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NoLongerHere
Miller was kinda cute and affable when he was on The Daily Show a few months ago. Good ol' Zell was secretly kinda pissed off, though, huh?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...ush_democrats_2

Democratic Senator Blasts Kerry at Rally

By JEFFREY McMURRAY, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Bush-Cheney campaign Wednesday unleashed its most famous Democratic booster, Georgia Sen. Zell Miller, to make the case that presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) advocates policies inconsistent with some of history's most popular Democratic presidents.

Miller, a Georgian who is the lone Democratic senator to back publicly President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election bid, criticized Kerry in a speech announcing his leadership of a national "Democrats for Bush" effort. He was joined by a handful of lesser-known Democrats, but the campaign said it would release a more comprehensive list in the coming weeks.

Zell's site:
http://miller.senate.gov/

Disclaimer: To be clear, I do NOT support Bush; just thought this was newsworthy/discussion-worthy.
RazorbackTX
I predict "Democrats for Bush" will have about as many members as Log Cabin does.

They can get together and have a joint meeting in a phone booth somewhere.
bobby78751
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RazorbackTX:
I predict \"Democrats for Bush\" will have about as many members as Log Cabin does.

They can get together and have a joint meeting in a phone booth somewhere.
Or better yet, in a closet. smile.gif
hockeyTom
Bingo you guys. Like I am sure this story is going to have legs. Shrub/Cheney are so desperately pathetic. They are trying everything and I mean everything aren't they?
bobby78751
Well, they aren't trying everything because at least Cheney is respecting his daughter's sexual orien...oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. smile.gif
PhillyFan
I think it's so cute when you accuse someone of being gay and hiding in the closet because he doesnt agree with you...
RazorbackTX
I call this meeting of the Democrats for Bush to order....

President Zell Miller.... "present"
VP Zell Miller....."present"
Treasurer Zell Miller...."present"
Secretary Zell Miller..."present"

OK, lets get started..
Skiguy
Zell Miller is a democrat in the same way that Steven Cojacaru is a man...name only
wade n atlanta
Zell Miller is a "DINO". Democrat in name only. I don't care for him one iota. he's done other things to screw up politics in Georgia. I'll see if I can find some of those examples and post them.
bobby78751
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PhillyFan:
I think it's so cute when you accuse someone of being gay and hiding in the closet because he doesnt agree with you...
If you are gay and you are defending this piece of shit president, then, you have some serious issues that you need to work thru.
NoirDore
I remember growing up in Atl in the early '90s and Zell Miller was extremely popular but I can't stand this guy now. What a turncoat!
PhillyFan
Quite funny that when a dem says something you dont like, you become even more mean spirited than well... myself... i'm just waiting for someone to use the word... bacon... how bout skank?
DallasUNC
Zell Miller has simply brought back the old Dixiecrat movement it would seem. I still dont understand why you would stay in one political party if you dont agree with its leadership or how it handles its business. That truly makes no sense whatsoever. He should just become a Republican and get it over with.
bobby78751
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DallasUNC:
He should just become a Republican and get it over with.
Maybe Mr. Miller is taking the stance of the Large Closet Republicans and "working within" to change the Democratic Party. smile.gif I'm sure he'll have about the same amount of success that Mary "The Traitor" Cheney has had with the Republican Party.
shawnq
Zell was once quite fond of Mr. Kerry. This from The Hill:

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Miller has not always been so dismissive of Kerry. At the Georgia Democratic Party’s Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner in 2001, he introduced Kerry as “one of this nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest leaders — and a good friend.”

In remarks reported in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Miller continued, “In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington.” Miller said Kerry “fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so.”
azairforce
Zell Miller is a Democrat by name only. He needs to just switch to his true alligence and become a damn Republican.
RazorbackTX
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PhillyFan:
Quite funny that when a dem says something you dont like, you become even more mean spirited than well... myself... i'm just waiting for someone to use the word... bacon... how bout skank?
Quite funny when rethuglicans say something you dont like, people such as Richard Clarke, Paul O'Neill, automatically they are branded "liars."

Take your blinders off PF, it wont kill ya.
shawnq
Zell has to stay a Democrat because that's the only way he can get his mug on TV. He's the Democrat who hates Democrats. If he switched parties he'd be just another boring Republican senator from the South.
Cadillac
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shawnq:
Zell has to stay a Democrat because that's the only way he can get his mug on TV. He's the Democrat who hates Democrats. If he switched parties he'd be just another boring Republican senator from the South.
BINGO!
fantomas
A good bit on the http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh032604.shtml about this "Democrat's" appearance on Judy Woodruff (and B Man, you think this sunken-mouthed creep is "cute"?--Oh well, each to his own....):

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JUDY WOODRUFF’S TOTAL BULLSHIT: They now call the program Judy Woodruff’s Inside Politics, as if we’re somehow supposed to feel thrilled to see the brilliant CNN ace. But maybe they should call it Judy Woodruff’s Total Bullshit, in honor of what she allows on the show. Yesterday, Woodruff wasted the public’s time with fake-and-phony mountain loudmouth Zell Miller, who was up to familiar old tricks, lying through his teeth on cable. Here’s how the loudmouth mountain fraud finished up yesterday’s interview:

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MILLER: I know this, though, that John Kerry has voted to increase taxes 350 times since he’s been in the United States Senate. That to me looks pretty much like a tax-increaser. And he has said that during his first 100 days he wanted to do that health care initiative. And it would cost $900 billion. And the only way I know where you can get that kind of money is to reach down into the pocketbooks of every man and woman in America.
Amazing, isn’t it? John Kerry has voted to increase taxes 350 times! As we saw on Wednesday, this ludicrous claim by the Bush campaign is built on outright, bald-faced lying (see THE DAILY HOWLER, 3/24/04). There’s simply no other way to put it. The slimy Miller—well, let’s just say it—was lying in America’s face when he made his ludicrous charge. We did get lucky about one thing, though. On Wednesday morning, Michael Kinsley explained the scam in the Washington Post—Judy Woodruff’s hometown paper. The total fakery of Miller’s claim was clear—and yes, Judy Woodruff did read it.
Post: Kinsley debunks \\"350 tax increases\\" claim by W Ltd.

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The documentation on the GOP Web site about Kerry's supposed 350 votes to increase taxes lists only 67 votes \"for higher taxes.\" Most of these are votes against a tax cut, not in favor of a tax increase. The 67 include nine votes listed twice, three listed three times, and two listed four times. The logic seems to be that if a bill contains more than one item (as almost all bills do), it counts as separate votes for or against each item. The Bush list also includes several series of sequentially numbered votes, which are procedural twists on the same bill. And there are votes on the identical issue in different years. The only tax increase on Bush's list (counted twice, but hey . . . ) is Kerry's support for Clinton's 1993 deficit-reduction plan. That's the one that raised rates in the top bracket and led to a decade of such fabulous prosperity that even its most affluent victims ended up better off.

The best way to see the absurdity of saying that Kerry voted for higher taxes 350 times is to apply Bush's madcap logic to Bush himself. Every year, in the president's budget, there is a table called \"Effect of Proposals on Receipts.\" It lists the president's proposed changes in the tax rules and how they will affect government revenue for various periods up to 15 years. Most of Bush's proposals will cost revenue, obviously. But in the four fiscal years between 2002 and 2005, Bush has proposed 63 actual \"revenue enhancers,\" as his father used to call them. This doesn't include, as Bush includes for Kerry, his opposition to any tax cuts (and there have been some, such as Democratic proposals to reduce the payroll tax). Nor does the list seem to include any \"supply-side\" revenue enhancement by magic or growth. These are actual proposals to take more money out of people's pockets and give it to the government.

At Bush's current rate of 16 \"tax increases\" a year, he'd have 320 under his belt if he could stay in the White House for 20 years. Depending on how you figure -- but without wandering beyond Bush himself into the jungles of absurd logic -- this is as many as eight times the number that Bush has managed to pin on Kerry. But isn't it unfair to call, for example, more efficient administration at the IRS a tax increase? And isn't it simply ridiculous to suggest that George W. Bush is more complacent about higher taxes than John Kerry? Yes, it's unfair. It's ridiculous. That's the point.
NoLongerHere
Crazy old man cute, not "I want that man in my bed" cute

He was on John Stewart telling funny anecdotes. Kinda solicited an "Awww, looking at Grampy blowing his gasket over the new Dems. Isn't that cute?"

Know what I mean?
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