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Charlie in the Trees
Here's an interesting editorial about the Unites States' failed nation-building and post-war quagmire, which appeared in the on-line Globe and Mail (which I believe is the relatively conservative newspaper in Toronto). The article, linked here, is titled \"Fables of the Reconstruction\":

The comment begins:
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Six months before, the world had cheered as the statues of the dictator came crashing down. The Americans had seemed heroic. But now things were going very badly. The occupation was chaotic, the American soldiers were hated and they were facing threats from the surviving supporters of the dictator, whose whereabouts were uncertain.

Washington seemed unwilling to pay the enormous bill for reconstruction, and the president didn't appear to have any kind of workable plan to manage the transition to democracy. European allies, distrustful of the arrogant American outlook, were wary of co-operating. To many, it looked like the victory had been betrayed, since the American values of democracy, equality and well-being seemed unlikely ever to emerge.
Scenes from a Howard Dean rally? Nope. Just some historical perspective from one of our few remaining friends north of the border. The next paragraph:
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That's how it looked in Germany in November, 1945. In our memories, history tends to become compressed: There was V-E Day, then the American soldiers were cheered by the people of Berlin, then the president announced that hundreds of millions would be spent on the Marshall Plan, then Germany became the prosperous and democratic place it is today.

That is not how things unfolded. The United States has always been good at removing dictators from power, but the tedious, dirty work we now call \"nation building\" has never come naturally, or quickly. The enormous success of European and Japanese reconstruction did not even begin to emerge until long years of pain and disorder had passed.
It's amazing how history repeats. Even the New York Times was carping back then about the post-war quagmire. Something to keep in mind next time someone complains about the "failures" in Iraq.
fantomas
Why not post contemporaneous descriptions of Vietnam and the situation there, or Korea?

The situations in post-World War II Germany and post-Iraq War II are not equivalent, just as the wars from which they originated are not equivalent, and the players and scenarios are hardly equivalent, even though conservatives keep trying to make them so. I certainly understand why they keep doing so, because the survival of this administration and its plans for the country hang in the balance.

At any rate, I sincerely hope that W and Co. come up with a viable plan for addressing the growing problems in Iraq. When foreign terrorists can range freely within our zones of occupation and kill US soldiers, Iraqis, UN representatives, Kurds, undercover American intelligence operatives, journalists, and anyone else they please, we're facing real problems, and all the pollyanna-ish depictions (like the staged toppling of statues or W's top gun stunt) of what's going on aren't going to change or transform the reality that the soldiers face.
p2insdca
CITT why am I not surprised you would compare a war that was declared on us by Hitler with a war we declared on Iraq.
twin58
Disclaimer: this is op-ed, not news.

Stuck Like Lyndon

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Stuck Like Lyndon

By Harold Meyerson
Wednesday, September 10, 2003; Page A19

So much for American unilateralism.

As our strategic doctrine of choice, unilateralism had a one-year run, from one Labor Day to the next. A year ago the administration announced we had both the right and the might to run the world free from the constraints of entangling alliances or multinational accords.

George W. Bush didn't repudiate that right in his speech to the nation on Sunday, but he did allow how we didn't have the might.
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Stuck in Iraq, stuck at home and the polling shows that the American people increasingly realize it and lay the blame on Bush.

Unilaterally.
p2insdca
I guess for the same reason you do not respond

[ September 16, 2003, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: p2insdca ]
jamesw
CITT, heres an interview from the Times (of London). They supported the war.

Link

Interesting to see the American forces on a learning curve. The Brits had historical experience of Iraq and its customs so have been paying blood money (whenever they kill Iraqis by mistake) from day one. From the interview it seems the American forces have started doing the same - although he cant bring himself to use the term (says "looking after the families").

He shouldnt be so coy. Its nothing to be ashamed of. In fact its the first rule of empire - respect local customs; dont try to rule according to your own values.

[ September 17, 2003, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: jamesw ]
p2insdca
comparing germany to iraq is like comparing apples to ( fill in the blank)
So I do not know if anyone has seen the pictures of the liberated Iraqis jumping for joy...at each ambushed convoy.
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