I know this is superficial, but of all the Democrat candidates for President, who do you think is HOT? I kind of like Howard Dean. He seems like a beefy guy who is not in bad shape for a man his age. Wesley Clark is also a sexy man, as well as Edwards.

They don't do much for me, but I do think that several are attractive men in general: Edwards and Clark are quite handsome, and Dean's okay. But he's also short, sort of goofy, and has no lips. But to tell the truth, they could ALL look like the bottom of Dennis Kucinich's left foot, and I'd vote for them over W, who is not only not attractive, but a dangerous character. Outside of Kennedy, Clinton, and Reagan perhaps when he was young,--well, we haven't had too many attractive presidents, but thankfully the best ones (Washington, Lincoln, TR, FDR, etc.) weren't chosen for this attribute, but for others.

[ November 25, 2003, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: fantomas ]

Yes Fantomas, you are indeed right about Wesley Clark. I am glad you agree. At that "Rock The Vote" debate on MTV, I still remember his nipples were popping through the fabric of that tight black turtleneck shirt.

I'm kinda partial to Al Sharpton. Seriously, they could be misinterpreted as Redumblicans...there isn't a Bill Clinton in the bunch.

None of these guys float my boat - well, maybe Edwards if the lights are off.

In his 60 Minutes II interview with Dan Rather last week General Clark talked about how he liked to stay in shape. They showed the General in a black speedo diving into a pool and doing some laps. They also showed him doing push-ups. He looked pretty good from what I could tell.

Howard Dean has let himself go physically--he probably doesn't go skiing much any more!--but in his day, he was a babe. No lips to speak of? Perfect. Pointy nose? Check. Chimpmunk cheeks? Excellent.


[ November 26, 2003, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Jim Allen ]

Clinton? Maybe before he got fat from all those double-cheeseburgers. Don't forget Teddy Roosevelt. USGrant was pretty manly too, especially if you like daddy types.

None of the current crop does anything for me. Most presidential candidates are older men, though, so it's not a surprise.

Manly has nothing to do with it; Teddy Roosevelt simply wasn't very attractive in any of the photos or paintings I've seen of him, younger or older. Barrel-chested, squint-eyed, balding, and with small glasses to boot. He was a damned good politician, mind you, but not a hottie in my book.

Franklin Roosevelt was easier on the eyes by a long shot (actually, he was handsome as a young man). Well, above the crutches. (I think he's one of the greatest as presidents go.) Washington (from the paintings and engravings), Jackson (from the paintings and engravings), Lincoln (captured in photographs), were all pretty homely. So it goes. Maybe it's best not too have a president who's too hot, though I would have liked to see JFK Jr. leading us; he was at least as smart as Bush, and a hell of a lot more humane and handsome.

Clinton wasn't and isn't too bad looking, really; he has a large nose, but overall he's not so bad. Kennedy was really a rarity; Edwards is about as close as we'll get to that level of attractiveness for a while, though Kennedy didn't come off as fake, and he was also glamorous (another form of beauty), which I don't think one can say is the case for any of our recent presidential candidates of any party, though I think John Kerry would like to give this (that is, when he's not straining to be a "regular guy.")