In a further attempt to show that this administration has a lot of difficulty admitting wrong, The Dick says this: "As a former secretary of defense, I think Donald Rumsfeld is the best secretary of defense the United States has ever had," the vice president said in a statement relayed to CNN through a spokesman Saturday. "People ought to let him do his job".
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Yeah, sure, why wouldnt they want to keep him? Almost everything he said leading up to the war has turned out to be fiction.

Rummy on WOMD: "We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."


Sunday, March 30, 2003

Ah-ha! "Somewhat"...that leads the compas points around the world!

He also said something like "Get off his back".

Obviously Chaney missed the whole idea of chain of command. It happened under his watch, he knew about it, tried to just keep it a secret, etc. Sorry, but at some point you gotta be held responsible. And that's not necessarily resigning or being fired, but man, learn to accept some responsibility!

To be fair, Rummy did express "heartfelt" apologies at his testimony on Friday...but most people would agree that words aren't enough. And charging low-ranking soldiers isn't enough either when people in the Pentagon knew about these events at the prison. Somebody has got to pay...but since he is one of the Dick's best friends, unfortunately, it will probably not be Rummy. Then again, if he does get fired, it won't be the first time someone in this administration has been "out of the loop" and spoken out of turn.

Well from my perspective for Cheney to say that Dumsfeld is the "best ever" that's pretty pathetic.

Yeah, and Rummy said he accepts full responsibility for the prison abuse and murders. If he is responsible, why hasn't he resigned? And why isn't he being court martialed in public hearings in Iraq, to be televised in Arab nations (as the administration is saying will be the case with some of the soldiers, despite the fact that court martials have always been private to protect the "sanctity" of the process -- except for now, when it might benefit the Bushies -- but I digress)? You can't just accept responsibility and not accept the consequences.

During his testimony on Friday, he said he will not resign until he believes his not able to continue his job.

All, hail...from CNN breaking news, the Monkey has spoken: "President Bush today praised embattled Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, saying he was doing 'a superb job' who the nation owes 'a debt of gratitude'."
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I saw that "debt of gratitude" bullshit too. We don't owe Rumsfeld shit. As this awful scandal unfolds I still look for Rummy to "resign".

And what kills me is the Repugs. are accusing the Dems of "politicizing" this. Oh, but they didn't do anything to contribute either..namely Dumsfeld.....yeah right...

I, for one, agree wholeheartedly with Der Fuehrer that Goering is the best Minister of Defense we've ever had. And our invasion of Austria was totally justifed, just as Our Leader says. And this ridiculous ruckus about a few prisoners --- Really! Who cares about the rights of detainees? That's why we have Dachau!
I am so glad to be a Good Amer---er, German!

it's not only the dems who are pissed at Rummy and Cheney. Yesterday, Senator Lindsay Graham, republican from south carolina joined the list of other GOP criticizing the pentagon and the White House by saying "... and to the White House, don't tell us something like 'get off his back'. We are not on his back! We have a constitutional duty..."

and in the mid-east, W's declaration today that not only won't Rumsfeld be fired but that we "owe him a debt of gratitude..." has outraged virtually everyone in the middle east.
The news coming out of the region has everyone from those that hate america to those who are strong US supporters shaking their heads saying this was the wrong thing.
Pro-american arabs are saying that this speech today gives official gov't approval to the abuse/torture in the prisons. that coupled with a Red Cross report leaked today
is disaster for the Cheney WH. and also on this report was that the red cross was told the abuse of prisoners was "part of the process..."

but the de facto disappearance of innocents.... made me think of the "desaparecidos" of argentina.( argentina desaparecidos ) people would be picked up by the police and dropped into the ocean from a plane. No one knew where they were and called them "desaparecidos", the disappeared.

Is this what we have become? please someone tell me no. This is not what america stands for.

SFDutch, love your post...

Look, these buffoons never served, they don't have a clue...Rummy "the best ever"--what a joke!--didn't he say in his testimony just a week ago, before the flap exploded, that he didn't think anything was wrong, "I don't believe in instant history," and never once mentioned this burgeoning mess that he and Liar-Meyers had known about since January? And to think there are actually people out there who want these clowns to stay in office...oh well, yes, Goering is doing a wonderful job, yeah, shall we go after the Sudetenland of Syria or those marshes in Poland (aka Iran) next? Gleichschaltung, tally ho!