Here is your daily dose of FEAR. I guess when you have nothing else to run on, the next best thing to do is scare the crap out of people.
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The GOP actually started this in the wake of the Madrid train bombings. Karen Hughes went on all three morning news programs and practically said that if terrorists strike here before election day and Bush is voted out of office that it would be a victory for terror. According to the GOP, holding Bush accountable for a subsequent terror attack would be siding with the enemy and, therefore, akin to treason. Such patriots these Republicans.
Well we all know a terra attack would never happen on the Cheney/Chimp watch. 
They are so desparate they have stooped to new lows. How pathetic.
I'm a registered independent. Not a Bush supporter, not a Kerry supporter. But this is sickening. To me it is reminiscent of Falwell blaming feminists, gays, teaching evolution and separation of church and state for 9/11. If Kerry is elected and heaven forbid there is another attack in January is that the fault of the American people? The population is to blame? Excuse me, but doesn't that sound like "she deserved to be raped"?
Well, Ms. de B., there you go again. Making sense 'n' all that. wink
I'm not surprised by anything that comes out of Cheneys or Bushs mouth. What a pair, how can people actually vote for these 2??????
So let me see if I get this straight.
If a terrorist attack happens before the election, we should reelect Bush because otherwise the terrorists "win". If a terrorist attack does not happen before the election, we should reelect Bush because he's done so much to protect us from terrorism.
Makes me dizzy . . . I feel like I'm choking on a pretzel. eek!
If a terrorist attack happens before the election, we should reelect Bush because otherwise the terrorists "win". If a terrorist attack does not happen before the election, we should reelect Bush because he's done so much to protect us from terrorism.
Makes me dizzy . . . I feel like I'm choking on a pretzel. eek!
Perhaps, just perhaps, a statement this horrendous and this obvious will help shake many voters out of their haze.
As if America's been safer since 9/11 with this administration. Ports and nuclear plants aren't adequately protected but Halliburton's profits sure are...We've been under some kind of alert every single day for three years, Washington D.C. is under constant watch for terrorists in their midst even after spending billions of taxpayer's dollars, and yet for some unknown reason, Cheney suggests things are better under their watch.
Pray for some kind of mass awakening..or at least a few thousand votes worth.
As if America's been safer since 9/11 with this administration. Ports and nuclear plants aren't adequately protected but Halliburton's profits sure are...We've been under some kind of alert every single day for three years, Washington D.C. is under constant watch for terrorists in their midst even after spending billions of taxpayer's dollars, and yet for some unknown reason, Cheney suggests things are better under their watch.
Pray for some kind of mass awakening..or at least a few thousand votes worth.
I'm more inclined to think re-electing Bush means we'll get hit again. After 9/11 we had the support of virtually the entire world, even most Middle Eastern states. Since he led the invasion of Iraq we have alienated some of our staunchest allies in Europe and North America. A Kerry win would show the world that not all Americans still think we live in the Wild West and can solve all our problems with a gunfight
I'm inclined to agree with BillyC. The Russians have no idea how the terrorists who attacked the school in Ossetia were able to train and plan without a safe host country harboring them. They don't have an "Iraq" to attack - or at least not yet. Israel has not stopped Hamas despite draconian measures. Both Russsia and Israel have more experience with domestic terrorism and their leaders have greater leeway to use violence. Neither has succeeded. Should we continue to limit our answer to terror to a military option only, we are in danger of losing in this conflict.
Doesn't make a difference either way. Any group who wants to attack the US for US imperialism or whatever will do so regardless of who wins. Al Queda isn't going to fold because John Forbes Kerry gets elected. And Dick Cheney, try as he might, can't wipe them out altogether.
Strikes me as irresponsible talk for someone who was always presented to us as the sober, experienced head at the helm.
The weird thing about a Kerry win is that it's not hard to imagine that there will be some kind of retaliatory attack within the US for Iraq. And if it takes years for this to come about, it will be on his watch. And then he'll be...oh, nevermind.
Strikes me as irresponsible talk for someone who was always presented to us as the sober, experienced head at the helm.
The weird thing about a Kerry win is that it's not hard to imagine that there will be some kind of retaliatory attack within the US for Iraq. And if it takes years for this to come about, it will be on his watch. And then he'll be...oh, nevermind.
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Ms. de Blazer:
The population is to blame? Excuse me, but doesn't that sound like \"she deserved to be raped\"?
Of course it does ... but consider the source. The population is to blame? Excuse me, but doesn't that sound like \"she deserved to be raped\"?
Colin Powell, 2004: Terror has gone down, we're safer.
Colin Powell, 2004: Oops, we were wrong, terror has gone up.
BTW, Maybe Cheney is planning his own attack if Kerry is elected. I mean, did anyone ever figure out who sent those anthrax spores to the Democrats and the National Enquirer?
BTW2, why isn't there more discussion of ASS-croft's problems in prosecuting all these *high-profile* terrorists the CIA and/or FBI and/or Justice have identified? They had to let the two in Detroit off, and several folks from a mosque in Albany who were highly touted were also later left off. Moussaoui STILL hasn't been prosecuted...they're yanking everyone's chain, people!
Meanwhile, no Osama, no Zawahiri, no Mullah Omar...who were behind 9/11!
Colin Powell, 2004: Oops, we were wrong, terror has gone up.
BTW, Maybe Cheney is planning his own attack if Kerry is elected. I mean, did anyone ever figure out who sent those anthrax spores to the Democrats and the National Enquirer?
BTW2, why isn't there more discussion of ASS-croft's problems in prosecuting all these *high-profile* terrorists the CIA and/or FBI and/or Justice have identified? They had to let the two in Detroit off, and several folks from a mosque in Albany who were highly touted were also later left off. Moussaoui STILL hasn't been prosecuted...they're yanking everyone's chain, people!
Meanwhile, no Osama, no Zawahiri, no Mullah Omar...who were behind 9/11!
And here's the link along with John Edwards' reaction.
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TomFord:
Strikes me as irresponsible talk for someone who was always presented to us as the sober, experienced head at the helm.
Pardon me, have you heard anything our Vice President had to say in the past four years? He's a loose cannon and that's why he's there. To shoot off in ways the president can't.
Strikes me as irresponsible talk for someone who was always presented to us as the sober, experienced head at the helm.
Remember Cheney is the one that said we would be greeted as liberators in iraq, and that the cost of the war in Iraq should not be any more than a billion dollars. Yeah, right Dick.
It seems to me that all Cheney did was make overt what has been the subtext of all the simplistic--and ignorant--comments the Bush campaign has made regarding Kerry and possible terrorist attacks. What I find particularly sad is that there are a number of voters who have bought into this crap & will continue to do so. And no one should hold his breath waiting for Cheney to apologize for his scare tactics; after all, following his "f**k you" to Leahy on the Senate floor, Cheney went on Fox News (the house organ of this White House) and cockily added that Leahy deserved it.
Cheney's scum. He's always been scum & he'll always be scum.
~Adam
Cheney's scum. He's always been scum & he'll always be scum.
~Adam
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fantomas:
I mean, did anyone ever figure out who sent those anthrax spores to the Democrats and the National Enquirer?
That probably should not be taken lightly. When I've said that we probably will have to worry more about domestic terror than outside terror, that is what I had in mind. We have technology to detect and dissuade exterior threats, but the interior ones from technically savvy terrorists are almost indefensible. Witness Russia's event.
I mean, did anyone ever figure out who sent those anthrax spores to the Democrats and the National Enquirer?
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azairforce:
I'm not surprised by anything that comes out of Cheneys or Bushs mouth. What a pair, how can people actually vote for these 2??????
They don't really need many votes as long as they harrass innocent minorities in Florida and drive them away from the polls.I'm not surprised by anything that comes out of Cheneys or Bushs mouth. What a pair, how can people actually vote for these 2??????
Also, fear can make a lot of rational people do stupid, irrational things.
They can't fool Alex Jones.
Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11
Alex Jones is on now, 10:15 EDT, 3210 kHz.
Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11
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Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson | September 8 2004
For almost three years since 9/11 independent researchers have stockpiled individual smoking guns which prove that the official version of events was not only a lie but operationally impossible.
However, no single smoking gun has yet been forwarded to explain why air defenses categorically reversed Standard Operating Procedure and failed to respond to hijacked jetliners.
Until now.
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Now that we have established how NORAD were confused, delayed and distracted by the numerous wargames, the next question to ask is who if anyone was aware of which planes were 'real world' and which planes were 'exercise'? The answer to this question will provide us with the name of the individual who ran the operatonal execution of the 9/11 attack.
Dick Cheney.
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Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as Flight 77 approached Washington, D.C. On May 23, 2003 in front of the 9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta testified:
\"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, \"The plane is 50 miles out.\" \"The plane is 30 miles out.\" And when it got down to \"the plane is 10 miles out,\" the young man also said to the Vice President, \"Do the orders still stand?\" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, \"Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?\"
As the plane in question hit the Pentagon, what else can we conclude but that the 'order' was not to shoot down the aircraft and to let it find its target.
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(turning on the shortwave radio)For almost three years since 9/11 independent researchers have stockpiled individual smoking guns which prove that the official version of events was not only a lie but operationally impossible.
However, no single smoking gun has yet been forwarded to explain why air defenses categorically reversed Standard Operating Procedure and failed to respond to hijacked jetliners.
Until now.
....
Now that we have established how NORAD were confused, delayed and distracted by the numerous wargames, the next question to ask is who if anyone was aware of which planes were 'real world' and which planes were 'exercise'? The answer to this question will provide us with the name of the individual who ran the operatonal execution of the 9/11 attack.
Dick Cheney.
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Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as Flight 77 approached Washington, D.C. On May 23, 2003 in front of the 9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta testified:
\"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, \"The plane is 50 miles out.\" \"The plane is 30 miles out.\" And when it got down to \"the plane is 10 miles out,\" the young man also said to the Vice President, \"Do the orders still stand?\" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, \"Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?\"
As the plane in question hit the Pentagon, what else can we conclude but that the 'order' was not to shoot down the aircraft and to let it find its target.
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Alex Jones is on now, 10:15 EDT, 3210 kHz.
In his new book Intelligence Matters Senator Bob
Graham of Florida, former head of the Senate Intelligence Committee accusses the Bush administration of covering up links between the Saudi Government and an Al Qeada network still operating in the US. He has long warned of these things. Now he details the roadblocks to him, other committee members and us - the voter.
Graham of Florida, former head of the Senate Intelligence Committee accusses the Bush administration of covering up links between the Saudi Government and an Al Qeada network still operating in the US. He has long warned of these things. Now he details the roadblocks to him, other committee members and us - the voter.
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twin58:
They can't fool Alex Jones.
You might want to think twice about quoting this guy's site as a source. He also claims that \"Many of the named 9/11 'suicide hijackers' are still alive\" among other things. They can't fool Alex Jones.
I agree that Cheney's scum, but the "black helicopters" crowd has its own credibility issues.
I'll stop listening to Alex Jones when they pry my cold, dead fingers from my shortwave radio.
Alex Jones is my favorite shortwave radio conspiracy theorist. If ever you want to know what the Bohemian Grove, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger, Skull and Bones types are up to, tune in Alex Jones. No one does a better job of covering the implantable microchip story.
The planes that hit the World Trade Center were guided by remote contol? Check.
The so-called hijackers are in fact alive and well? Check.
There was no plane that hit the Pentagon? Check.
(Edited to add: oh, wait; I guess there was a plane that hit the Pentagon. I mean, Cheney ordered the strike. Clearly, some other SW radio consipracy theorist is backing the "no plane hit the Pentagon" theory.)
9-11 was planned by the New World Order? Check.
Until you've listened to Alex Jones, you don't know what a true believer really is. If they ever take him off the air, I'll have to put up my shortwave radios for sale. There'll be no more reason to listen to them.
The show is just a riot.
[ September 09, 2004, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: twin58 ]
Alex Jones is my favorite shortwave radio conspiracy theorist. If ever you want to know what the Bohemian Grove, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger, Skull and Bones types are up to, tune in Alex Jones. No one does a better job of covering the implantable microchip story.
The planes that hit the World Trade Center were guided by remote contol? Check.
The so-called hijackers are in fact alive and well? Check.
There was no plane that hit the Pentagon? Check.
(Edited to add: oh, wait; I guess there was a plane that hit the Pentagon. I mean, Cheney ordered the strike. Clearly, some other SW radio consipracy theorist is backing the "no plane hit the Pentagon" theory.)
9-11 was planned by the New World Order? Check.
Until you've listened to Alex Jones, you don't know what a true believer really is. If they ever take him off the air, I'll have to put up my shortwave radios for sale. There'll be no more reason to listen to them.
The show is just a riot.
[ September 09, 2004, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: twin58 ]
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twin58:
Until you've listened to Alex Jones, you don't know what a true believer really is.
I've had enough of those to last a lifetime (or should I say an eternity?). Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll pass. eek!Until you've listened to Alex Jones, you don't know what a true believer really is.
[ September 09, 2004, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: danimal ]
Perhaps what the conspiracy theorists and CIA critics do not take into account is the tremendous POL (power of laziness) effect in undercover work.
Inherently unregulated or poorly regulated most of the time, it is no surprised that the organization is riddled with excesses and incompetence. It would be more surprising if it were not.
Splitting would only help if secrecy is abolished.
[ September 10, 2004, 07:13 AM: Message edited by: sportinlife ]
Inherently unregulated or poorly regulated most of the time, it is no surprised that the organization is riddled with excesses and incompetence. It would be more surprising if it were not.
Splitting would only help if secrecy is abolished.
[ September 10, 2004, 07:13 AM: Message edited by: sportinlife ]
According to CNN, Cheney is now "clarifying" what he said the other day. He now says the nation must be prepared for another attack no matter who is elected . Should have said exactly this the other day Dick. :mad:
[ September 10, 2004, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: puckman1 ]
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puckman1:
According to CNN, Cheney is now \"clarifying\" what he said the other day. He now says the nation must be prepared for another attack no matter who is elected . Should have said exactly this the other day Dick. :mad:
But he's once again saying there were direct ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq--despite the fact the the bipartisan Senate commission refuted that particular claim. He'll say anything to scare people into voting for Bush.According to CNN, Cheney is now \"clarifying\" what he said the other day. He now says the nation must be prepared for another attack
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~Adam
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