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jqueer
Well, it all depends on what the definition of is is.

Was the terrorist attack on the Centennial Olympic games in Atlanta (that would be in 1996, well within the last decade) be considered to be done by a man of Middle Eastern descent? No, sorry, one of the two casualties was a Turk, is that close enough? Or the the other three bombs planted by Eric Rudolf? The most prolific terrorist in American history certainly wasn't from the Middle East. I'm pretty sure the Unabomber was from the Midwest. The second deadliest terrorist attack in the history of the United States was committed a guy named McVey. Doesn't sound very Arabic.

Then there's the question of what a terrorist attack is. I would say the murder of Alan Berg was a terrorist act. I would say the Chicago shooting spree by a member of the Church of the Creator was a terrorist act. I would call the Sacremento murder of a gay couple by the same pair of brothers who burned a synagogue a terrorist act, as was the arson. In fact I can only think of two terrorist actions committed on American soil that weren't committed by white Christian males. But it all depends on how you define terrorism. Ann Coulter seems to define it as violence perpetrated in the name of Islam. Evidently violence perpetrated in the name of Christianinty or the white race is merely violence. Violence she explicitly condones and encourages. (which, of course, is "exageration for effect.")

And it's no fair actually checking my facts, as this is merely opinion and satire. As long as the gist is somehting people agree with me recognize as something approaching the truth, I'm more accurate than Coulter's usual columns.

[ January 30, 2004, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: jqueer ]
TomFord
Jqueer: Airports, security checks, travelers: the topic is terrorist attacks on commercial airplanes, not terrorist attacks in general. Inconvenience for air travelers doesn't extend to the situations you're so eager to find Christian white male culprits for.

According to AC, 100 percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs. Now, the figure may be short of that (knock yourself out verifying it), but we certainly know that it's not elderly white women or handicapped black men who fit the profile.

Hornfan: I'm not familiar with Dave Barry's work.
bobblehead
"According to AC, 100 percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs." (TomFord)

Yeah tell that to the Sikhs, who are neither Arab nor Muslim, yet get harassed daily.

I see the benefits of 'profiling' - but - I also see the problems. (See above).
canmark
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TomFord:
According to AC, 100 percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs.
Where did this stat come from? The Air India bombing (which killed 329 people, mostly Canadians, in 1985), for example, was likely caused by Sikh militants.
TomFord
ironjohn8: Ah, now that's a legitimate counter-argument. Which, if I cared, we could hash out.

Canmark: That example actually provides a response to ironjohn8's comments about Sikhs. As in, good thing our poorly educated security workers often mistake Sikhs for Middle Easterners, eh? Besides, quibbling about whether the figure is 100% or 90% doesn't destroy her point. Now, if the figure were only 10% or something, you could say she's full of shit. But we both know that's not the case.

Anyway, I only wanted to point out how misguided a certain vein of criticism that has her pegged as a right-wing nut job is, not go back and forth about just what type of person is responsible for attacks on commercial flights. (And we're all agreed that it's not elderly white women or handicapped black men, right?)

Most of AC's "hateful" lines are rhetorical flourishes that are meant to hammer home some other point. Quoting them out of context and then attacking her may indicate that you either didn't get the point or that you have an underdeveloped sense of humor. Because, even if you hate her politics, she's wickedly funny. And a masterful prose stylist. Really incredible writer. If I were a teacher, I'd have my students read her columns as examples of the best sort of composition. Clear, effective prose. I find her a real joy to read.

[ January 31, 2004, 07:40 AM: Message edited by: TomFord ]
RazorbackTX
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gmginsfo:

And yes, I love every word Ann Coulter writes and think she's one of the few really original political satirists writing today.   :cool:  
You should get Ann to come speak at your next Log Cabin meeting, would she speak to a audience of 4 or 5 people?
gmginsfo
Good, well thought out post, RZB. Argues from the facts and really makes a point - NOT! Guess you're over your spell in the OS doghouse, eh?

Here's Ann's latest column for those who might be turned away from, if not off by, hearing our next speaker: \"Boobs In The News\"
JC
The woman is so un-original she recycled her own bad joke about the Oklahoma City bombing for 9/11. There's nothing original about thinking everyone who disagrees with you is a traitor to the nation and should be executed. Joseph Stalin thought the same way. No doubt people thought he was a riot until he gained power.
jqueer
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There's one thing in that article I can agree with Ann Coulter about. George W. Bush is not a draft dodger. He's something far worse. He's a soldier who went absent without leave in war time. I do believe people get shot for that.
FeverDog
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[T]hey could have gotten the identical show from National Geographic.
Good point. Why are third-world breasts not sinful, but Western ones are? This racist double standard has always bothered me.

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But now [Democrats] are enflamed at the thought that Bush didn't fight in Vietnam!
Um, no, Miss Thing. We're appalled that W shirked the duties he signed up to do. Got it, honey bunny?

[ February 05, 2004, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: FeverDog ]
Jim Allen
Why are we still discussing this drag queen with an Adams Apple? She's SO 2000. Her 15 minutes is LONG gone, I mean the blogs I go to can't even be bothered to mock her lies any more. If the society she pines for ever really came to pass, she'd be dead in the first wave of purges as a part of the "intellectual elite". Heavy sacrasm on the "intellectual" part of that.

***.
Lksimcoe
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Jim Allen:
Why are we still discussing this drag queen with an Adams Apple?  She's SO 2000.  Her 15 minutes is LONG gone, I mean the blogs I go to can't even be bothered to mock her lies any more.  If the society she pines for ever really came to pass, she'd be dead in the first wave of purges as a part of the \"intellectual elite\".  Heavy sacrasm on the \"intellectual\" part of that.

***.
THANK YOU. You expressed it better and anything I could have written.

And what I find amazing, is that people call her a political satirist.

A satirist, goes on a show and talks about what the articles satires, or what the book satires, but the most important thing is that they acknowledge that they satirize when they write.

That *** doesn't do any of that. All of her articles, tv appearances, books etc, do nothing but back up the fact that she is a prejudiced, knuckle dragging, butt sagging piece of used ass wipe.

But gee. maybe I'm being too harsh on the poor girl, (used VERY VERY loosely)
bobby78751
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Lksimcoe:
That  ***  doesn't do any of that.  All of her articles, tv appearances, books etc, do nothing but back up the fact that she is a prejudiced, knuckle dragging, butt sagging piece of used ass wipe.

But gee.  maybe I'm being too harsh on the poor girl, (used VERY VERY loosely)
No I don't think you are being too hard on Ann, but, I do think you are just insulting those people who are prejudiced, knuckle dragging, butt sagging pieces of used ass wipe. smile.gif
shawnq
Ann Coulter, still one of the most vile people on earth, spits on those who survived and died in NY on 9-11.

From her column in Townhall
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...the savages have declared war, and it's far preferable to fight them in the streets of Baghdad than in the streets of New York (where the residents would immediately surrender).
What in the recent history of NY suggests something like this would happen?
MIB
I'm no fan of this acid-tongue babe wannabe, but I don't think she was referring to the 9/11 victims. I think she was rather referring to NY residents as spineless liberal wimps, or something like that, from her perspective, that is.
gmginsfo
She wasn't, MIB; you read right, and she took heat earlier for her comments on who might have been better lost in 9-11 than those who were. Still, though, I like her acidic wit.
Neptune
Hmm, I'd love to see how long Ann would last in Harlem, Bed-Stuy, the Bronx, or even my birthplace, south Queens. Why do conservative commentators think all of NYC consists only of the liberal softies on the Upper West Side?

[ August 23, 2005, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: Neptune ]
JC
I suspect she'd surrender rather quickly. She runs from cream pies.
dinger
Did no one read Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them? He shows in several instances where this vicious woman has been caught in lie after lie. She just disgusts me, not because she looks like she's been rode hard and put away wet, I'm not that shallow, but because she's mean, hateful, and and would lie to Jesus if given the chance.
MIB
Citing Al Franken is just as bad as citing Coulter. The former is an idiot, the latter...well...it's obvious.
dinger
MIB, you are so wrong. Franken is so on target it's amazing. And he does it with footnotes. And a heart.
MIB
Franken on target? Sorry, the guy's an idiot. Of course, that's my humble opinion.
dinger
Hey listen, if your B grade movie star can be pres, then at least our comedian can write a book.
millerbeach
When I think of Ann, I harken back to my days of high school chemistry. We learned that acid harms the vial it is contained in far more than any substance it is poured upon. She will self-destruct in a matter of time. She is as doomed as the rest of her followers. She would not only lie to Jesus, I would bet money she would also lie to Satan. That will be her undoing.
ung
"NY residents will immediately surrender"????

Is she for freakin' real? I mean... since when is NYC known for having meek and polite residents? It's the city of in-your-face, "you-talkin'-to-me?", "I ain't duckin nuthin" people. and she says that? Bitch! Please!

No wonder Keith Olbermann last night mentioned how she ran away like a little girl from a cream pie screaming and named her "The worst person in the World"

and who said the upper west side is full of liberal softies? have you been to Zabar's and tried to call out an order without grabbing a number? Have you tried to hail a cab and jump in line at Lincoln Center in the rain? Nuthin soft about these liberals baby!

[ August 24, 2005, 05:44 AM: Message edited by: ung ]
RazorbackTX
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gmginsfo:
She wasn't, MIB;  you read right, and she took heat earlier for her comments on who might have been better lost in 9-11 than those who were.  Still, though, I like her acidic wit.
Did you and giraffe women get to catch up at your last Timothy McViegh fan club meeting?
Ms. de Blazer
Coulter reminds me of the character in the fairy tale who, whenever she opened her mouth to speak, frogs and poisonous snakes fell out.
Terry in Oaktown
The story you're referring to, if I remember correctly, was called Toads and Diamonds. The younger sister who helped a good witch was gifted with the ability to have flowers and jewels flow from her mouth. I can't believe I still remember that one. Anyway, isn't Ann Coulter the one who wrote How to talk to Liberals or is that a different author.
millerbeach
Terry, you are correct...it is evil Ann that wrote that book. She can come up and talk to me while I spit in her Communist face.
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