At least John Kerry had a plan to stop outsourcing...Bush doesn't care.
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[ June 24, 2005, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: bobby78751 ]
Full Version: IBM hires 14,000 in India; Cuts up to 3,250 in U.S.
Hindi isn't so hard to learn, if you already know Sanskrit, which is linguistically related to ancient Greek and Latin. Mubarak ho!
Lets see 15000 cuts over the past 2 years in the US, 7800 new hies in India, now another 3500 cuts here and 14000 new hires in India.
Well they sold the PC business and the Chip business to China, so...
The SBC estimates that 285,000 jobs have been lost to India and China in just the last 4 years.
I'm certainly so glad that they are such free and open societies since we share Most Favored Nation Status with them and are dropping the rest of the tarriffs over the next 4 years. I so happy that at least our copyrights and patents are protected.
Get used to living on $200 a month.
What really pisses me off was that a delegation of us (Computer Council)went to DC to protest this crap, and the only ones who would listen at all were Jeffords, Leahy, and Clinton from NY; Bernie Sanders, and Ackerman & Engels from NY. No one from the Administration - not even from State would meet with us. The word was out that we were wasting our time and the R Leadership wasn't even going to talk to us.
Rob
Well they sold the PC business and the Chip business to China, so...
The SBC estimates that 285,000 jobs have been lost to India and China in just the last 4 years.
I'm certainly so glad that they are such free and open societies since we share Most Favored Nation Status with them and are dropping the rest of the tarriffs over the next 4 years. I so happy that at least our copyrights and patents are protected.
Get used to living on $200 a month.
What really pisses me off was that a delegation of us (Computer Council)went to DC to protest this crap, and the only ones who would listen at all were Jeffords, Leahy, and Clinton from NY; Bernie Sanders, and Ackerman & Engels from NY. No one from the Administration - not even from State would meet with us. The word was out that we were wasting our time and the R Leadership wasn't even going to talk to us.
Rob
I'm really not ethnically biased and love foreigners.......but just what we need, more customer service reps that I can't understand and don't understand me.
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I agree. Outsourcing is a huge problem. Why pay me $10 an hour for telephone support when you can pay someone in India $5 ?
IBM has been laying people off since 2001. So its nothing new.
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DallasUNC:
IBM has been laying people off since 2001. So its nothing new.
2001? IBM has been laying people off an doutsourcing since the early 90's. One of the reasons I left was because I was forced to lay off/fire hundreds of people seemingly indiscriminately. IBM has been laying people off since 2001. So its nothing new.
Rob
Hey, don't forget CAFTA! If it passes, we'll be flooded with even more impoverished immigrants from these countries like the ones from Mexico, because NAFTA utterly devastated its agricultural sector.
No jobs, no health care, no security, no social security, no future: Post-W America!
Vengan acá, amigos!!!
No jobs, no health care, no security, no social security, no future: Post-W America!
Vengan acá, amigos!!!
Rob, I'm VERY disappointed to hear that none of the GOPers would listen to you. If you've a more detailed description of your efforts and their rejection in that regard, please PM it to me or steer me to a site with same.
Illini, as FT notes, Hindi isn't that hard to learn. Put that telephone time with customer service reps to good use and "start speaking Hindi in your spare time!"
Illini, as FT notes, Hindi isn't that hard to learn. Put that telephone time with customer service reps to good use and "start speaking Hindi in your spare time!"
Advice to those still in HS and College:
Learn Chinese, Hindi, and Spanish.
Rob
Learn Chinese, Hindi, and Spanish.
Rob
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ITJock:
Advice to those still in HS and College:
Learn Chinese, Hindi, and Spanish.
Rob
And while you are at it, be sure to learn "Talking Out of Your Ass"...you might be a "conservative" President someday...or a right-wingnut Outsports member. Advice to those still in HS and College:
Learn Chinese, Hindi, and Spanish.
Rob
From the NYT-
XINSHA, China, June 24 - Honda Motor began loading cars onto a ship here on Friday for export to Europe in China's debut as a volume exporter of cars to the industrialized world.
The shipment follows DaimlerChrysler's disclosure two months ago at the Shanghai Auto Show that it was negotiating to build a factory near Beijing to make small cars for export to North America. It comes at the end of a week when the Haier Group's bid for Maytag and the China National Offshore Oil Corporation's bid for Unocal have fed Western concerns about China's rapid economic rise.
Automakers from around the globe, including General Motors, Ford Motor and Toyota Motor, are racing to build factories in China even as the rest of the world faces severe overcapacity in car manufacturing, raising the prospect that more factories may someday have to close in Western countries as Chinese exports grow.
China's swift development has already alarmed leaders of the United Automobile Workers and other Western labor unions, who say their members cannot compete with workers earning $100 a month in coastal Chinese provinces and who would earn half that at auto factories being built in inland provinces.
Following a path already blazed by Korea and Japan, China has built a large auto industry with increasingly high quality over the last decade while protecting its home market behind steep trade barriers. China still imposes a tariff of close to 30 percent on imported family vehicles, compared with American tariffs of 2.5 percent on imported cars, minivans and sport utility vehicles and 25 percent on pickup trucks.
What distinguishes China from its Asian rivals, however, is that China decided much earlier in its automotive development to welcome multinational companies - although only through joint ventures with Chinese manufacturers, who are rapidly learning the latest manufacturing and engineering techniques from their partners.
Particularly impressive, auto analysts said, has been the swift improvement in the quality of cars produced in China. Hironori Kanayama, president of the Honda subsidiary producing the cars here, exhorted employees at a ship-loading ceremony here to improve quality further.
"Our market is overseas," he said. "Our competitors are strong international automakers; we have to exceed them. Our only way out is to make products equal to or exceeding those made in Japan."
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Who me? Do I look worried?
Rob
XINSHA, China, June 24 - Honda Motor began loading cars onto a ship here on Friday for export to Europe in China's debut as a volume exporter of cars to the industrialized world.
The shipment follows DaimlerChrysler's disclosure two months ago at the Shanghai Auto Show that it was negotiating to build a factory near Beijing to make small cars for export to North America. It comes at the end of a week when the Haier Group's bid for Maytag and the China National Offshore Oil Corporation's bid for Unocal have fed Western concerns about China's rapid economic rise.
Automakers from around the globe, including General Motors, Ford Motor and Toyota Motor, are racing to build factories in China even as the rest of the world faces severe overcapacity in car manufacturing, raising the prospect that more factories may someday have to close in Western countries as Chinese exports grow.
China's swift development has already alarmed leaders of the United Automobile Workers and other Western labor unions, who say their members cannot compete with workers earning $100 a month in coastal Chinese provinces and who would earn half that at auto factories being built in inland provinces.
Following a path already blazed by Korea and Japan, China has built a large auto industry with increasingly high quality over the last decade while protecting its home market behind steep trade barriers. China still imposes a tariff of close to 30 percent on imported family vehicles, compared with American tariffs of 2.5 percent on imported cars, minivans and sport utility vehicles and 25 percent on pickup trucks.
What distinguishes China from its Asian rivals, however, is that China decided much earlier in its automotive development to welcome multinational companies - although only through joint ventures with Chinese manufacturers, who are rapidly learning the latest manufacturing and engineering techniques from their partners.
Particularly impressive, auto analysts said, has been the swift improvement in the quality of cars produced in China. Hironori Kanayama, president of the Honda subsidiary producing the cars here, exhorted employees at a ship-loading ceremony here to improve quality further.
"Our market is overseas," he said. "Our competitors are strong international automakers; we have to exceed them. Our only way out is to make products equal to or exceeding those made in Japan."
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Who me? Do I look worried?
Rob
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gmginsfo:
Rob, I'm VERY disappointed to hear that none of the GOPers would listen to you.
Rob, Next time tell them you're with Focus on the Family, Halliburton or Exxon.
Rob, I'm VERY disappointed to hear that none of the GOPers would listen to you.
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