Herr Tiggee
Jan 13 2002, 09:57 PM
Well, it seems that the good folks in DC have someone waiting in the wings.
Deadwood Deadskins have a new scapegoatMy suspicion is Visor Boy had this whole thing ironed out long before this announcement. Maybe now he'll do something about the stupid free agent decisions DC made to get them to this point, leading to the Deadskins' spectacular, high-priced belly flop.
Zaac
Jan 14 2002, 07:36 AM
Super cool. Dallas and Washington are my co-favorite teams. Yeah, I know it shouldn't be possible, but they always have been. Time to get some tickets.
J T
Jan 14 2002, 10:37 PM
All SEC, FSU, and UM fans are happy that Little Stevie Superior ... oopps ... Spurrier has landed on his feet with the Redskins. It is a perfect fit for two super egomanics jerks like Spurrier and Snyder. However, the sad point of this whole hiring is Marty Schottheimer's dismissal. Marty and Stevie were friends until this incident. About 10 years ago, Marty encouraged his son to walk on at uf and Little Stevie kept him on as an graduate assistant coach. Marty and his son assisted Spurrier when it came to recruiting potential qb's to uf because Spurrier's reputation was not good with many recruits.
It shows that little Stevie will do anything to get ahead in this world. Now, lets see little Stevie tried to pull his bulls--t with professional players and experienced quarterbacks. Then, we have the interferring owner, big bucks Dan Snyder, who will put his two million dollars in every personal decision.
I would give this marriage at least two years to survive before Snyder and Spurrier have a big falling out.
Herr Tiggee
Jan 15 2002, 12:27 AM
Spurrier is truly an enigma. It seems as though people love him or hate him.
On the one hand he is brash, egotistical, arrogant, etc. On the other hand, his style of offense brought the SEC into the modern age. Were it not for him, every SEC school would still be playing BIG-12 style football (I-formation and option plays).
And he won a nat'l title and more conf titles than any coach ever did in so short a span.
I am torn between respect and derision. I think most football fans - those that appreciate the purity of the game and understand it from a reasonably unbiased perspective - have to believe he is an exceptional coach at the college level. The die-hard program-centric fans ("my college rules, your school sucks" fans) are prone to hate him.
And that's probably because he beat the shit out of the latter. And not that I give a shit about their opinions anyway (they're little more than rubes), as they let their love-for-program interfere with their understanding of the sport, its history, and all the nuances.
Still, I am struggling with my belief that he will be able to take his mastery to the next level. Playing 2 QB's off of one another is great when you want each to compete for a shot at the NFL. And he has done so almost every year at UF. But once QB's are in the NFL, where lies their incentive? If they are unhappy riding bench, they can always ask for a trade.
College players are competiting for a CHANCE at the big money. Once there, the dynamics are markedly different.
Why do I have a feeling that Spurrier will wind up as another Pitino, proven at the college level and leveled by the personalities of the Pro's?
ILLINI/FSU/Fan
Jan 16 2002, 03:53 PM
FSU fans find it ironic, if not, almost hilarious, that Spurrier, an adament Nole hater, is now coaching a team who's colors are Garnet/Gold and has an Indian as a symbol.
amazin12
Jan 16 2002, 04:58 PM
Has Steve Spurrier received his official Washington Redskins' visor yet?
J T
Jan 16 2002, 11:19 PM
AU Tiger in LA ... one thing that Vols, Bulldogs, War Eagles, Canes, Tigers (LSU), and Noles do agree on ... Spurrier is a jerk! Yes, he is an offensive genius but it was Bob Stoops's defense that help them win a national championship in 1996.
Visor Jerk was 5-8-1 against my Noles and he was 0-1 against the Canes. Little Stevie was the one that kept on hounding his AD, Jeremy Foley, to not schedule UM. I guess that Little Stevie jumped ship before UM will come to the swamp and clean his clock.
Don't forget his annual choke in Tennessee so Little Stevie Visor will last only two years in the NFL.
Herr Tiggee
Jan 17 2002, 12:01 AM
JT, I will agree the manner in which he managed in-game decisions was very unsportsmanlike. I will always view him as "obnoxious" because of that alone.
However... the current nature of the NCAA is that points were awarded in some of the computer polls (and in the minds of some AP and Coaches who vote) for hitting that magical point differential category. And as Steve had the personnel to hit that margin, he did so.
Given the dollars he was paid, to NOT do so in the face of being prevented from playing in the title game in a one-loss season would have been unpardonable. What he did was purely calculated and businesslike.
I have a hard time blaming him for such behavior.
Granted, the quotes out of his mouth were annoying at times. But running up the score is the only logical thing to do in a broken down system like the BCS.
Like him or not, if anyone disagrees with this premise, he or she has his or head buried deep in the sand. And he or she probably has no understanding of the weight carried by blowout wins.
As I look back at Spurrier's tactics, I am developing MORE respect for the shit he pulled. He's crafty, he knows the system, and he has an exceptional understanding of offensive schemes.
Noles fans can crow all they want about their record over UF.
But as I recall, Papa Bowden has done more than his fair share of running up the score. And there are just as many people out there that hate your program.
[ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: AU Tiger in LA ]
ILLINI/FSU/Fan
Jan 19 2002, 06:49 PM
I am sick and tired of cry babies spouting about running up the score! There is no argument here. If team B cannot stop team A, 1. Get better players, or 2. Get better coaching personnel.
If one is tired of their team losing to a better team, or in fact, losing consistently, go to a lesser conference! There is no running up the score in College Football. The fact is and will remain, one team will be better than another in any given game. Now cry babies...have mommy change your diaper.
Herr Tiggee
Jan 19 2002, 07:59 PM
Illini/FSU/Sybil fan - who the f*** is whining? I'm not whining. I said very specifically that I do not blame Spurrier for running up the score as college football's lack of a playoff system pretty much requires a coach to do it in order to increase his chances of making the title game.
And I do not blame gereatric Bowden for doing it. That does not change the fact that there are millions of football fans that despise programs that do so. UF was one. And FSU is another. Throwing for the end zone when you're up by 42 before halftime is running up the score.
Throwing for the end zone when you're up by 60 in the fourth quarter is running up the score.
You don't see folks in the NFL doing this. Do you? No. They have a playoff system.
I think you must be awfully sensitive of the fact that one of your multiple school allegiances is guilty of running up the score in 1 or 3 games every year.
Just keep in mind I'm not the one whining. I understand why a coach would do so, minus a playoff system. The fact remains that this behavior is only defineable as "running up the score." Yet you seem to be in denial.
Direct your ire at the next poster that decries it.
ILLINI/FSU/Fan
Jan 21 2002, 12:51 PM
AU dude...chill! I did not say you were whinning.
My post did not single you out. No where in my post did I direct it to you. Please read. I was just following the thread, giving my opinion on the supposed running up the score theory. Only those who are of whinning nature should have responded.
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