"There's an old saying in Tennessee. I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee. It says fool me once...
...shame on...uh
shame on...you.
Fool me...can't get fooled again."

Shrub 9/17


Brilliant!!!

This guy went to boarding school, Yale, and Harvard, and he can't complete a coherent sentence. Amazing !!!

Yep, public speaking is not President Bush's strong point.( Even he admits it - keeps his speeches short & to the point) I guess EVERY president has had his strong & weak points. Public speaking WAS always one of Clinton's best attributes.

This is funny. To actually hear it is ten times funnier. They've been playing it on the radio a lot up here. Still love the guy, though.

[quote]Originally posted by William1865:
This is funny. To actually hear it is ten times funnier. They've been playing it on the radio a lot up here. Still love the guy, though.

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You are so right!! I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I actually heard it!!
Did they replace Karen Hughes with Dan Quayle?
Here it is http://www.outcastradio.com/bushfool.wav

RazorbackTx dude, your the bomb!!!!!!

[quote]Originally posted by copman:
Yep, public speaking is not President Bush's strong point.( Even he admits it.

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Of course, the problem with that is one of the major points on the presidential job description is effective public speaking. Ineffective public speakers who have other leadership skills become presidential advisers, not presidents.

[quote]Originally posted by jqueer:


Of course, the problem with that is one of the major points on the presidential job description is effective public speaking. Ineffective public speakers who have other leadership skills become presidential advisers, not presidents.

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Where is this presidential job description? I've never seen it. I always thought the presidential job description was whatever voters decided they wanted it to be. But whatever. Bush is president at least until 2004, probably until 2008. Not a lot you can do about it now.

Interesting attitude. I find that sort fo thinking only occurs to people sympathetic to those in power. I remember having very similar conversations during the Clinton administration, only I would be on the other side. But what no conservative I talked to seemed to grasp was that you not only get to criticize the administration, but you even get to call the majority of the citizens of the United States morons. Of course in this case, the majority of the citizens didn't vote for Bush. Oh, I know, the majority of citizens voted against Clinton in two elections as well, but at least he actually garnered more votes than either of his opponents. Bush did not.

Good lord. The man's a complete turnip.

. . . a turnip with his finger on the trigger.

OK, I'm opening up myself to ridicule by actually admitting that I watched the original Star Trek but here goes. Dammit Jim!

There's an episode where they all beam down to a planet to find that the leader of the planet has been drugged and is propped up in front of the cameras to give speeches while his evil henchmen did what evil henchman are prone to do.

Shrub reminds me of that drugged up leader.

[quote]Originally posted by Jim Allen:
OK, I'm opening up myself to ridicule by actually admitting that I watched the original Star Trek but here goes. Dammit Jim!

There's an episode where they all beam down to a planet to find that the leader of the planet has been drugged and is propped up in front of the cameras to give speeches while his evil henchmen did what evil henchman are prone to do.

Shrub reminds me of that drugged up leader.

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Yep, I'll open myself up to ridicule as well. The original Star Trek is the only one I watch. In that episode, a history professor went to some planet to form a Nazi society and tried to retain just the "good" parts of it, but it didn't work.

Actually, for as long as I can remember all Presidents have been like that. Some just speak better than others. That's why it just doesn't matter that to me how well a President can speak. I get a couple of good laughs too, but then so what? There was a previous President (whose politics I'm closer aligned) who was a great speaker, but after every time he spoke, I would just shake my head and say, does anybody really buy that. After he spoke with World leaders, I imagined that they laughed behind his back as well.

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In that Star Trek episode, someone said the quote, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." I wonder how Bush would say that?


[ September 18, 2002: Message edited by: pat125 ]

Started out folksy, ended up Pete Townshend.

[quote]Originally posted by Jim Allen:
OK, I'm opening up myself to ridicule by actually admitting that I watched the original Star Trek...

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I was sure you were gonna invoke Scotty's quotation of "..Fool me TWICE, shame on me," which is what Resident Bush was trying to say!

The Resident actually reminds me more of the Wizard of Oz: "Pay no attention to that Rove behind the curtain!" Or Reagan, except RR had a script and stuck to it. GWB is not an improviser, and spontaneity paralyzes his tongue.

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Bush's father H.W. also suffered through verbal gaffes, but at least the thoughts approached completion.

This guy's oral incompetence really is an index of his consciousness--shallow, muddled, and unable to focus on anything beyond a few heavily repeated themes ("regime change," "weapons of mass destruction," etc.) for long.

The Shrub is now pushing us ever closer to war.

The lights are on but nobodies home...
Here is the video link, it is about 26 seconds into the video. I suggest everyone be seated as they are watching this....

Here he is ladies and gents the leader of the free world
http://msnbc.com/m/c/ctv_emailthis.asp?id=...nbc&sl=&0mw=x92

Forgot to mention that there is a advertisement first, then about 25 seconds of something else and then you can see Dumbya in action.

Enjoy!

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"See, we love — we love freedom. That's what they didn't understand. They hate things; we love things. They act out of hatred; we don't seek revenge, we seek justice out of love." —George W. Bush, Oklahoma City, Aug. 29, 2002
"There's no cave deep enough for America, or dark enough to hide." —George W. Bush, Oklahoma City, Aug. 29, 2002

"President Musharraf, he's still tight with us on the war against terror, and that's what I appreciate. He's a — he understands that we've got to keep Al Qaeda on the run, and that by keeping him on the run, it's more likely we will bring him to justice." —George W. Bush, Ruch, Ore., Aug. 22, 2002

"I'm a patient man. And when I say I'm a patient man, I mean I'm a patient man. Nothing he [Saddam Hussein] has done has convinced me — I'm confident the Secretary of Defense — that he is the kind of fellow that is willing to forgo weapons of mass destruction, is willing to be a peaceful neighbor, that is — will honor the people — the Iraqi people of all stripes, will — values human life. He hasn't convinced me, nor has he convinced my administration." —George W. Bush, Crawford, Texas, Aug. 21, 2002

"I'm thrilled to be here in the bread basket of America because it gives me a chance to remind our
fellow citizens that we have an advantage here in America — we can feed ourselves." —George W. Bush, Stockton, Calif., Aug. 23, 2002

"The federal government and the state government must not fear programs who change lives, but must welcome those faith-based programs for the embetterment of mankind." —George W. Bush, Stockton, Calif., Aug. 23, 2002

[quote]Originally posted by pat125:
In that Star Trek episode, someone said the quote, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." I wonder how Bush would say that?

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You know the t-shirt that said "I Hate Pink Floyd?" Mine would say "I Hate Star Trek." Well, that's sure not to be controversial.

http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/meanings/22900.html give the attribution of that quote.

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Lord Acton, in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton, 1887. 'Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men'.
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How would Bush say it?

"Absolute power. It's ... [pause] ... Absolute power is absolute, and 'Murricans want absolum. For all the world. That's why they hate us: our absolution."

Trust me: I want to laugh (I actually start). I want to read every, single one of the nauseatingly SIMPLE uttterances.

But this is our President we're talking about!! I just can't stomach it.

I think people will be well prepared in 2004.....

In case anyone missed it, here he is in action, there is an advertisement and then wait about 25 seconds into the video:

http://msnbc.com/m/c/ctv_emailthis.asp?id=...nbc&sl=&0mw=x92

[quote]Originally posted by bluebird48234:
I think people will be well prepared in 2004.....

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If you're implying that the president's inarticulateness will prevent his reelection that may be wishful thinking.

1-Many citizens in the voting public more than ever consider him "one of them."

2-The proposed attack on Iraq has drawn all attention away from other issues, and looks as though it may be perpetuated at least until 2004.

3-What we don't know we can't vote on. National security is a broad shield under which a lot of info can be hidden.

I agree with Sportinlife about 2004. The administration is successfully deflecting attention from serious domestic problems by seizing the rhetorical ground and simply hammering away at the necessity--the inevitability--of this war.

Repetition is one of the oldest and most useful tricks in the book. If you repeat something enough times many people will begin to believe it. "Appeasement," "regime change," "weapons of mass destruction," etc. are all gaining more traction than "social security privatization," the stock market collapse, the burgeoning deficit, and corporate malfeasance and criminal behavior. Of course the ABSENCE of the other issues is making some of us concentrate on them more and more, but I have ceased to be surprised at how many people are now convinced we HAVE TO fight this war RIGHT NOW whatever the costs may be.

I said once before in my thread on Bush that the man is shrewd...and I will say it again. That a wealthy scion, a President's son no less, born in Connecticut, educated at Yale and Harvard no less, who avoided military service and never ran a business that did not somehow benefit from either government or his father's largess, has successfully portrayed himself as a Good Ole' Boy from Texas, is testimony to at least one of his gifts. He may be as intellectually dense as an armadillo, but he certainly doesn't lack for political skills and savvy.

Ultimately economic issues are going to be the determining factor in 2004. If things don't improve, the Iraq war can only buoy Bush so long. Just think of his father: he also benefited from a very successful war before crashing in 1992 because of his inability to address bottom-line economic issues (he even called "trickle-down" free-market economics, which animate W.'s various economic scenarios, as "voodoo" years before), and a failure to improve the economy just may sink W. too unless he can find better people to steer the government's fiscal and monetary levers.

You may be right about the economic issue fantomas, but don't wars ususually cause a temporary economic boost?

I suspect that may not happen as expected this time, but can't take time to explain the reasons I believe that...and I'd probably be wrong since I'm not an economist (not that they've looked much like fortune tellers lately.)