I saw this article on AOL today and could not help but think of Hoover in the FBI. It seems to me, IMHO, that rights are being infringed upon. The same Shrub that says he is glad to see protests in England because it shows freedon, may very well be behind the investigation of those that chose to oppose the war in Iraq here on US soil. There have been reports of oganizers being placed on "no fly" lists. I was amazed reading the article, how many terror related terms were used to describe the anti-war protestors, hmmmm.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.ad...7&_mpc=news%2e6

WASHINGTON (Nov. 22) -- The Federal Bureau of Investigation has collected extensive information on the tactics, training and organization of antiwar demonstrators and has advised local law enforcement officials to report any suspicious activity at protests to its counterterrorism squads, according to interviews and a confidential bureau memorandum.

The memorandum, which the bureau sent to local law enforcement agencies last month in advance of antiwar demonstrations in Washington and San Francisco, detailed how protesters have sometimes used "training camps" to rehearse for demonstrations, the Internet to raise money and gas masks to defend against tear gas. The memorandum analyzed lawful activities like recruiting demonstrators, as well as illegal activities like using fake documentation to get into a secured site.


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F.B.I. officials said in interviews that the intelligence-gathering effort was aimed at identifying anarchists and "extremist elements" plotting violence, not at monitoring the political speech of law-abiding protesters.

The initiative has won the support of some local police, who view it as a critical way to maintain order at large-scale demonstrations. Indeed, some law enforcement officials said they believed the F.B.I.'s approach had helped to ensure that nationwide antiwar demonstrations in recent months, drawing hundreds of thousands of protesters, remained largely free of violence and disruption.

But some civil rights advocates and legal scholars said the monitoring program could signal a return to the abuses of the 1960's and 1970's, when J. Edgar Hoover was the F.B.I. director and agents routinely spied on political protesters like the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

"The F.B.I. is dangerously targeting Americans who are engaged in nothing more than lawful protest and dissent," said Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union. "The line between terrorism and legitimate civil disobedience is blurred, and I have a serious concern about whether we're going back to the days of Hoover."

[ November 23, 2003, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: wade n atlanta ]

F.B.I. Scrutinizes Antiwar Rallies

Same thing, published in the New York Times.

You know, when I saw the subject line, I thought it was referring to Herbert Hoover.

Nice to know that the FBI has the war on terror so well in hand that it can spend so much time on the real enemy.

[ November 23, 2003, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]

W has brought us Herbert Hoover again, with his net job loss in 3 years.

Back to J. Edgar Hoover, why is the FBI is once again misplacing its focus by concentrating on anti-war protesters. They did this during George H. W. Bush's presidency when they focused on ACT-UP! It's just idiotic. They should be training their resources on two different groups that have caused the two worst tragedies in the last 20 years, and that they screwed up royally in not catching IN ADVANCE, even though in both cases they had clues and pointers: Al Qaeda fanatics and supporters; and extreme right-wing fanatics, like the people behind the Oklahoma City bombing.

What does W say? I'm sure he's not complaining. The FBI are even "freer" now to investigate Americans, aren't they?

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[ November 23, 2003, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: twin58 ]

Allegedly, when J. Edgar finally ended his evil existence on this earthly plane, Richard Nixon exclaimed "Jesus Christ! That cocksucker!". Um, he meant Hoover, not Jesus, BTW.

I saw this from the Des Moines Register "Famous Iowans" about Hoover's "friend" Clyde Tolson: Translation: They. were. lovers.

J. Edgar and Clyde:


[ November 24, 2003, 11:34 AM: Message edited by: Jim Allen ]