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twin58
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You’ve done your part – you’ve served your country and are proud to be a veteran of our armed services. You also work hard, using the training you’ve received in the military to advance yourself – and your company.

And the thanks you get from President George W. Bush? It’s the possible elimination of your overtime pay.

That’s right: The fact that you are a veteran and have specialized military training means that companies could have the right not to pay you overtime. That’s according to the Labor Department’s new overtime regulations which could go into effect in March.

The Republican-dominated Senate recently declined to block the new regulations, which would eliminate overtime for about 8 million Americans.
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Firms Plan Expansion Of Overtime Exemptions

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By Kirstin Downey
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, January 29, 2004; Page E01

Some companies are interpreting language in new national overtime pay rules as possibly allowing them to exempt workers who have received military training.
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Under federal law, workers who are \"learned professionals\" are presumed to have control of their own time and are exempt from receiving overtime pay. Historically, that category included workers such as doctors, lawyers, scientists, theologians and others with advanced degrees.

In proposing changes in the rules last spring, the Labor Department said in the Federal Register that \"the exemption is also available to employees in such professions who have substantially the same knowledge as the degreed employees, but who have attained such knowledge through a combination of work experience, training in the armed forces, attending a technical school, attending a community college or other intellectual instruction.\"
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\"Boeing observes that many of its most skilled technical workers received a significant portion of their knowledge and training outside the university classroom, typically in a branch of the military service, where through a combination of classroom training and field experience they become 'learned experts' on very sophisticated aerospace products or services,\" wrote Cheryl A. Russell, Boeing's director of federal affairs. \"Boeing thus supports the Department's focus on the knowledge used by the employee in performing her job, rather than the source of the knowledge or skill.\"
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Does anyone here speak Arabic?
RazorbackTX
Gotta pay for those taxcuts somehow!
timber07
Look at it this way. There are two guys doing the same job, with the same level of knowledge. One of these guys spent 5 years in college obtaining this knowledge. The other guy spent 5 years in the Military obtaining this knowledge. Let's say these two guys work together and both work 50 hours a week. If I were the college educated guy I'd be a little ticked off if my colleague was earning 10 hours of overtime pay while I just received my basic salary no matter how long I worked.

Speaking from personal experience I know there are a LOT of salaried people getting screwed with their pay. It's a lot easier to just make your "managers" work 80 hours a week than it is to either hire more employees or pay people overtime.

As a result I would like to see overtime for EVERYONE. I'm sure the long term affect of this would be for wages to drop. But I think we would also see higher employment and fewer stressed out people!
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