bobby78751
Apr 5 2004, 02:03 PM
In case you haven't heard, John Kerry is the BEST choice gay and lesbian Americans have in this election! A vote against John Kerry is a vote against the gay community. "You're either with us, or you're against us."
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Denver Fan
Apr 5 2004, 03:08 PM
Shame he still doesn't believe gays should marry. That doesn't make a perfect score in my book, but he is the better of the two by far.
PhillyFan
Apr 5 2004, 03:24 PM
Who does the scoring?
They are obviously tilting the scale, no marriage = no 100%
Is this sorta like that award Michael Jackson just got?
[ April 05, 2004, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: PhillyFan ]
bobby78751
Apr 5 2004, 05:07 PM
I guess all of the equality gay couples will get when JFK signs a civil unions bill means nothing to you guys. Whereas with Bush, you get thrown out of the Constitution. I suppose HRC gives Kerry extra points in that gay couples' civil union rights will be the same as hetero married couples' rights. We have to start somewhere guys and civil unions is the RIGHT start...the wrong start is to keep that bastard Bush in office and get us a bigoted Constitutional amendment.
Denver Fan
Apr 5 2004, 05:12 PM
I'm with you bobby, I just don't get the 100% score. That's all, Kerry gets my vote hands down!
fenwayguy
Apr 5 2004, 05:18 PM
HRC's rating is based not on positions proclaimed, but on congressional votes cast.
hockeyTom
Apr 5 2004, 05:21 PM
Agreed. I am not sure how exactly they come up with this score, but the choice couldn't be any clearer. You can continue to live as second class individuals under the Shrub administration or we can continue the fight, knowing that we have a friend in the White House. Like we don't have right now.
araanib
Apr 6 2004, 10:11 AM
Sorry, guys, I'm with PF on this one. Kerry may be the better choice in November, but a man who passionately argues that marriage should be protected from homosexuals cannot, in my book, get a 100%. The HRC rankings are, as someone mentioned, based on votes casted in favor of a group of individual bills. I don't like the HRC, precisely because they put out rankings like this one.
(Imagine this, Senator X votes against a civil unions bill because s/he finds it is an unacceptable compromise; marriage is the only choice in his/her mind. Well, now this poor politician has an 87.5%, barely a B+, on gay issues.)
At any rate, despite the histrionics of some, a vote against John Kerry is NOT a vote against the gay community. I assume that most of us are adults enough not to support a presidential candidate because of his stance on a single wedge issue. A vote FOR Bush may be a vote for decreased civil liberties, bigotry in the Constitution, pre-emptive war, garbled foreign relations, etc., but finding Kerry unpallatable won't label you a gay-hater in my eyes.
I have said this before, who is in the White House is very important, but who is in control of the Congress is twice so. Look at your congressional reps; check out THEIR record. I would take Bush with strong Democrat majorities in both houses over Kerry with strong Republican majorities. Of course, Bush with Repub majorities is by far the worse.
RazorbackTX
Apr 6 2004, 12:20 PM
QUOTE
PhillyFan:
Who does the scoring?
They are obviously tilting the scale, no marriage = no 100%
Is this sorta like that award Michael Jackson just got?
Where does your candidate stand on gay marriage?
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