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hockeyTom
So Brownie is putting most of the blame on Louisiana and other gulf coast officials when it comes to what happened or didn't happen, in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. To be fair, yes some of the local officials could have done a better job, but how typical of this cronie rather than to accept most of the blame, pass the buck. From what I am reading on msnbc, he is getting one hell of a tongue lashing by Congressman, and rightly so!
RazorbackTX
When will he be getting his promotion and Medal of Freedom?
hockeyTom
No shit!
George Twins fan
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puckman1:
To be fair, yes some of the local officials could have done a better job,  
While I agree that the feds f**ked up big time, this is a huge understatement. The mayor and governor are both monumentally unqualified and they are running perhaps the most historically corrupt city and state in the nation. That doesn't forgive or excuse the FEMA and feds screwing up, but the locals are the ones who started rolling the snowball down the side of the mountain.
fantomas
So how do you explain the total disaster that followed Hurricane Katrina's aftermath in Mississippi, where it took FEMA over a week to reach some of the major cities and nearly two weeks to reach some small towns and areas?

Can't blame that on Blanco and Nagin.

[ September 27, 2005, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: fantomas ]
swiminbuff
What value is his testimony since he has admitted that he is still on the federal payroll as a Consultant to FEMA? Hardly an independent voice.
George Twins fan
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fantomas:
So how do you explain the total disaster that followed Hurricane Katrina's aftermath in Mississippi, where it took FEMA over a week to reach some of the major cities and nearly two weeks to reach some small towns and areas?  

Can't blame that on Blanco and Nagin.
Are you able to blame Nagin or Blanco for anything? Jeez, if you read what I wrote, I said FEMA, Bush, Brown, Babs and Laura Bush and lots of others f**ked up. Hell even Nagin today admitted that the local and state governements bungled things.

As for who gets what % of the blame, well who knows. We may never know. But this constant excusing of Nagin and Blanco from any responsibility is just wrong.

I wonder if those of you who are so quick to excuse Nagin and Blanco would be so willing if they were Republicans? Yet another thing that we'll never know.
fantomas
No, I'm not excusing them, but at the same time, what about that fat Republican powermonger Haley Barbour? I never hear any criticism of him, even though his state is smaller and less populated, yet over 200 people died there, he had no evacuation plan to speak of, he couldn't get any guardspeople in to help any faster than Louisiana, and he was "in touch" with W from the get-go. So please, if you're going to criticize the mayor of New Orleans, who is a big Republican supporter anyways (and look what it brought him!), and the governor of Louisiana, then at least attribute blame to Barbour, who was no paragon of excellence either.

Saying all of that, Brownie was totally incompetent. In addition to lying on his resume, for which many people in far lesser jobs are SUMMARILY FIRED, he failed miserably, miserably, and hundreds of people lost their lives and livelihoods as a result. So really, even assigning blame to the troika of Blanco-Nagin-Barbour, that doesn't excuse Brownie, Chertoff, or worst of all, the inept President Katrina himself, who could not be bothered to break his vacation until the last minute, or the Vice President, who didn't get his sick ass back to Washington until Thursday or Friday. Nations who wanted to help out had to deal with a rudderless State Department, since Kindasleezzy was Spamalotting it up and dropping thousands on shoes until she was shamed back to Washington. Not that any of them could have done a better job than Brownie, though. Just look at Iraq!
KeyWest Guy
So Brownie says he "misspoke" when he claimed the federal government didn't know there were evacuees at the New Orleans convention center.

Is that the same thing as a lie??? rolleyes.gif
kalabro
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So Brownie says he \"misspoke\" when he claimed the federal government didn't know there were evacuees at the New Orleans convention center.

Is that the same thing as a lie??? [Roll Eyes]
Why, KeyWestGuy, it's the God's Honest Truth! WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA??

See, everything is logical when you speak Republican.
fantomas
Brownie IS STILL ON THE FEMA PAYROLL!!! Is there no end to this farce?

Carpetbagger: Brownie still on FEMA payroll

On top of which, at the recent Congressional hearings on Hurricane Katrina, Brownie's deputy in the region testified that Brownie repeatedly ignored urgent messages and and one point blew him off because...he had to get dinner! People are hungry, thirsty, drowning, fearing for their lives and Brownie's...got to eat! "A heckuva job" indeed! GOP values at work!

WaPo: Brownie ignored repeated warnings

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For 16 critical hours, Federal Emergency Management Agency officials, including former director Michael D. Brown, dismissed urgent eyewitness accounts by FEMA's only staffer in New Orleans that Hurricane Katrina had broken the city's levee system the morning of Aug. 29 and was causing catastrophic flooding, the staffer told the Senate yesterday.
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About 7 p.m. Aug. 29, Bahamonde said, he called Brown and warned him of \"massive flooding,\" that 20,000 people were short of food and water at the Superdome and that thousands of people were standing on roofs or balconies seeking rescue.

Brown replied only: \"Thank you. I'm going to call the White House,\" Bahamonde said.
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At 11:20 a.m. Aug. 31, Bahamonde e-mailed Brown, \"Sir, I know that you know the situation is past critical . . . thousands gathering in the streets with no food or water . . . estimates are many will die within hours.\"

At 2:27 p.m., however, Brown press secretary Sharon Worthy wrote colleagues to schedule an interview for Brown on MSNBC's \"Scarborough Country\" and to give him more time to eat dinner because Baton Rouge restaurants were getting busy: \"He needs much more that [sic] 20 or 30 minutes.\"

Bahamonde e-mailed a friend to \"just tell [Worthy] that I just ate an MRE . . . along with 30,000 other close friends so I understand her concern.\"
ung
it's all out thre now with his flip and idiotic e-mails during and after Katrina.

(after being told people are running out of food and water and death is highly probable) "Thanks for the update. Anything I need to tweak?"

"I am a fashion God..."

"You looked fabulous.. and not just your make up.."


"Thanks I got it at Nordstrom..."

especially with the messages about his clothes and being a "fashion god"... I'm gonna voice something the conservatives don't wanna ask because they don't want to thinhk about republicans in this manner..... and what the liberals don't wanna say because they don't wanna seem homophobic.....


But is Michael Brown gay????? I mean... is he married? what's his domestic situation? What straight man goes on and on about his outfits and where he bought them and that he is a "fashion God"?

That is the thing that keeps popping into my mind again and again and I can't believe that no one else has mentioned it.
thersis
oooh i love spreading a good rumour!

actually, there is not one word about a wife or family in his official fema biography.
twin58
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Brown

says: "Brown is currently married and has two children."
Neptune
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ung:
\"I am a fashion God...\"

\"You looked fabulous.. and not just your make up..\"

\"Thanks I got it at Nordstrom...\"
Metrosexual? But I thought that went out of style two years ago.
ung
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twin58:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Brown

says: \"Brown is currently married and has two children.\"
I once dated a guy who was married..... nuff said..... eek!
canmark
Tonight, PBS airs two features on Katrina and the aftermath.

The Storm that Drowned A City

and Frontline: the Storm, which promises "extended interviews with Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, and others on the ground in New Orleans; former FEMA Directors Michael Brown and James Lee Witt; national security experts Richard Clarke and Warren Rudman; and others."

Apparently, Brownie tries to spin all his failures. And fails. For example, he says that he intentionally misled the public... to prevent panic. rolleyes.gif

Blanco and Nagin also get their opportunity to shift the blame...
fenwayguy
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canmark:
Frontline: the Storm, which promises \"extended interviews with Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, and others on the ground in New Orleans; former FEMA Directors Michael Brown and James Lee Witt; national security experts Richard Clarke and Warren Rudman; and others.\"
Freakin' sleaze Michael Brown is still lying. MUTE!
sportinlife
More improtantly the guy is still collecting a healthy paycheck at our (the taxpayers') expense.
thersis
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sportinlife:
More improtantly the guy is still collecting a healthy paycheck at our (the taxpayers') expense.
actually, according to CNN , he's not....
sportinlife
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thersis:
 
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sportinlife:
More improtantly the guy is still collecting a healthy paycheck at our (the taxpayers') expense.
actually, according to CNN , he's not....
That's a relief.

I would be nice if he were to donate some of the salary we paid to the Katrina victims he derided.
Di
I loved when he tried to explain how he managed to misspeak 3x about not knowing about the people at the Superdome until he heard it on the news! When pressed for how he could possibly do this 3x, his only excuse was to say (paraphrased) to the Frontline host "well, let's say I put you in charge of a great tragedy like New Orleans and see how you respond". rolleyes.gif

This is what we can expect when cronies are put in very important positions!! :mad:
George Twins fan
If I hadn't read this on MSNBC.com or heard it on Countdown with Keith Olbermann, I would swear it was s story from The Onion. Brownie is going to start a new disaster preparedness consulting firm in Colorado!

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“If I can help people focus on preparedness, how to be better prepared in their homes and better prepared in their businesses — because that goes straight to the bottom line — then I hope I can help the country in some way,” Brown told the Rocky Mountain News for its Thursday editions.

Brown said officials need to “take inventory” of what’s going on in a disaster to be able to answer questions to avoid appearing unaware of how serious a situation is.

“Hurricane Katrina showed how bad disasters can be, and there’s an incredible need for individuals and businesses to understand how important preparedness is,” he said.
Brownie's Got a Heck of a New Job
Joe in Philly
I'm going to start a consulting firm too, and charge just 50 bucks for my services. My advice will be, "Look at what Brownie did, and DO THE OPPOSITE!" rolleyes.gif
millerbeach
You've got to admit, this Brownie sure takes lemons and makes lemonaide! What a total fraud. I hope he falls flat on his ass when he realizes he will actually have to work for a living. I was dumbfounded when I heard this over the weekend. To the poster whom mentioned it sounds like it's from The Onion, I couldn't have said it any better. I too thought it was a joke of some sort, but our station does not do humor of any sort. Inadvertantly, news sometimes does take on a humorous flavor, such as in this case. You'd think Brownie would go back to judging show dogs!
dinger
Well, he's got to support that wardrobe habit somehow. Poor man, when all you have is image and no substance, what is there left to do but consult?
Lksimcoe
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dinger:
Well, he's got to support that wardrobe habit somehow.  Poor man, when all you have is image and no substance, what is there left to do but consult?
You forgot The Presidential Medal of Freedom. He screwed up so badly, surely he'll get one of those first, doncha think?

THEN, he'll be a lobbyist
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