Full Version: Accused Spy is Cousin of Bush's Chief of Staff
More good news for the chimp....it turns out that the woman who has been charged with working for the Iraqi spy agency is the cousin of Bush's Chief of Staff, Andrew Card -- he of the "fetch me a cheeseburger, Andy" fame that W ordered him to deliver back in 2001.
"Hey Andy, fetch me a banana, oh yeah, and a spy."
This is just too funny. I love that you guys can find some way to make this reflect poorly on Bush without bothering to mention that this nutcase ("I did more to stop terrorism in this country than anybody else," she says) also worked for four Democrat members of Congress: Ron Wyden, Carol Mosely Braun, Peter DeFazio and Zoe Lofgren. "I'm anti-war and I'm innocent," she also says. Anti-war, pro-Saddam - very thin line there, regardless of one's family ties.
I would agree to some of what William1865 says in that if it is relevant that she is the cousin of Andrew Card, it is just as relevant that she worked for several Democrats. I just dont think it is relevant, though. If one of my relatives were involved in something like that, I do not see how I would be expected to know about it.
Predictably the liberal blogs/news sites emphasize her connection to the current bunch in the White House and the rightward ones make hay out of her Democratic connections. I did find it interesting that she is accused of conspiring with our new "friend", Libya....interesting.
Of course, it may turn out all to be a bunch of nothing, like all of the other "spies" we found in Guantanamo Bay, a big pile of nothing.
Predictably the liberal blogs/news sites emphasize her connection to the current bunch in the White House and the rightward ones make hay out of her Democratic connections. I did find it interesting that she is accused of conspiring with our new "friend", Libya....interesting.
Of course, it may turn out all to be a bunch of nothing, like all of the other "spies" we found in Guantanamo Bay, a big pile of nothing.
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William1865:
Anti-war, pro-Saddam - very thin line there, regardless of one's family ties.
So anyone who is anti-war is most likely pro-Saddam? Spoken like a true Bushie.
Anti-war, pro-Saddam - very thin line there, regardless of one's family ties.
This is hilarious! I guess the Monkey King will not be talking about this, either. However, they will continue to bring up her Democratic-connections...all the while distancing Andy McBurgler from her.
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Joe in Philly:
Wow, thanks Joe. The fact is if the anti-war people had their way, Saddam would be in power right now. That's not a judgement, it's just a fact.
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William1865:
Anti-war, pro-Saddam - very thin line there, regardless of one's family ties.
So anyone who is anti-war is most likely pro-Saddam? Spoken like a true Bushie. Anti-war, pro-Saddam - very thin line there, regardless of one's family ties.
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William1865:
Wow, thanks Joe. The fact is if the anti-war people had their way, Saddam would be in power right now. That's not a judgement, it's just a fact.
If the anti-war people had their way almost 600 of our fellow citizens would be alive right now instead of dying for a bunch of lies. That's a damn fact! :mad:Wow, thanks Joe. The fact is if the anti-war people had their way, Saddam would be in power right now. That's not a judgement, it's just a fact.
[ March 12, 2004, 07:59 AM: Message edited by: bobby78751 ]
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gamecock:
More good news for the chimp....it turns out that the woman who has been charged with working for the Iraqi spy agency is the cousin of Bush's Chief of Staff, Andrew Card -- he of the \"fetch me a cheeseburger, Andy\" fame that W ordered him to deliver back in 2001.
Gamecock, you left out a word, completely by accident, I'm sure - "distant." She's a "distant" cousin of Andy Card. Quick, do you have any distant cousins, Gamecock? Bobster? Raze? If so, what are they doing right now? You'd better know, and it had better be on the up and up, because as this story and the reaction to it here on the board shows, you're in some way responsible for their behavior. More good news for the chimp....it turns out that the woman who has been charged with working for the Iraqi spy agency is the cousin of Bush's Chief of Staff, Andrew Card -- he of the \"fetch me a cheeseburger, Andy\" fame that W ordered him to deliver back in 2001.
The fact that this woman is related to Andy Card is such a key element to this unfolding drama, such a critical aspect of this story, it is mentioned once - once! - in the actual story. Interesting.
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Wow, thanks Joe. The fact is if the anti-war people had their way, Saddam would be in power right now. That's not a judgement, it's just a fact.
Well, we do not know that it is a fact, unless someone has the power to see the future. However, the US would be just as safe now as it was when Saddam was in power, not to mention the several thousand Iraqis, 500 plus US soldiers would still be alive and several thousand additional soldiers would not be war casualties. For all of the loss of life and still the US ports, trains, airports, etc. are not any safer than they were on Sep 10, 2001. First response systems that were promised then left unfunded, police and fire department personnel that have not received new equipment, etc.
I dont really feel personally threatened, maybe because my life is so full of stuff, but I do not see nay reason to feel any safer. There are still lots of maniacs out there who hate America and I do not see how taking Saddam out has made much of a difference. I do feel that if the many promises to shore up home defensive systems were followed through on, I WOULD feel safer.
And as much as I fo not like the current administration, I would gladly give them my gratitude of they were effective in this area.
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William1865:
Gamecock, you left out a word, completely by accident, I'm sure - \"distant.\" She's a \"distant\" cousin of Andy Card. Quick, do you have any distant cousins, Gamecock? Bobster? Raze? If so, what are they doing right now? You'd better know, and it had better be on the up and up, because as this story and the reaction to it here on the board shows, you're in some way responsible for their behavior.
The fact that this woman is related to Andy Card is such a key element to this unfolding drama, such a critical aspect of this story, it is mentioned once - once! - in the actual story. Interesting.
Sort of like the Chimp's drugged-up neice, or his VD brother, or his boozin' daughters. Face it, these people are hypocrites to the nth degree and for them to be exposed as such is sweet revenge. Gamecock, you left out a word, completely by accident, I'm sure - \"distant.\" She's a \"distant\" cousin of Andy Card. Quick, do you have any distant cousins, Gamecock? Bobster? Raze? If so, what are they doing right now? You'd better know, and it had better be on the up and up, because as this story and the reaction to it here on the board shows, you're in some way responsible for their behavior.
The fact that this woman is related to Andy Card is such a key element to this unfolding drama, such a critical aspect of this story, it is mentioned once - once! - in the actual story. Interesting.
[ March 12, 2004, 08:03 AM: Message edited by: bobby78751 ]
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hummer:
First response systems that were promised then left unfunded, police and fire department personnel that have not received new equipment, etc.
I guess this is why you see Fire Fighter supports signs at EVERY John Kerry rally and not one at the W rallys.
First response systems that were promised then left unfunded, police and fire department personnel that have not received new equipment, etc.
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bobby78751:
Well, Bobster, if the US had never fought any wars, millions of people would still be alive. Imagine the lives we all could have saved by clasping hands and singing "Kumbaya." Makes me want some weed and incense. QUOTE
William1865:
Wow, thanks Joe. The fact is if the anti-war people had their way, Saddam would be in power right now. That's not a judgement, it's just a fact.
If the anti-war people had their way almost 600 of our fellow citizens would be alive right now instead of dying for a bunch of lies. That's a damn fact! :mad: Wow, thanks Joe. The fact is if the anti-war people had their way, Saddam would be in power right now. That's not a judgement, it's just a fact.
At any rate, your claim is hardly a fact. The anti-war peoples' assertion, as I understand and disagree with it, is that Iraq is a distraction from the "real" war on terror. Only the most ardent among you, I would think, are calling for the complete shutdown of all US military operations. So presumably, troops who died in Iraq would not have been out of harm's way, they would have simply been stationed in other dangerous locations - Afghanistan, for example, or other points in the middle east where anti-American sentiment runs high and really always has. Just look at the USS Cole - the 2000 bombing of which was President Bush's fault I'm sure. Funny you guys didn't get all worked up over that, but then at that point it wouldn't have helped John Kerry's campaign, so why bother? Whatever.
So, Bobster, wrong/hysterical as usual. Nice try, though. The little red face was cute.
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William1865:
Well, Bobster, if the US had never fought any wars, millions of people would still be alive. Imagine the lives we all could have saved by clasping hands and singing \"Kumbaya.\" Makes me want some weed and incense.
At any rate, your claim is hardly a fact. The anti-war peoples' assertion, as I understand and disagree with it, is that Iraq is a distraction from the \"real\" war on terror. Only the most ardent among you, I would think, are calling for the complete shutdown of all US military operations. So presumably, troops who died in Iraq would not have been out of harm's way, they would have simply been stationed in other dangerous locations - Afghanistan, for example, or other points in the middle east where anti-American sentiment runs high and really always has. Just look at the USS Cole - the 2000 bombing of which was President Bush's fault I'm sure. Funny you guys didn't get all worked up over that, but then at that point it wouldn't have helped John Kerry's campaign, so why bother? Whatever.
So, Bobster, wrong/hysterical as usual. Nice try, though. The little red face was cute.
Just more delusional rhetoric from William...we wouldn't expect less.
Well, Bobster, if the US had never fought any wars, millions of people would still be alive. Imagine the lives we all could have saved by clasping hands and singing \"Kumbaya.\" Makes me want some weed and incense.
At any rate, your claim is hardly a fact. The anti-war peoples' assertion, as I understand and disagree with it, is that Iraq is a distraction from the \"real\" war on terror. Only the most ardent among you, I would think, are calling for the complete shutdown of all US military operations. So presumably, troops who died in Iraq would not have been out of harm's way, they would have simply been stationed in other dangerous locations - Afghanistan, for example, or other points in the middle east where anti-American sentiment runs high and really always has. Just look at the USS Cole - the 2000 bombing of which was President Bush's fault I'm sure. Funny you guys didn't get all worked up over that, but then at that point it wouldn't have helped John Kerry's campaign, so why bother? Whatever.
So, Bobster, wrong/hysterical as usual. Nice try, though. The little red face was cute.
if the anti-war folks had their way, we'd have pictures of osama in captivity instead of saddam, and the world would truly be a safer place.
let's hope al qaeda doesn't succeed in another terrorist attack on the u.s., or kim jong il will be in big trouble!
let's hope al qaeda doesn't succeed in another terrorist attack on the u.s., or kim jong il will be in big trouble!
UH, wasnt Kerry the same guy who called sadaam a threat to the world just a few years back? Claimed he would be a nuke if he could? OH WAIT, billy bob was the pres then.. nevermind.
Actually wait, i do have a question.
Since you guys have made it clear that Iraq posed ZERO threat to the nation... what of all the bombing that Clinton did? I guess that was ok? You see when billy bob bombed Iraq, he also killed civilians. Much like you accused W of doing. That was ok?
i"m sure i have distant relatives who are scared of some of the things i do. Mosley skank and this bimbo fit together quite well.
Actually wait, i do have a question.
Since you guys have made it clear that Iraq posed ZERO threat to the nation... what of all the bombing that Clinton did? I guess that was ok? You see when billy bob bombed Iraq, he also killed civilians. Much like you accused W of doing. That was ok?
i"m sure i have distant relatives who are scared of some of the things i do. Mosley skank and this bimbo fit together quite well.
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PhillyFan:
UH, wasnt Kerry the same guy who called sadaam a threat to the world just a few years back? Claimed he would be a nuke if he could? OH WAIT, billy bob was the pres then.. nevermind.
Actually wait, i do have a question.
Since you guys have made it clear that Iraq posed ZERO threat to the nation... what of all the bombing that Clinton did? I guess that was ok? You see when billy bob bombed Iraq, he also killed civilians. Much like you accused W of doing. That was ok?
Okay, not that I was ever in a love-fest for FillyPhan, but the love-fest is officially over! Bill Clinton did not have hundreds of Americans killed based on a lie like W has done. Bill sent planes in ONLY when Saddam was violating the flight restrictions.
UH, wasnt Kerry the same guy who called sadaam a threat to the world just a few years back? Claimed he would be a nuke if he could? OH WAIT, billy bob was the pres then.. nevermind.
Actually wait, i do have a question.
Since you guys have made it clear that Iraq posed ZERO threat to the nation... what of all the bombing that Clinton did? I guess that was ok? You see when billy bob bombed Iraq, he also killed civilians. Much like you accused W of doing. That was ok?
Check your facts booby....
the dems lined up and towed the line of how sadaam and his weapons programs were a threat to the world. Please keep up.
the dems lined up and towed the line of how sadaam and his weapons programs were a threat to the world. Please keep up.
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PhillyFan:
Check your facts booby....
the dems lined up and towed the line of how sadaam and his weapons programs were a threat to the world. Please keep up.
That's too easy. They lined up and toed the line based on flawed, if not fabricated, intelligence foisted upon them by the administration. It's not like Congress has an independent intelligence agency it can turn to to corroborate what the President (or his political minions) is telling the CIA to tell them.
Check your facts booby....
the dems lined up and towed the line of how sadaam and his weapons programs were a threat to the world. Please keep up.
So you are saying that in oh... 3 years W fired everyone at the CIA put in his own people, who then fabricated 10-15 years of information they had on Iraq?
Or are you saying that the CIA gave Bush 1 bad info... Clinton bad info and W bad info...
But the only bad info the was used was the bad info that W used... except it's all his fault... eventhough everyone else bombed that country on the same information....
Please tell me which it is... Cause Kerry used this CIA information to call Sadaam a threat to the world just a few years ago idiots.
Or are you saying that the CIA gave Bush 1 bad info... Clinton bad info and W bad info...
But the only bad info the was used was the bad info that W used... except it's all his fault... eventhough everyone else bombed that country on the same information....
Please tell me which it is... Cause Kerry used this CIA information to call Sadaam a threat to the world just a few years ago idiots.
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jqueer:
Assuming all this is true - which it's not - but assuming it is for the sake of argument, one can conclude that John Kerry and his fellow Democrats in Congress are gullible and easily duped. Perhaps the Senator from Massachusetts would like to buy a bridge, or some ocean-front property near PhillyFan in Arizona. No doubt his wife can afford the down payment...
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PhillyFan:
Check your facts booby....
the dems lined up and towed the line of how sadaam and his weapons programs were a threat to the world. Please keep up.
That's too easy. They lined up and toed the line based on flawed, if not fabricated, intelligence foisted upon them by the administration. It's not like Congress has an independent intelligence agency it can turn to to corroborate what the President (or his political minions) is telling the CIA to tell them. Check your facts booby....
the dems lined up and towed the line of how sadaam and his weapons programs were a threat to the world. Please keep up.
I got some... ocean front property in Arizoooona... from my front porch you can see... the sea....
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