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George Twins fan
Talk about ridiculous! You think this has anything to do with the Bucs opening up a big old can of whupass on the Silver and Black? From ESPN.com:

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The Oakland Raiders have asked a judge to prevent the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Carolina Panthers from wearing their uniforms for games in California because they violate the Raiders' trademark rights.

The Raiders claim Tampa Bay's pirate logo is too similar to Oakland's. And the Raiders object to the Panthers' uniforms because two colors -- silver and black -- match those of the Raiders.

NFL spokesman Joe Browne said the issue is one of a handful that remain from a 1996 suit by the Raiders listing multiple grievances against the league. Some were transferred to courts in Los Angeles, where another Raiders case against the league is being fought.

Others already have been dismissed by Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge John Herlihy. He did not rule Tuesday on the Raiders' efforts to seek a court order against the NFL banning those uniforms in California.

Papers filed by the Raiders in the San Jose case say the Buccaneers' logo \"is likely to dilute the distinctive quality of the Raiders' mark, thereby lessening its capacity to identify the Raiders and causing irreparable harm that cannot adequately be compensated by an award of damages.''

NFL attorneys argued there will always be overlap among logos and colors. One of them, James Hunt, said \"Michigan could say any uniforms featuring predatory cats'' would be prohibited in that state, given that the Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars also have such animals in their logos.

Herlihy seemed sympathetic to the NFL's position.

If California tells Tampa Bay to wear a new uniform for games here, he said, then Florida might say \"when the Raiders come to Florida, get that logo off your uniform,'' Herlihy said, suggesting the Raiders might \"put a daisy on your uniform'' as an alternative to their pirate.

The Panthers had no comment on the suit.
DCBucky
That's foolish -- plus I think the old Buc swashbuckling pirate looks much more like the Raider than the new skull-and-crossbones one!

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MSUBobcat
I guess the only way to deal with this conflict would be to force the Buc's to all play in the nude then. wink
Jim Allen
So, Al Davis is completely insane.

Right?
Theo
I'm convinced Al Davis has lost what little mind he had left. WTF does he expect them to wear if ever they play in Oakland? A 3rd uniform designed specifically for away games at Network Associates? Any Raider fan here care to come to Al's defense and explain?
Charlie in the Trees
I guess the Raiders will have to wear generic uniforms whenever they play in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, since their pirate logo is a blatant copyright infringement of baseball's Pittsburgh Pirates:

Pittsburgh logo circa 1971: IPB Image
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Copyright infringement! Copyright infringement! The Pittsburgh Pirate mascot goes back over 100 years. The Raiders? About 40. And they're using the color black. Pittsburgh owns the right to use that color with a pirate-influenced logo.

(Actually, I always thought that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers original orange-and-red pirate logo was a fey variant of the Pittsburgh Pirate. But the Tampa Bay Bucs aren't suing anybody over this, so I'll leave them be.)

[ April 18, 2003, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: Charlie in the Trees ]
RCKSoniK
What about when the Saskatchewan Roughriders visit the Ottawa Rough Riders? Should they have to change their name? :confused: eek!
Marc
Actually 34ra, the Ottawa Rough Riders ceased to exist after the 1996 season due to financial problems and for the next six years there was no CFL team in the capital. However a new team, the Ottawa Renegades, emerged in 2002. The Saskatchewan team is still the Roughriders. I always thought it was kind of dumb to have two teams with the same name, especially in a league that had only nine teams to begin with! Anyway, it's nice to see a comment from south of the border about our league...it doesn't get mentioned much in this forum, except around Grey Cup time.
Herr Tiggee
I have long stood in the camp of "Al is nuts!"

Nobody owns a color scheme.
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