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RazorbackTX
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=88...843&sd=06/03/03
Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of U.S. vice president Dick Cheney, has resigned from the board of the Republican Unity Coalition slightly more than one year after taking on the largely honorary post with the gay-straight political alliance.

"Working together, we can expand the Republican Party's outreach to nontraditional Republicans," she said in a statement when she signed on with RUC in April 2002. "We can make sexual orientation a nonissue for the Republican Party, and we can help achieve equality for all gay and lesbian Americans."
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Sexual orientation a "nonissue" for the republican party???!!! Thats hilarious. Has she been smoking weed with the twins or what?
Maybe she'll go be a doormat for LCR now, or back to the undisclosed location with daddy.
hockeyTom
Raze, that "undisclosed location" you spoke of is the closet!!!! tongue.gif biggrin.gif eek!
RazorbackTX
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puckman1:
Raze, that \"undisclosed location\" you spoke of is the closet!!!! tongue.gif biggrin.gif eek!
Is that where that "big tent" is tucked away???
GatorJamie
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RazorbackTX:
Is that where that \"big tent\" is tucked away???
No, Raze, the Big Tent is where the Iraqis keep the WOMD. That's why we can't find them...
RazorbackTX
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GatorJamie:
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RazorbackTX:
Is that where that \"big tent\" is tucked away???
No, Raze, the Big Tent is where the Iraqis keep the WOMD. That's why we can't find them...
Good one, I wish I would have thought of that! It must be a REAL big tent since there are "hundreds of tons" of WOMD in there.
HornFan
Isn't it heartwarming and reassuring to see just what can be done for Gay rights while working within the Republican Party? Do you think her being the VP's Daughter hindered her influence? rolleyes.gif

Thanks Mary, for the HUGE strides made in just over a year at the RUC. We just couldn't have done it without ya baby!

The same link had a BETTER story about a BETTER Republican. biggrin.gif

Tuesday, June 03, 2003
Former Republican joins Stonewall Democrats Caucus

The National Stonewall Democrats, a gay political group, on Monday welcomed New Hampshire state representative Corey Corbin of Rockingham as the newest member of the NSD Elected Officials Caucus. Corbin, who was previously a Republican, changed party affiliation last week in the wake of the well-publicized antigay comments made to the Associated Press by U.S. senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

"Being a gay man and, up until this week, a Republican, those comments truly summed up for me the attitude of the GOP toward the millions of gay men and women who work, raise families, pay taxes, and contribute to our society," Corbin said. "We are hated, we are marginalized and are basically unwanted by a party that has forsaken the principles of Abraham Lincoln and become dominated by a right wing that falls far short of representing mainstream America."

Corbin was first elected to the New Hampshire house of representatives in 2000. There, he was appointed the Republican whip of the house labor and industry committee. At 33, Corbin is one of the youngest members of the state legislature.

"We're excited to welcome Corey into our Elected Officials Caucus," said Dave Noble, NSD executive director. "As a former Republican, he is able to vocalize the strong differences that exist between the two major parties on issues of equality."

[ June 03, 2003, 06:49 PM: Message edited by: HornFan ]
charliecstl
Now, there is a Republican I could have supported. Abe was, by far, the most compassionate Republican ever to grace the Oval Office. And he accomplished a few good things for this country, despite the Radical Republican led Congress.

You don't suppose Ms. Cheney decided to leave because of the incredible sham the whole "Republicans and gays interfacing" thing was? I would imagine that anybody would have grown weary at some point of the whole fiasco.

Everyone has a right to their beliefs and political inclinations. Just don't try and call something what it isn't. If you are comfortable with the Republicans treating us as invisible and unworthy, that is certainly your right. Just don't try and tell us that it is leading to change and we are the ones who don't understand what is going on.
RazorbackTX
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HornFan:
Isn't it heartwarming and reassuring to see just what can be done for Gay rights while working within the Republican Party? Do you think her being the VP's Daughter hindered her influence? rolleyes.gif

Thanks Mary, for the HUGE strides made in just over a year at the RUC. We just couldn't have done it without ya baby!
I agree, we owe you "big time" Mary, all the "working within" really paid off, we are so grateful for all your hard work and accomplishments.
CPT_Doom
Let's not come down to hard on Mary Cheney - we have no idea of the kind of pressure she is under, given the position her family has put her in. I mean, imagine having privately supportive parents (apparently they are) who publically refuse to admit you are gay. That has to be tough. Not to mention having to be civil to some of the virulent homophobes in the Bush Administration because her Dad is the VP, and seeing her sister and her sister's children touted as the best thing since sliced bread while she is relegated to the dim shadows.

I have no idea how politically active she was before, when she was with Coors, for instance, but just because she is the VP's daughter does not obligate her to publically lobby against the party's policies. Sure I would love to see her acting like another Candace Gingrinch, and really sticking it to the anti-gay conservatives, but that may not be realistic given her personality and the situation she is in.
GatorJamie
Very good points, CPT (as usual). smile.gif

But I still like driving past the Naval Observatory and strongly suspecting that its walls have seen some lesbian action. biggrin.gif
DCBucky
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GatorJamie:
But I still like driving past the Naval Observatory and strongly suspecting that its walls have seen some lesbian action. biggrin.gif
Hey GJ -- yeah, like Susan Ford? Karena Gore? Dorothy Bush Koch (with a name like that, she must be bi!) Eleanor Mondale? (I actually thought she was sorta cute -- for a girl -- didn't she marry some jock?) biggrin.gif

[ June 04, 2003, 09:40 AM: Message edited by: DCBucky ]
GatorJamie
OMG, I had the BIGGEST crush on Susan Ford when I was a kid. Too bad no gay vibe there. But you just know that Mary and Heather have gotten jiggy wi' it on Mass. Ave...
CPT_Doom
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OMG, I had the BIGGEST crush on Susan Ford when I was a kid. Too bad no gay vibe there. But you just know that Mary and Heather have gotten jiggy wi' it on Mass. Ave...
Damn, I was hoping they got jiggy wi' it (I am way to suburban to be using that terminology) in the Lincoln bedroom!
RGMike
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GatorJamie:
OMG, I had the BIGGEST crush on Susan Ford when I was a kid. Too bad no gay vibe there.
Actually, Jack Ford was the gay one in that family...
Kona Guy
i'm really disappointed that Mary left the RUC. Someone has to stand up to the religious right and i thought she had the perfect opportunity to do so.
DC-Buckeye
Immediately after the Rick Santorum debacle, there was a HUGE editorial in the Washington Blade saying that the fact that Mary Cheney is remaining silent during these times of overt gay bashing by GOPers is totally unforgivable and that she needs to stand up and do something for the gay community. So perhaps this is her way of responding to that call for action.
DCBucky
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GatorJamie:
OMG, I had the BIGGEST crush on Susan Ford when I was a kid. Too bad no gay vibe there. But you just know that Mary and Heather have gotten jiggy wi' it on Mass. Ave...
I just realized I erred by inferring that Susan Ford spent time in the VP Mansion on Mass Avenue -- there wasn't one until Ford was President. Vice President Rockfeller spent but one night there (on his notorious mink Max Ernst bed!) -- and the Mondales were the first Second Family to actually take up residence.

.. meanwhile, back to Mary Cheney ...
Jim Allen
Tee hee.

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Hey! I want to become a "professional homosexual". I'll be cheaper than Mary Cheney, $40,000/year would do me fine.
Allen
Jim ... you're evil. I love it!! biggrin.gif
hockeyTom
I truly feel for Mary, unfortunately she looks just like her Daddy. frown
bobby78751
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puckman1:
I truly feel for Mary, unfortunately she looks just like her Daddy. sad.gif
Yes, I notice the receding hairline, too.
NoLongerHere
Riddle me this:
Why the f**k hasn't Diane Sawyer or Barbara Walters or SOMEONE snagged Mary Mary for a scorching primetime interview?!?!
RazorbackTX
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The B Man:
Riddle me this:
Why the f**k hasn't Diane Sawyer or Barbara Walters or SOMEONE snagged Mary Mary for a scorching primetime interview?!?!
She holed up with daddy in their undisclosed location.
William1865
ECHO...ECho...echo...
Lksimcoe
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RazorbackTX:
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The B Man:
Riddle me this:
Why the f**k hasn't Diane Sawyer or Barbara Walters or SOMEONE snagged Mary Mary for a scorching primetime interview?!?!
She holed up with daddy in their undisclosed location.
You do realize that your last line can be taken MANY MANY ways.

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RazorbackTX
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William1865:
ECHO...ECho...echo...
WORKing FRom within.....
Undercenter
If Kerry picks Gephardt for VP, the best part of the VP debate would be defib-Dick and Gephardt talking about their Lesbian daughters - and why TrickyDick2 supports second class citizenship for his own kid.
smalltownboy
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/p...olitics/2635410

Ad targets Cheney's lesbian daughter
Says she sells out to help dad again
By ELIZABETH WOLFE
Associated Press

"WASHINGTON -- A campaign to compel the vice president's lesbian daughter to oppose a proposed ban on gay marriage is launching its first Internet ad on Monday.

A series of simply animated cartoon panels features stick figures of Mary Cheney and Vice President Dick Cheney. One image reads, "Dick's daughter sold out to help Dick run again."

The story line refers to Mary Cheney's job as director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign.

She held a public role as her father's assistant in the 2000 campaign and helped the GOP recruit homosexual voters during the 2002 midterm elections.

She has been less visible this year while traveling with the vice president or working at campaign headquarters in Arlington, Va.

President Bush, meanwhile, has disturbed many gays, Republicans included, by asking Congress to move on a constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage in the United States.

"They've clearly made the decision to keep her in the closet for this campaign," said John Aravosis, who in February launched the Web-based campaign www.DearMary.com, which started running the ad on Friday.

"They clearly understand the contradiction between having a lesbian run the vice president's campaign at the same time they want to bash gays in the Constitution."

Nicolle Devenish, communications director for the Bush campaign, called Mary Cheney "a tremendous asset to the campaign" and dismissed tactics such as going after a politician's offspring.

"I think any group's actions are going to speak for themselves," she said.

Devenish said Mary Cheney will become more visible as the election nears, though she would not comment whether the vice president's daughter would be reaching out to gay voters or Republicans who oppose the amendment."

NJ
HornFan
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Nicolle Devenish, communications director for the Bush campaign, called Mary Cheney \"a tremendous asset to the campaign\" and dismissed tactics such as going after a politician's offspring.
She's MUCH more than a politician's offspring, she's on his campaign payroll. She's made a living in part due to her sexuality (@ Coors) is a past member of the RUC. We need to hear from her on this issue.

Tough noogies Mary.

[ June 20, 2004, 09:01 PM: Message edited by: HornFan ]
bear321
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GatorJamie:
Very good points, CPT (as usual). smile.gif

But I still like driving past the Naval Observatory and strongly suspecting that its walls have seen some lesbian action. biggrin.gif
GatorJamie, you crack me up. I am laughing so hard right now my staff in the other office are peeking around the corner at me. One even said. "I'll have what you're having." biggrin.gif
DCBucky
So Mary Cheney and her gf Heather Poe attended the White House dinner for Prince Charles and his wife last evening. Is this a first for a GOP WH?

Time for Bucky to head over to Focus on the Family (better named by someone on this board ages ago: "Focus on Your Own Damn Family) or Concerned Women of America discussion boards and pretend to be outraged!
gmginsfo
DCB, I believe that William Haines, former actor turned decorator and longtime Reagan confidante - he was chosen to redo the London embassy - and his partner were fairly frequent guests at the WH. I can't say they got kid glove treatment, but at least they didn't get the latex glove job that Clinton's WH gave those folks from HRC back during his time. All was quickly forgiven and forgotten in that case, perhaps too much so.
theodoresdaddy
latex glove?

please explain
RazorbackTX
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gmginsfo:
DCB, I believe that William Haines, former actor turned decorator and longtime Reagan confidante - he was chosen to redo the London embassy - and his partner were fairly frequent guests at the WH. I can't say they got kid glove treatment, but at least they didn't get the latex glove job that Clinton's WH gave those folks from HRC back during his time. All was quickly forgiven and forgotten in that case, perhaps too much so.
Hey gmg - How's that Republican Unity Coalition
working out?
gmginsfo
Theo, there was an incident at Clinton's WH when a group of gay activists once visited; no one from Log Cabin was invited, BTW. At any rate, once there, they were greeted by guards who performed the usual security check in an unusual way: by wearing latex gloves. There was a brief stink about it, but since it was a Demo WH that was involved, the matter was quickly hushed up by the same groups whose leaders had been subjected to this indignity.

What's the expression? "Move along, nothing to see?"
RazorbackTX
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gmginsfo:
Theo, there was an incident at Clinton's WH when a group of gay activists once visited; no one from Log Cabin was invited, BTW. At any rate, once there, they were greeted by guards who performed the usual security check in an unusual way: by wearing latex gloves. There was a brief stink about it, but since it was a Demo WH that was involved, the matter was quickly hushed up by the same groups whose leaders had been subjected to this indignity.

What's the expression? \"Move along, nothing to see?\"
How's that Republican Unity Coalition working out?
fantomas
Given how much influence and power Phyllis Schlafly, James Dobson, Lou Sheldon, Pat Robertson, and the other raving homophobes are still wielding, it doesn't look like "working within" is working, at least not with the RNC, the GOP Congress, or the White House.
swiminbuff
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fantomas:
Given how much influence and power Phyllis Schlafly, James Dobson, Lou Sheldon, Pat Robertson, and the other raving homophobes are still wielding, it doesn't look like \"working within\" is working, at least not with the RNC, the GOP Congress, or the White House.
They must have had a fit reading about Mary and her girlfriend going to the WH for Charles and Camilla's dinner party.
MPetrelis
Advocate.com
8 June 06
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid32039.asp

Mary Cheney's book sells fewer than 6,000 copies since release

Despite saturation media coverage when it was published a month ago, Mary
Cheney's book Now It's My Turn has tanked at bookstores. Published by a
conservative imprint of Simon & Schuster, the memoir has sold fewer than
6,000 copies to date, according to Nielsen Bookscan. [snip]


I never would have expected to sell more than 60 copies, 600 tops. Shocked it sold any where near 6,000. The girl may soon be back at Coors, slinging beer and lies for the brewery. Guess the poor girl's silence this week as the Prez and Senate screwed and demonized us was because it wasn't her turn to speak out about the lies spewed at us. She'll need another checked waved in front of her nose before she opens her mouth again.

[ June 08, 2006, 11:44 PM: Message edited by: MPetrelis ]
RazorbackTX
Fewer than 6,000?
Holy shit, how humiliating!

Dick and Lynn probably bought about 5,800; the membership of Uncle Tom's Log Cabin picked up
the rest.

Way to go Mary!

[ June 09, 2006, 06:19 AM: Message edited by: RazorbackTX ]
fantomas
I actually thought it would sell about 10,000 or 15,000 copies. Why didn't the Log Cabineers buy a bunch in bulk to help their girl out? Her whole situation strikes me as sad and bizarre; didn't she tell one of the media interviewers that she and her lesbian partner were basically married, and that eventually when the laws changed--as if they'd do this by osmosis, or something--they'd formally get married? WHERE, Mary? Massachusetts, Canada, "Old Europe"? Implicit was the idea that there was no ongoing, active vituperative Republican (or political) opposition to gay marriage, and that the laws would simply flip at some point. Maybe once you pass through the looking-glass....
aquaman
Maybe each gay person who is fool enough to still be a Republican bought one copy? biggrin.gif

Seriously, who was going to buy this? The Exodus types? Jeff Gannon? The 7 people living in some survivalist bunker in Idaho since Y2K who still support her dad?

Maybe her dismal sales and last week's amendment debacle have finally tipped off Mary that there aren't many accepting social moderates remaining on her side of the aisle and that many would prefer that she and her "wife" shut up and get back in that closet?

[ June 09, 2006, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: aquaman ]
MPetrelis
I hope the publisher asks for the advance money to be returned and that Mary finds some courage to speak in favor of gay equality, even when she's not hawking some lame book no one wants to read.
gmginsfo
You look thru that glass too darkly, FT; no wonder all you can do is criticize the woman - and anyone else who doesn't buy into your failed ideas of how things should be done. To hear you and the rest of your confrontationalista cohorts tell it, by following your advice, we should all be in Jerusalem by now. So how is it some see us still stranded in the desert?

Much as we were urged to do with Chelsea, "leave her alone" - and spare the rest of us your cheap juvenile shots while you're at it. You (pl.) harping critics of LCR and the GOP don't know what you're talking about in terms of our tactics or what we're doing - and when we offer the information to you, you either ignore it or deride it. So think on the story of the little red hen - and don't come sniffin' 'round our back door when dinner's done.

Oh yeah, enjoy the weekend! biggrin.gif
Ms. de Blazer
I thought that Chelsea Clinton should have been "left alone" when she was 12 years old, her father had just been elected and the jackasses who call themselves radio commentators were lining up to call her "ugly". That was, and is, garbage.
Mary Cheney took a leadership role in her father's campaign and just wrote a book defending her actions. If someone starts calling her "ugly" I will say they are out of line. If someone says she is delusional to expect acceptance from those who came to power based on hating her, I think that is correct.
aquaman
Chelsea Clinton: a grammar school kid who was ripped to shreds through snarky media and pundit comments just because she wasn't Gerber-baby cute...

v.

Mary Cheney: adult woman who profited by being the lesbian daughter of a powerful politician and who continuously acted as an apologist for a political party who sought to permanently legislate her and millions like her (though less affluent and with almost no access to power) into permanent second class status.

Yeah. Same thing.
UCLAfan
Mary Cheney, what a poor soul. To pander so obviously to those who would rather see her and her "kind" stamped out of existence is beyond stupidity. She is just stupid. The Republican party will never accept her wholeheartedly. If her own father won't accept wholeheartedly in public, what hope does she have that the GOP will? Let's be realistic here.
RazorbackTX
Did he really just compare Chelsea Clinton and Mary Cheney??!!??

gmg - time to bump up the meds, senility is kicking in
boomer400
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MPetrelis:
The girl may soon be back at Coors, slinging beer and lies for the brewery.
Yeah, she has to go around telling people that Coors is a good beer! Talk about lacking moral scruples.
millerbeach
Oh, gmginsfo, say it ain't so...you cannot be serious in your comparison of Chelsea Clinton and Mary Cheney. One was a child, the other an adult. If you can't tell the difference between the two, you had best high-tail it to the nearest eye doctor.

[ June 11, 2006, 10:42 PM: Message edited by: millerbeach ]
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