Senate roll(over) call

House roll(over) call


I really hope the GOP takes the Senate. The Dems deserve it. Including my "unopposed" "yes"-voting Rep. Weiner, the prick.

I notice most of the NY/NJ Democrats who voted "yes" could be predicted by another position they hold: coddling another nation in that area of the globe, also beginning with "I," that doesn't much care if it's in violation of a UN resolution... (No, I'm not drawing an equivalence. Just a parallel worth noting. On to topple Sharon we go, I'm sure!) Really, if I encounter Chuckie Schumer in front of his condo again, that mealymouthed jellyfish may have to call the cops.

Any C-SPAN watchers notice that one of the most impassioned anti-unilateral speeches was given by Biden -- WHO THEN VOTED "YES"!??!

This is tantamount to a political surrender on the part of the congressional Democrats. W. has them on the run politically, that's for sure. For what it's worth, the rep from my district, Jim Clyburn, voted no.

Notable YESes in the Senate: Schumer, Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Carnahan, Feinstein, Daschle!

Notable NOs: Lincoln Chafee (R, but not for long), Wellstone (who didn't cave in this time to electoral politics the way he did on DOMA), Feingold (who stopped his ass-kissing of Republicans now that his reform bill is off the table)

Don't you say anything bad about my Russ Feingold!

Happy to report that BOTH MD Senators voted no, and my new representative, Connie Morella, actuallly went against her party. I know she's a moderate, but this one surprises me.

I'm always shocked when Morella votes with the Republican Party. A YES vote would have been politically unpopular in her district, she's in a tough reelection battle, she's running as the anti-Republican Republican, blah-blah-blah. Her vote is about as surprising as Elton John saying he's gay.

Sorry CPT_Doom -- but Morella ain't gonna be your Congresswoman for long -- she's toast ...

Agreed, Bucky. Much as I want Morella to win for the sake of a GOP majority, I really hope she loses. Latest news, from what I hear, is that the local NOW chapter, which recently gave Morella a "Woman of the Year" award, endorsed her opponent. Serves her right for keeping that kind of company.

My representative is Tom Lantos and he voted for the resolution. He is a Holocaust survivor and ought to know better. I will not be voting for a US House Rep this year.

As for our Senators, Barbara Boxer voted no and Di Fi voted yes. I am disappointed in her vote-- most Calif. politicians are awful, but she has been OK.

m1011, I've heard Lantos on NPR's coverage of the Congressional hearings over the last few days, and I can assure you, he is all for this! He--and others--keep comparing Saddam to Hitler, which I think is just outrageous. It's too bad the new Nobel Laureate in Literature, Imre Kertesz, who also survived the Holocaust, is not in Washington to lecture them for their far-too-easy reference to this incommensurate tragedy.

Hilary Clinton disgusts me. Anyone who calls that chump a liberal really ought to look at her recent record. Opportunist is more like it. The MAIN reason she won was the overwhelming supporter of New York City residents, especially in Brooklyn, the Bronx and Queens, as well as moderate Westchester County. Yet she votes like she's from Suffolk County or upstate New York. I wish she would run for president and kill her political career for good. Schumer obviously had a weak moment. I'm not surprised by Torricelli's vote: was that to hurt Lautenberg? What a creep Torch is.

I'm proud to say that Jim McDermott is my rep. You go, guy! Senator Patty Murray voted No, but Maria Cantwell voted Yes (We now refer to her as Maria "Can't-vote-well".) I sent her an email saying she was a disgrace to her constituents and she could kiss any future campaign contributions from me goodbye. Then I hopped on-line and gave money to Washington State Reps. Inslee, Baird, and Larsen, all of whom are in swing districts and yet voted No. That took guts. (FWIW, Hillary lost my respect with her ass-kissing vote. "It's a terrible resolution and it give the President way too much power, but I'm voting for it!"

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Looking at the Senatorial rolecall, it appears that many of the Democrats who were up for re-election or who want to be president voted yes to save their asses, though some (Levin, Durbin, Wellstone) did vote against it. Harkin even voted for it--insulation against Ganske-gate? My state's (now senior?) ultraliberal multimillionaire senator Jon Corzine came out against this insane resolution, and thankfully voted against it.

Cheers to Lincoln Chafee--Democratic envy must be tough. Switch places with Miller--there'll be no net loss that way.

My recent and current House reps all against this. All in all, I for once feel represented!

[quote]Originally posted by Bill W:

I really hope the GOP takes the Senate. The Dems deserve it. Including my "unopposed" "yes"-voting Rep. Weiner, the prick.

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Bill W, please don't say this--as awful as the Democrats' behavior has been, a Republican Senate led by Trent Lott would be FARRRRR worse!

[quote]Originally posted by Lots-of-us:
I'm proud to say that Jim McDermott is my rep. You go, guy! Senator Patty Murray voted No, but Maria Cantwell voted Yes (We now refer to her as Maria "Can't-vote-well".)

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Hey, we tried to beat her in 2000 and you guys wouldn't let us.

[quote]Originally posted by fantomas:
He--and others--keep comparing Saddam to Hitler, which I think is just outrageous.

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I'm not sure I agree with you, Fantomas. If there is any reason I support this war, it is for the very fact that Saddam has practiced genocide, just as Hitler did. I believe that is the worst crime against humanity, and any world leader who is part of it, in my opinion, should pay for it. The US hasn't been esp. kind to the Kurds either - what with Bush I encouraging them to rise up at the end of the last war, only to leave them to starve to death in refugee camps - but maybe we can make up for that now.

Of course, I still fear how Saddam will retaliate if "backed into a corner".

Clearly, I'm a bit undecided about all this.

Saddam in some ways is as evil as Hitler was, but there is no parallel between the Germany of the 1930s and current Iraq. Germany was intent on taking over the entire world. Iraq hasn't threatened it's neighbors since the Gulf War. Even the CIA says that he's not an imminent threat to the US. The guy wants to stay in power and will lash out only if he sees that's about to be taken away from him - at that point he'll have nothing to lose.