Texas Tech (with protest)

In looking at the rest of the conferences and the field of 65 it is going to be a tough year for the Selection Committee. I don't think I remember a year with as much parity as this year's tournament. Yesterday was a reflection of that parity. Many of the Top 25 teams had close games with unranked opponents. Ohio State had a close one with Michigan yesterday. UCLA lost what really was a close one until they got into foul-mania trying to find a way to win. Kansas had a tough game with Texas and Kevin Durant (Player of the Year in my book). And the list goes on.

Today ends Mid-Major week. Now we move in the major conference tourneys. They may have wheel a supercomputer into the conference room for the Selection Committee to crunch out the field this year.
GymMountainEER
Kansas
Texas A&M
Texas
Texas Tech

The Big 12 has 4 teams that could really make some noise in the tourney this year. The Texas-Texas A&M game in Austin last year was perhaps the best basketball game of the year so far. Great game to watch.
theodoresdaddy
If WVU doesn't make the NCAAs, I see them making a good run in the NIT

I rather see them do well in the NIT than one and out in the NCAA but of course the NCAA has more prestige
DCBucky
So .... not that anyone is counting or anything ... but ....

1) Pac Ten -- Six teams in the tourney out of 10 members (.600)

2) ACC -- Seven teams out of 12 (.583)

3) Big Ten -- Six teams out of 11 (.545)

4) SEC -- Five teams out of 12 (.417)

5) Big East -- Six teams out of 16 (.375)

6) Big XII -- Four teams out of 12 (.333)
GymMountainEER
QUOTE(DCBucky @ Mar 14 2007, 04:07 PM) *

So .... not that anyone is counting or anything ... but ....

1) Pac Ten -- Six teams in the tourney out of 10 members (.600)

2) ACC -- Seven teams out of 12 (.583)

3) Big Ten -- Six teams out of 11 (.545)

4) SEC -- Five teams out of 12 (.417)

5) Big East -- Six teams out of 16 (.375)

6) Big XII -- Four teams out of 12 (.333)



Any surprise that the Big 12 and Big East were the only two conferences that didn't have a person on the selection committiee and were the two conferences mostly upset with the selections. Not that anyone noticed or anything. unsure.gif
SteelResolve
Gracious alive.....STOP WHINING !!!

Look at the Conferences by Sagarin Ratings:
1. ACC
2. SEC
3. Pac-10
4. Big 10
5. Big East
6. Big 12

The reason the Big East and Bit 12 got the fewest teams in the NCAA might have something to do with the fact that they are the weakest of the major conferences!!

The ACC's representative on the selection committee was the chair last year when the Big East got 8 teams and the ACC only 4.....how can you claim that he is biased?
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