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TomFord
Neil MacFarquhar in the NY Times:

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The entire Middle East seems to be entering uncharted political and social territory with a similar mixture of anticipation and dread. Events in Lebanon and Egypt, following a limited vote for municipal councils in Saudi Arabia and landmark elections in Iraq, as well as the Palestinian territories, combined to give the sense, however tentative, that twilight might be descending on authoritarian Arab governments.

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Another factor, pressure from the Bush administration, has emboldened demonstrators, who believe that their governments will be more hesitant to act against them with Washington linking its security to greater freedom after the Sept. 11 attacks. The United States says it will no longer support repressive governments, and young Arabs, while hardly enamored of American policy in the region, want to test that promise.

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\"The general atmosphere awaits big political and social change,\" said Dawood al-Shirian, a Saudi commentator on Dubai television. \"There will have to be some sort of dialogue between the regimes and the people, or there will be confrontation, but things will not remain as they are.\"

Arabs differ on the degree to which American influence helped foster the changed mood, but there is no doubt that pressure from the Bush administration played some role.
 
Old ME hand Ralph Peters strikes a more cautious note in the Post.
millerbeach
Boy TomFord, for a minute, I thought you were going to source FoxNews. But then, I opened the page and lo and behold, the good old New York Times! I really do hope it is coming true. It would be even better to see democracy return to this country.
sportinlife
Just a word of caution: history.

The middle east has variably seen peace and tolerance under the rule of law at different times through several thousand years of history. It took a long time for some regimes imposed by force, but willingly accepted by the defeated, to eventually crumble. Establishing an enduring peace, I believe, still has to happen from within. If we are protecting those who want an enduring peace, they will create one.
TomFord
These guys are more optimistic than you lot:

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gmginsfo
Whatever the source, cautious optimism should be the watchword - and, as the newly-freed Martha would say, "it's a good thing!"
sportinlife
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These guys are more optimistic than you lot:
It may be worth noting that both magazines are indeed cautious: Newsweek does so on it's cover with a cautionary story about "The Promises and Pitfalls Ahead" and the Economist, conservative by European standards, with articles such as this one contrasting current attitudes toward life in the USA and abroad. It is misleading to site just the cover of the mags.
bobby78751
Hummmm...wasn't Newsweek the mag last week that cut-off Martha's head and put it on some model's body? Yeah, I thought so.
Erik G
[QUOTE]Originally posted by millerbeach:
It would be even better to see democracy return to this country. [/QUOTE

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif I am only allowed eight. Now back to Quantum Physics while I am cycling through the trees.

Edited cuz I cannot believe I forgot to capitalize Quantum Physics. I am slipping like worn gears.

[ March 07, 2005, 09:30 PM: Message edited by: Erik G ]
sportinlife
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I still do not believe that the statistical method of the Quantum Theory is the last word, but for the time being I am alone in my opinion.
(Albert Einstein, On Quantum Physics, p125 1936)
You may want to keep an open mind.
Erik G
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sportinlife:

You may want to keep an open mind.

Or at least marry a good woman to do all your difficult math smile.gif Or so Eistein's story goes. More time to ride your bike anyway.
sportinlife
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Or at least marry a good woman  
Would a good man do? smile.gif

Speaking of Physicists, Hans Brethe died today. A great scientist and humanitarian. One less voice to restrain the madness.

Incidentally he out-lived his erstwhile friend and adversary, the stolidly pro-nuke Ed Teller. Let's hope that's a good omen.

Heard a wonderfully humorous and interesting lecture by Sir Roger Penrose at the Philadelphia Free Library recently. Would have been interesting to hear his thoughts on the two.

Sorry for the diversion from topic. Remotely relevant I guess.

[ March 09, 2005, 08:28 AM: Message edited by: sportinlife ]
fantomas
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sportinlife:
 
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Or at least marry a good woman  
Would a good man do? smile.gif

Speaking of Physicists, Hans Brethe died today.
Hans Bethe. One of the greatest physicists of the 20th century.

I'm a little more cautious about the Middle East situation. As the immense (hundreds of thousands) rally in Beirut today shows, Syria's constituency, primarily Hezbollah, but also some other Muslim minorities, in Lebanon is tremendous; and let's not forget, Syria stepped in to end the slaughter of Muslim and ethnic minorities, and as a counterweight to Israel's backing of the Christian troops. Assad should have begun the withdrawal of his troops a long time ago, but then again, what happens if once again the various Muslim factions and the Christians in Lebanon engage in the bloodbaths of the past? Is the US going to step in then? What if Israel once again becomes a target? The situation in Lebanon is a hell of a lot more complex than we may realize.
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