William1865
Jan 15 2004, 07:44 AM
Presidentmatch.com Hope this hasn't been posted already.
BPT-336
Jan 15 2004, 08:07 AM
My ranking was: 1) Kerry :confused: , 2) Dean :cool: , 3) Braun (how the hell did she get there eek! ).
I used to have an old game called President-Elect where you could answer questions based on your views and it would give you a percentile ranking on those views. 0% was just to the right of Mussolini and 100% was Mrs. Breschnev. These questions appeared very similar.
Anyway, I always ended up moderate liberal on economic matters and social issues (65%-70%), and a left wing radical for foreign policy (85-90%). Oh yeah, I could beat George HW pretty easily in '88.
DestinyRules
Jan 15 2004, 08:17 AM
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BPT336:
My ranking was: 1) Kerry :confused: , 2) Dean :cool: , 3) Braun (how the hell did she get there eek! ).
Mine was 1) Gephardt :confused: 2) Braun (too bad there isn't a raised eyebrow emoticon), 3) Sharpton eek!
Dean ranked eighth of the 10. Bush was dead last.(like THAT was a surprise!

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DestinyRules
Jan 15 2004, 08:19 AM
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BPT336:
I used to have an old game called President-Elect where you could answer questions based on your views and it would give you a percentile ranking on those views. 0% was just to the right of Mussolini and 100% was Mrs. Breschnev. These questions appeared very similar.
One of my former supervisors from back in my college days used to be a Government and Politics major at the University of Maryland (he became an infromation systems management major and ended up as a computer lab supervisor). He asked me a series of questions to gauge where I fell in the political scale. He told me after his battery of questions that I was an independent moderate. lol If I were a fastball, I'd be right down the heart of the plate.
BPT-336
Jan 15 2004, 08:27 AM
Destiny, I used to do the same thing before Y2K blew the darn game up. I've got to find the old manual where it ranked the then potential presidential candidates and presidents for comparison.
Bill W
Jan 15 2004, 08:44 AM
No surprise ... Kucinich scored 100% with me, followed by Braun (withdrawing from the race today), Sharpton, Gephardt (who I have considerable distaste for), Kerry and Dean.
SheaBoy
Jan 15 2004, 09:12 AM
I'm 100% Al Sharpton, 89% Dean, and 9% Bush.
I don't know whether I'm more surprised about being so in bed with Sharpton, or about having anything in common with George W.
TomFord
Jan 15 2004, 09:24 AM
I always do these things by entering the most PC responses. For example, I really don't give a shit about the environment--certainly not any more than recycling my trash (which I would do even if I didn't have to) and not littering (does that count?)--but I always pick the most extreme pro-environment answer just because, in an ideal world, we'd all be rabidly pro-environment, whatever that means. Anyway, Sharpton was my number one and Bush was last.
William1865
Jan 15 2004, 09:34 AM
I was 100% Bush, though I said strongly opposed to the marriage amendment and for civil unions. Somehow I was 15% with Kucinuts. Not surprisingly, my next highest after Bush was Lieberman.
shore
Jan 15 2004, 09:55 AM
What a surprise--I was 100% Sharpton and 99% Braun and Kucinich. Dean was 95%. Bush was 14%. I would never vote for Sharpton, could possibly vote for Braun and will probably vote for Dean or Clark-- I wish they were on the same ticket.
fantomas
Jan 15 2004, 10:24 AM
Braun, Kucinich, Sharpton, Gephardt, Kerry, Clark, Dean, Edwards, Lieberman.
I guess I ended up with Braun first because my national security and immigration answers weren't totally ultraliberal. Too bad she doesn't have a chance and is dropping out.
W was last on my list. Big surprise!
[ January 16, 2004, 08:47 AM: Message edited by: fantomas ]
Munson Man
Jan 15 2004, 11:09 AM
Interestingly, I was a 100% match with Lieberman, with W at 92%, and then all the Dems at between 81 and 85%, except for Kucinich, who was 55%.
Lksimcoe
Jan 15 2004, 11:21 AM
I was 100% for Kucinich, 98% Sharpton, 97% Kerry,
And a big whopping 15% for the shrub.
Who is Kucinich, and why is he impersonating Howdy Doody.
Cattledog
Jan 15 2004, 11:29 AM
It was kind of a surprise to me, too...
Mine went: 01. Kucinich, 02. Gephardt, 03. Kerry.
In my mind, I am: 01. Dean, 02. Clark, 03. Edwards.
William1865
Jan 15 2004, 11:31 AM
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Cattledog:
It was kind of a surprise to me, too...
Mine went: 01. Kucinich, 02. Gephardt, 03. Kerry.
In my mind, I am: 01. Dean, 02. Clark, 03. Edwards.
Maybe you can travel forward in time to the Soviet Union and sue that website.
Cattledog
Jan 15 2004, 11:41 AM
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William1865:
Maybe you can travel forward in time to the Soviet Union and sue that website.
You started the thread, I am just giving my results like everyone else.
Bill W
Jan 15 2004, 11:47 AM
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Munson Man:
Interestingly, I was a 100% match with Lieberman, with W at 92%...
Jon Stewart: "Lieberman is the choice of Bush supporters who think he's not quite Jewish enough."
araanib
Jan 15 2004, 12:01 PM
Not surprisingly, Gephardt and I are most compatible. Bush didn't even show up on my list.
William1865
Jan 15 2004, 12:02 PM
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Cattledog:
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William1865:
Maybe you can travel forward in time to the Soviet Union and sue that website.
You started the thread, I am just giving my results like everyone else.
Dude, I was joking. Wes Clark is into time travel, Dean thinks the Soviet Union is still up and running and Edwards is the trial lawyer.
mdphl
Jan 15 2004, 12:12 PM
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Bill W:
No surprise ... Kucinich scored 100% with me, followed by Braun (withdrawing from the race today), Sharpton, Gephardt (who I have considerable distaste for), Kerry and Dean.
We must be kindred spirits -- or answered the questions in the identical fashion.
I'm still for Dean! His going to bat for Civil Unions in Vermont makes the difference for me.
aquaman
Jan 15 2004, 12:36 PM
1. Kerry (100%)
2. Gephardt (98%)
3. Clark (95%)
Personally, I'd be pretty happy with any of those three as the Dem nominee and president.
Joe in Philly
Jan 15 2004, 03:20 PM
This was kind of fun...I had Kucinich at 100 percent, Gephardt at 95, Kerry and Sharpton at 94 (I'd never vote for Sharpton but he has no chance anyway)...down to Lieberman in 8th place at 73 percent. Braun doesn't show up any more now that she's out. Bush? 3 percent.
[ January 15, 2004, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]
NoLongerHere
Jan 15 2004, 03:47 PM
I kinda gravitated toward Kucinich in the debates, so it's not surprising he came out No. 1 for me. I'm feeling Clark, though (who was toward the bottom on my list of matches, however).
DestinyRules
Jan 15 2004, 03:53 PM
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BPT336:
Destiny, I used to do the same thing before Y2K blew the darn game up. I've got to find the old manual where it ranked the then potential presidential candidates and presidents for comparison.
I'm not sure if he got the questions from any set source. To me, it seemed as though he was coming up with questions off the top of his head. He was a hardcore poly sci guy before switching over to computers.
araanib
Jan 15 2004, 03:58 PM
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Joe in Philly:
Bush? 3 percent.
Oh, my God. Bush and I are 6% compatable. I'm so ... tainted.
TonkaManOR
Jan 15 2004, 05:04 PM
1. Kerry (100%)
2. Kucinich (98%)
3. Gephardt (97%)
4. Dean (91%)
5. Sharpton (88%)
6. Clark (88%)
7. Edwards (87%)
8. Lieberman (78%)
9. Shrub (32%)
Kerry???? huh? I'm so confused! eek!
My order came out identical to Bill W's. Oh my. It's interesting that some people have Bush and Lieberman close, because even though Lieberman was my least favorite dem, he was still 72% compared to 8% for Bush.
Joe in Philly
Jan 15 2004, 09:40 PM
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araanib:
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Joe in Philly:
Bush? 3 percent.
Oh, my God. Bush and I are 6% compatable. I'm so ... tainted.
You'll be receiving your Log Cabin membership application shortly.
I'm amused that I've sent this to people I know and so far you're the only one that I know of who's come close to my 3 percent for Bush score.
[ January 15, 2004, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]
blkbear
Jan 15 2004, 11:39 PM
Hey guys...I answered the poll questions directly opposite of my true feelings and here are my results...
1. Bush 100%
2. Liberman 47%
3. Edwards 37%
4. Dean/Clark 53%
6. Kerry 28%
7. Sharpton 22%
8. Gephardt 21%
9. Kucinich 14%
So I guess my man is Kucinich
BPT-336
Jan 16 2004, 06:00 AM
I redid my answers to see what the difference would be by not selecting a party and the effect of Braun out of the race. Ended up 1) Kerry 2) Dean 3) Kucinich eek!
For the record I have an 17% score with "W" and Gephardt is my lowest Democrat at 71%.
araanib
Jan 16 2004, 06:16 AM
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Joe in Philly:
I'm amused that I've sent this to people I know and so far you're the only one that I know of who's come close to my 3 percent for Bush score.
Clearly we are soul mates.
By comparing candidates, I discovered that the reason Bush and I are as "in-bed-together" as much as we are is because I said I strongly opposed immediate withdrawl of troops from Iraq and because I said having held elected office was very important.
Though I was truly surprised that Bush and I were so polar opposite of one another. I guess you don't think you could be in total disagreement with the current government.
copman
Jan 16 2004, 07:13 AM
My top results were Sharpton,(WHAAT?) Kucinich, Gephardt & Kerry. Maybe I am more liberal than I realize??????????? eek! eek!
shore
Jan 16 2004, 07:38 AM
I don't exactly understand what the percentage means. I took the quiz again, I think I slightly changed some of my responses, and I still come out 100% Sharpton. Then I went into the 'compare' section, and found that I do not agree with Sharpton on all the issues, usually varying in degree of importance on issues. Seems strange to me that so many of us are 100% Sharpton.
SoFlaSpartan
Jan 16 2004, 08:32 AM
I managed to come up at 100% with both Kucinich AND Gephardt. Kerry was at 94%, Clard and Dean at 91%, Sharpton at 90%. Shrub at 9%. I'm devastated to be even THAT compatible with him.
bobby78751
Jan 16 2004, 08:44 AM
I got:
1 Kucinich Score: 100%
2 Gephardt Score: 99%
3 Kerry Score: 98%
4 Sharpton Score: 91%
5 Clark Score: 91%
6 Dean Score: 88%
7 Lieberman Score: 88%
8 Edwards Score: 83%
9 Bush Score: 24%
SheaBoy
Jan 16 2004, 08:48 AM
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copman:
My top results were Sharpton
The people who really care about you will still care about you, even after they find out you're a liberal, Copman. wink
fantomas
Jan 16 2004, 09:50 AM
Copman, I think you should accept things as they are, and admit that under that gruff, peace-officer exterior, you're a fuzzy superliberal at heart--'coz Lord knows, even I ended up with Braun and Kucinich before Sharpton!
It's also funny how progressive many of our responses on the questionnaire probably were, which is why some of these folks--Kucinich, Sharpton, Kerry, Gephardt--are turning up higher than Dean, who, as Paul Krugman points out in his column today, is less liberal than most of the other Democrats running....
BPT-336
Jan 16 2004, 09:57 AM
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copman:
My top results were Sharpton,(WHAAT?) Kucinich, Gephardt & Kerry. Maybe I am more liberal than I realize??????????? eek! eek!
I think your a commie pinko myself.

Kidding!!
DestinyRules
Jan 16 2004, 10:14 AM
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shore:
I don't exactly understand what the percentage means. I took the quiz again, I think I slightly changed some of my responses, and I still come out 100% Sharpton. Then I went into the 'compare' section, and found that I do not agree with Sharpton on all the issues, usually varying in degree of importance on issues. Seems strange to me that so many of us are 100% Sharpton.
I took the quiz again and still got Gephardt at 100 percent. Bush slipped from 47 percent (!!!!) to 30 percent. Still an eek! if you ask me.
William1865
Jan 16 2004, 10:29 AM
I got 100% Bush, even though I said I oppose the marriage amendment. Not sure how they're rating him on that percentage wise. I also opposed naming justices who would outlaw abortion - a question which reveals the limits of a survey like this: I generally support what I suppose would be called conservative judges, though I don't support judicial nominees who flat-out claim the will outlaw abortion, since any ruling should be based on the case in question and the arguments for and against, not on any pre-determined outcomes. (Were I a lefty, I would hope I would not support judges who say they will never restrict abortion under any circumstances, because in that case what's the point of showing up for arguments, etc.) And if a judge for some odd reason wanted to outlaw abortion and outlaw guns, I wouldn't support that judge. So obviously some of the questions are a bit more black and white than real issues generally are, and the scores probably are as well.
araanib
Jan 16 2004, 10:35 AM
I believe that the survey measures closest compatability and then, relative to that, the proximity of the other candidates. For instance, William was CLOSEST to Bush, though his answers we different on some key points, which would probably up the percentage compatability with some of the Democrats but not affect your overall Bush rating. Mathmatically that means if you tried to split yourself down the middle (alternately opposing and agreeing with Bush's positions), you will still match Bush 100%, but you would match the Dems at 90% or so.
Edited to add:
Yup. I'm right.
[ January 16, 2004, 09:39 AM: Message edited by: araanib ]
copman
Jan 16 2004, 12:58 PM
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William1865:
So obviously some of the questions are a bit more black and white than real issues generally are, and the scores probably are as well.
I have to agree that on some of the questions I had to pick an answer that wasn't QUITE what I wanted because of the wording. It seemed like a very inclusive quiz & I guess it would hard to make a perfect one anyway. I appreciate whoever put it together. Of course maybe they skewed it so that we all came up with the liberal candidates no matter what we picked. eek! To paraphrase Hillary Rodham Clinton Rodham - "its a vast left wing conspiracy"
[ January 16, 2004, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: copman ]
copman
Jan 16 2004, 01:00 PM
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fantomas:
Copman, I think you should accept things as they are, and admit that under that gruff, peace-officer exterior, you're a fuzzy superliberal
I just want to give the world a big hug!

Lets all sing "Kumbaya"
fantomas
Jan 16 2004, 02:22 PM
Definitely--Dean is probably going to need a hug after Iowa and New Hampshire, so Copman, get ready.
But why are so many of you surprised by your match with Braun? Did you simply not know her stands or take her seriously--well, no one took her seriously, which was her problem, but the woman actually did have some excellent ideas and thoughts about leading the country. And she wasn't stupid--she actually has a law degree from the University of Chicago, and I think we can safely assume that no one bought her way into that admittedly hard-core institution.
Back to Copman--so when are you going to cast off the Republican mantle and join your natural friends? We're not all dirty-haired, Little Red Book-toting, pot-toking anti-war marchers...well, some of us, but even they can be a lot of fun at times too!
William1865
Jan 16 2004, 02:26 PM
Braun's candidacy was basically a ploy to dilute the black vote and prevent African-Americans from rallying behind Al Sharpton by preventing him from getting all the press as "the" black candidate. Big Donna Brazile scheme. And a good one too.
pat125
Jan 16 2004, 10:31 PM
I'm all over the place in the political spectrum, so I'm not surprised by these interesting results.
1. Lieberman 100%
2. Edwards 97%
3. Gephardt 97%
4. Kerry 93%
5. Kucinich 91%
6. Dean 90%
7. Clark 88%
8. Sharpton 85%
9. Bush 70%
Don't know how accurate this poll is, but it's pretty safe to say that I won't be voting for the bottom two.
fenwayguy
Jan 20 2004, 02:49 PM
Umm, I must have done something wrong. 100% match with Sharpton AND Bush. eek! Yikes!
Here, let me try this again, with cookies unblocked...
Ok, that's better:
- Sharpton 100 (Tawana Brawley 0)
- Kerry-Kucinich tied at 98
- Clark-Dean tied at 91
- Edwards 83
- Lieberman 76
- Bush 9
What a flamer. Flaming liberal, that is. Kumbaya, lord.
(And now we know that browser cookies DO matter, otherwise the site can't keep track of the score.)
[ January 21, 2004, 07:46 AM: Message edited by: redsoxbreath ]
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