Didn't Eliot get the memo?

Spitzer "ticking" off blacks generally?

The only black people upset here--as described by the article--are Charlie Rangel, Percy E. Sutton, and maybe Leecia Eve. Your inference is faulty.

The topic description for the thread is at best misleading. As I've said before, try talking to a few more black people about their political views before making stupid and/or outdated generalizations.

[ January 24, 2006, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: Neptune ]

The thread's title is accurate. It was derived from the article itself. Simply put: did Spitzer anger blacks? Answer: yes. End of story.

Your apology is accepted, of course.

There first paragraph of the article has a far better description than the thread title:

"Attorney General Eliot Spitzer has chosen David A. Paterson, a powerful Harlem state senator, to be his running mate in the 2006 governor's race, advisers to Mr. Spitzer said yesterday. But the selection stunned and angered some influential black Democrats, who had favored another candidate and had not been consulted on the choice."

MIB, an analogous "derivation" like the one you made is a thread titled "Bush ticks off whites and Hillary Clinton" and linking an article with Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy getting upset about the Alito nomination. Like I said, an inaccurate and misleading inference.

You want an apology? Try apologizing to Pierre Du Pont for plagiarizing his article before asking me for one.

[ January 24, 2006, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: Neptune ]

In forensics this would be evidence of one's losing a debate, when one brings up irrelevant, extraneous topics.

Case closed.

Yeah well in a court of equity it would be evidence of unclean hands.

[ January 24, 2006, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: Neptune ]

If Eliot Spitzer has chosen David Paterson as his running mate, that is one SERIOUS ticket.

Spitzer is very widely respected himself throughout the state, and has a reputation for uncompromised honesty and integrity.

Patterson is respected as a mover and shaker by both sides of the aisle.

Whoever runs against them will have a very hard time.

I don't see George Pataki as having groomed a successor or his popularity nesc. transfering to anyone else in the party.

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Yeah, Pataki really screwed the Republican Party here. He seems to be much more focussed on testing the waters for a presidential run--traveling to Iowa and South Carolina--than looking after the viability of NY's Republican Party. Which is silly since there's only one New Yorker who has even an outside chance of getting the Republican nomination, and it ain't him.

There's been talk of former Massachusetts governor William Weld running against Spitzer, but I don't think he'll be too popular here. He has enough fiscal mismanagement skeletons to fill attack ads, and he's flip flopped on social issues (like suddenly now being against gay marriage).

Spitzer's main competition is Long Island Democrat Tom Suozzi. No Republicans. And Suozzi's hardly conservative. By picking Patterson, Spitzer has made a preemptive move against Suozzi's options with New York City LG candidates. If Patterson loses, Spitzer is also quite close to upstate LG candidate O'Donnell, so he still wins.

I would venture to predict that Spitzer will win the Black vote in New York City and New York State overwhelmingly. He could even do better than Mrs. Rodham Clinton in this regard.

As for MIB making gross generalizations about African-Americans (or wrong statements, as when he claimed Obama was descended from slaves) and then putting them in thread titles, is anyone surprised? He has Black people on the brain.

(PS: Congressman Rangel *is* Black.)

[ January 24, 2006, 02:21 PM: Message edited by: fantomas ]

Rangel is black? Well, duh!

And your point is...?

I didn't write the grammatically problematic thread title, you did. "N.Y. Atty. General Ticks off Blacks like Congressman Rangel." Rangel IS Black/African-American, so categorically--and of course based on the article that you linked to (mirabile factu!), is one of the foci of the piece--the link should be the conjunction "like" as opposed to "and." Make sure your children learn little things like that, because it'll help them when they get to high school!

Be careful. You don't want to get into a Language Arts battle with me. This will be your only warning.