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PhillyFan
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Tim:



Springsteen
I walked the city streets, till my legs.. felt like stone.... ohh ohhhh ohhhhh on the streets of philadelphia... mmmm mmmm mmmmm

ON a side note, while the dixi chics were out of the country... pork chop sales went down 25%.. Upon returning to the states, they INCREASED 33%. I'm still checking on GRAVY sales, but those numbers arent in yet. Well check natalie and the scale for confirmation.
fantomas
From Good Old Counterpunch:

Attacks on Dixie Chicks orchestrated by GOP

Hmm--seems Clear Channel has pending business in Washington and the GOP wanted to spank these gals for their outspokenness and upholding of basic US principles.
PhillyFan
Sounds like something the New York Times would make up... i mean legit news story they would print.
charliecstl
Here in St. Louis, the concert was sold out and the crowd gave them a standing ovation when they came out on stage. There were no protesters and no hecklers. It was very nice to see.
fantomas
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PhillyFan:
Sounds like something the New York Times would make up... i mean legit news story they would print.
Sorry, not from the NY Times, and it's true, unlike anything that comes out of Liarbush's mouth.
HornFan
I just got back from 5 days in Nashville. Bought my Dixie Chicks "Home" CD while I was in town and it's some goooooooood music. biggrin.gif
bluebird48234
Yeah, I think they are...VERY good.

Great show, HornFan!
copman
I think most people are over their DUMB comments...I know I am !
RazorbackTX
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copman:
I think most people are over their DUMB comments...I know I am !
Me too, Im over Bush's dumb comments also.

First, let me make it very clear, poor people aren't necessarily killers. Just because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill.
May 19, 2003
fantomas
Thanks for that, Raze. It's interesting, Copman, that you label dissent "dumb" comments. Are comments only "smart" if they agree with the ruling powers? In fact, the Dixie Chicks' speaking out was just the opposite of "dumb" (the word means "mute," you know), and they have continued to display dissent and resistance to the leader-cult mindset that has gripped parts of this nation.
PhillyFan
Too bad the little girl is only big enough to speak up when outside the country... then crawl back to the ameircan public when she returns to the country.

And YES, most of us in this country thought her comments were "dumb".
copman
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fantomas:
It's interesting, Copman, that you label dissent \"dumb\" comments. In fact, the Dixie Chicks' speaking out was just the opposite of \"dumb\" (the word means \"mute,\" you know), and they have continued to display dissent and resistance to the leader-cult mindset that has gripped parts of this nation.
I call it dumb because it's not the smartest way to get your point across ( IN MY OPINION) to say in a foreign country that you are "ashamed of our president" and then to whine that you are being persecuted when people don't agree with that comment. A smarter appproach would have been (IMHO-of course ) to have chosen a better place & time & tell what their opposition to President Bush's policies were. (At least if they wanted to make a difference or to have their comments register as intelligent debate, not as an off handed insult thrown out to a foreign audience.).....Also "leader cult mind set"?? If that is what you call liking a president or any politician then I think you can find examples of that in BOTH parties...AND basically one of the reasonsd I posted my original comment was that I felt that what was said has passed the statute of limitations and its time to move on . eek!

[ May 29, 2003, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: copman ]
Munson Man
Very, very well put, Copman. I'm amused that your opinion is immediately dismissed as being wrong because it doesn't jibe with the pompous nonsense spouted by the previous poster. And kudos to you for not taking the bait on the condescending "it means dumb, you know" comment. For the record, "dumb" is in the dictionary as "US colloquialism: stupid," which is the perfect word for the Dixie Chick's comments.
fantomas
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Munson Man:
Very, very well put, Copman. I'm amused that your opinion is immediately dismissed as being wrong because it doesn't jibe with the pompous nonsense spouted by the previous poster. And kudos to you for not taking the bait on the condescending \"it means dumb, you know\" comment. For the record, \"dumb\" is in the dictionary as \"US colloquialism: stupid,\" which is the perfect word for the Dixie Chick's comments.
Pompous nonsense? Where the hell do you get off? Are you unaware of what IRONY means or would you like that defined too?

The woman was embarrassed by the idiot in office. Whether she expresses in the US or overseas, it's her right. Just as it's the right of people to protest her or not listen to her. But her comment wasn't "dumb."

From Merriam-Webster Dictionary, FYI:

Main Entry: 1dumb
Pronunciation: 'd&m
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German tumb mute
Date: before 12th century
1 : lacking the power of speech <deaf and dumb from birth> <dumb animals>
2 : temporarily unable to speak (as from shock or astonishment) <struck dumb with fear>
3 : not expressed in uttered words <dumb grief>
4 : SILENT; also : TACITURN
5 : lacking some usual attribute or accompaniment; especially : having no means of self-propulsion <dumb barge>
6 a : markedly lacking in intelligence : STUPID b : showing a lack of intelligence c : having little or no meaning -- sometimes used in the phrase dumb luck
7 : not having the capability to process data <a dumb terminal> -- compare INTELLIGENT 3a
synonym see STUPID
- dumb·ly /'d&m-lE/ adverb
- dumb·ness noun
usage There is evidence that, when applied to persons who cannot speak, dumb has come to be considered offensive.
bluebird48234
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fantomas:
The woman was embarrassed by the idiot in office. Whether she expresses in the US or overseas, it's her right. Just as it's the right of people to protest her or not listen to her. But her comment wasn't \"dumb.\"
[The person to whom] much is given, much is required, fantomas.

I know it's an uphill battle sometimes.
RazorbackTX
Originally posted by fantomas:
Pompous nonsense? Where the hell do you get off? Are you unaware of what IRONY means or would you like that defined too?

The woman was embarrassed by the idiot in office. Whether she expresses in the US or overseas, it's her right. Just as it's the right of people to protest her or not listen to her. But her comment wasn't "dumb."

From Merriam-Webster Dictionary, FYI:

Main Entry: 1dumb
Pronunciation: 'd&m
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German tumb mute
Date: before 12th century
1 : lacking the power of speech <deaf and dumb from birth> <dumb animals>
2 : temporarily unable to speak (as from shock or astonishment) <struck dumb with fear>
3 : not expressed in uttered words <dumb grief>
4 : SILENT; also : TACITURN
5 : lacking some usual attribute or accompaniment; especially : having no means of self-propulsion <dumb barge>
6 a : markedly lacking in intelligence : STUPID b : showing a lack of intelligence c : having little or no meaning -- sometimes used in the phrase dumb luck
7 : not having the capability to process data <a dumb terminal> -- compare INTELLIGENT 3a
synonym see STUPID
- dumb·ly /'d&m-lE/ adverb
- dumb·ness noun
usage There is evidence that, when applied to persons who cannot speak, dumb has come to be considered offensive.

Very, very well put, Fantomas.
Munson Man
Such righteous indignation!! I guess it does prove the adage that we are most repulsed when we see ourselves in others. As for the rest of it, well, it seems to make my assessment quite accurate. Carry on......
mets57
oh yeah, very well said, fantomas. CARRY ON!
RazorbackTX
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Andre29:
oh yeah, very well said, fantomas. CARRY ON!
Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
seanx
not that it actually matters, but for what it's worth, I feel like the whole thing is pretty rediculous.

I see Natalie Main's comment as merely a poor choice of words, not to mention bad timing. I totally agree with her in principle and encourage such opportunities to use their celebrity as a platform for positive action.

The outrage expressed at these marginally talented young women is out of sync with the statement about the President. The kind of actions taken by radio stations and so-called "Americans" are just as knee-jerk as Main's words. in other words, the volume of the outraged voices was kind of pathetic, and stupid. (yeah, I said "marginally". really, they're harmless and not very original, but I'm sure they're lovely women.)

Now can we get on Toby Keith's ass please? (irony intended.)

just for the record, phillyfan your arrogance is kind of sexy...growl....

[ June 02, 2003, 07:03 PM: Message edited by: smrobbins65 ]
Bill W
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smrobbins65:
merely a poor choice of words, not to mention bad timing... The kind of actions taken by radio stations and so-called \"Americans\" are just as knee-jerk as Main's words.
"Bad timing" because she should've waited til the Shrub was unpopular with the Great Unwashed to make them? Rather than "knee-jerk," it seems likely to me that the words had been bubbling inside her for months or years.

I think *my* arrogance is way sexier than PF's.
wink
bluebird48234
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Bill W:
I think *my* arrogance is way sexier than PF's. wink
Can you rap? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
PhillyFan
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bluebird48234:
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Bill W:
I think *my* arrogance is way sexier than PF's. wink
Can you rap? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
B-I-G.... P-O---P-P-A... No info...

for the... DEA...

Federal agents, mad cause i'm flagarant (sp?)
tap my cell... and da phone in the basement..

your turn archie bunker....
danimal
I'm ... too sexy for this chat ... too sexy for this chat ... what you think about that?? wink tongue.gif rolleyes.gif
bluebird48234
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danimal:
I'm ... too sexy for this chat ... too sexy for this chat ... what you think about that?? wink tongue.gif rolleyes.gif
PF: I don't get your rap.

Danimal: Not a rap - but, since I like the song, it passes the "hot" test.

*I'm still waiting to hear from Bill W!

There have got to be some gay, white (black, too)rappers out there who can show us how bond with a "honey".
PhillyFan
excuse me that is from a rap song there birdie.

Quite a popular mainstream song also... Not an obscure Ice cube song....
bluebird48234
*Which one?

*Who is the rapper?

*What are you attempting to say with the excerpt?
PhillyFan
tisk tisk tisk... ask for rap and you dont even know who the BIG poppa is????????? Well, this white boy is not educating you on dat.
GatorJamie
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PhillyFan:
Well, this white boy is not educating you on dat.
PhillyFan is white? I thought that he was an alien. With his right hand removed and replaced with a right wing.

wink
PhillyFan
This last post needs some work there babe... i expect more from you than that one...
cubsfan1982
I know I'm late jumping on the bandwagon, but when people started melting, crushing, running over Dixie Chicks CDs, I actually bought two (one as a birthday gift,) which is something I never do. A.) because I'm not a big fan of country music, and 2.) I burn my own. Small show of support, I know, but still, I was glad they said what they did. Somebody has to, I mean, Tom Daschle sure as hell ain't saying it.
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