p2insdca
Sep 18 2003, 09:53 PM
Herr Tiggee
Sep 18 2003, 10:33 PM
Not surprising.
[ September 18, 2003, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: AU Tiger in LA ]
PhillyFan
Sep 19 2003, 12:55 AM
Anti-Tax? How are we going to pay for all the welfare moms? all the illegals to have a drivers lic?
Steve May shoulda concentrated on his run for the Ariz Gov't not being involved in some anti-tax unit. You should be happy he failed... Pork Barrel Sen Kennedy spending is SAFE again.
[ September 19, 2003, 12:56 AM: Message edited by: PhillyFan ]
RazorbackTX
Sep 19 2003, 06:04 AM
QUOTE
PhillyFan:
Anti-Tax? How are we going to pay for all the welfare moms? all the illegals to have a drivers lic?
Not to mention $87 billion to "liberate" Iraq.
p2insdca
Sep 19 2003, 06:47 AM
Phillyfan, I am not pro tax, I just think that what ever we need to spend must be covered
CPT_Doom
Sep 19 2003, 10:30 AM
The bigger issue here is whether it is possible to be a gay conservative - or at least a gay conservative leader - outside of the Log Cabin. As social acceptance of gay people grows, there is a faction of the conservative movement (and we all know who they are) that is becoming more doctrinaire in their opposition to gay rights. They're goal is to convince the public that gay visibility/social acceptance is a totally negative thing - it can only lead to the destruction of society, as James Dobson claimed on Larry King Live recently.
The biggest threat to the "pro-family" political agenda is the normal, average, everyday, nonthreatening, gay person - particularly one in a visible job that does not involve gay rights. The Steve Mays of the world, by their very existence, contradict the message of the "pro-family" movement.
I have to believe as the movement loses social ground (and despite this summer's backlash, the overall "culture war" is being lost by the "pro-family" movement) they will become even more unwilling to accept an openly gay conservative, even one whose stances on abortion, taxes, government size, etc. are all in line with the overall conservative movement.
I really think the Republican party, and the conservative movement will be at a crossroads in the near future - and face a potential break over the issue of homosexuality.
fantomas
Sep 23 2003, 04:14 PM
No, the biggest threat to the "pro-family" agenda are the hypocrites who condemn homosexuals, heteros, bis and others for their sexual orientations and lives, while doing whatever they can to defy this "pro-family" agenda in their own bedrooms. Gingrich, Hutchinson, Hyde, Barr, Livingston, all the high and mighty blowhards, all the ones who couldn't wait to slam Clinton were whoring like there was no tomorrow. I'm sorry, but until these people can practice what they preach, I believe they're the greatest danger to their own fanaticism.
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