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Bill W
Your senators should probably hear from you IF YOU EVER WANT TO SPEAK FREELY AGAIN.

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Many lawmakers were stunned by recent press reports, denied but not corrected by the Justice Department, that the FBI has issued as many as 30,000 \"national security letters\" since the law was passed nearly unanimously in 2001. The letters order private and public entities to turn over records and other private data about Americans - and remain silent about it.

In the run-up to a vote later this week on extending controversial provisions of the act, civil liberties and privacy groups released their own research, based largely on documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, that they say signals numerous reporting violations and lax oversight.
- Christian Science Monitor
twin58
If we ever speak freely again, the terrists will have won.

[ December 14, 2005, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: twin58 ]
swiminbuff
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twin58:
If we ever speak freely again, the terrists will have won.
Remember to turn on the tap when you are speaking freely, you never know who is listening.
millerbeach
This is a very sad day in the history of this nation...all courtesy of the Rethuglicans currently running this nation into the ground. You're doing one heck of a job, Bushie!
PennState4Ever
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millerbeach:
This is a very sad day in the history of this nation...all courtesy of the Rethuglicans currently running this nation into the ground. You're doing one heck of a job, Bushie!
Let me introduce you to the facts -- they're an amazing thing.

Yesterday's vote on agreeing to the Conference Report reauthorizating the PATRIOT Act (H.R. 3199) was 251-174 with 9 not voting. Among those 251 voting aye, are 44 DEMOCRATS (18 Republicans voted nay). Without the support of those 44 Democrats, the conference report would have failed.

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 627 (H.R. 3199)

It seems that those people you believe are running the country into the ground are doing it with the help of the Democrats.
millerbeach
That's right Penn, every Democrat in Congress calls me first before casting their vote. I'll just bet you never realized I have that kind of power. Give me a friggin' break. If you can't see that this country is in trouble, you are one of many sheep that is responsible for running this nation into the ground. Grow a pair and open your eyes.
Bill W
PS4E is certainly correct that the Democlicans have aided Bush in his radical aims far too often.
hockeyTom
They would be the ones I would consider to be Repug.-lite, which include the likes of Joe Lieberman in my book.
George Twins fan
Partiot Act renewal fails as only 52 Senators vote in favor of renewal. 60 votes were needed to renew it.

[ December 16, 2005, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: FireMikeTiceNow ]
hockeyTom
Yeah, and guess who is going off on the Dems??? None other than Mr. Scott McClellan, blaming them for all the ills of the world, and this one too. He needs to be slapped with a reality check here! Like hello Scott, what did your administration to regarding the 9/11 recommendations, and the followup report that just came out, with grades that were mostly F's?????
I have to OH THE HYPOCRISY!!!!! rolleyes.gif :
PennState4Ever
Today's Senate vote was on ending debate (cloture), not on the substantive measure. The result may be the same in the end, although I suspect that no Senator of either party will let the Act lapse (even Feingold is not opposed to renewal in principal, but not the version as it appears in the conference report).

For what it's worth, four Republicans backed the filibuster: Chuck Hagel (Neb.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), John Sununu (N.H.) and Larry Craig (Idaho).

Two Democrats voted to end the filibuster: Tim Johnson (S.D.) and Ben Nelson (Neb.). I noted that Rep. Stephanie Herseth (D-SD) voted in favor in the House -- watch for her to take on John Thune in 5 years. She is young, attractive, and importantly, VERY smart.

You can read the conference report to H.R. 3199 on Thomas -- the Library of Congress website.
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