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HotlantaTarheel
I certainly hope MIB moves along because this is going to be the last time I correct him:

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Uh, excuse me, genius, but low-lying brush and all IS open land. BTW, I've never seen brush a few feet high obstruct the sun like you somehow think it does.

Were there mountains there? No. Trees that obstructed the sun? No.
1. The EXPERT who LIVES THERE said the area was full of mesquite. Mesquite can grow to 20 feet, that is not "low-lying" as you stated.

2. No one said anything about the trees blocking the sun, so I'm not sure why you got into a sissy fit over it. However since you bring it up and as #1 points out, trees that grow to 20 feet can indeed block out the sun if its low on the horizon, such as near sunset.
George Twins fan
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fantomas:
Excuse me, but I wasn't be condescending, but was responding to your comparison, which was simply off. If you want to talk about our last Democratic Vice President, then do so. Or VP Mondale, or Humphrey, etc. But mentioning movie actors and comparing them to the Vice President is just ridiculous. There is no comparison whatsoever, whatever their political party.

I would be just as disgusted if a Democratic Vice President had done the same thing, so please do not make blanket statements about all Democrats or people who are criticizing the actions of this incompetent, corrupt Vice President.


I do not see Republicans criticizing Cheney publicly for what was an obvious series of very bad judgments. Had he fessed up right away I don't think most people would criticize him so much. But waiting 5 days to tell a story that is full of holes is highly problematic.
First of all, my bringing up the actors was to show how morons like Bill O'Reilly and his Fox Friends would be acting towards them. They'd be calling for some random Hollywood actor to be imprisoned for doing the same thing Cheney did, while blaming the media for making mountains out of molehills in the case of the VP. As for Cheney being held to some higher standard, when it comes to shooting someone (accidentally or not), everybody should be held to the same ridiculously high standard. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

Secondly reread what I said. I did not make a blanket statement. I used the word MOST, not ALL. If you are not part of the MOST, good on you. Welcome to the club.

And finally, there were a number of Republicans in Congress who basically pressured Cheney to finally speak. Too little too late? Perhaps. But this was reported on numerous news shows on CNN and MSNBC over the past couple of days. While they should be all over him for not speaking up earlier, let's not hold our breath. But I don't recall there being a huge number of Democrats who criticized Clinton for lying about Monica Lewinsky or stoenwalling on Whitewater.

Which brings me to my original point in general. Most (and again, note I said most) people view things like this while wearing their partisan blinders. I'm sure if you could somehow drudge up the Monica Lewinsky and other realted threads, I'll bet alot of the same people here calling for Cheney's head were saying the media blew Clinton's perjury way out of proportion. If you expect elected officials to be held to a higher standard, then Clinton's lying to a grand jury should have outraged each and every one of us. But I doubt that was the case.
shawnq
Sort of funny. As pointed out by Keith Olberman on the Dan Patrick show today: Here's part of Cheney's victim's statement:
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We all assume certain risks in whatever we do, whatever activities we pursue. And regardless of how experienced, careful and dedicated we are, accidents do and will happen – and that’s what happened last Friday.
But wasn't he shot on Saturday?
Ms. de Blazer
Yes, he really did apologize for getting shot.

Breaking news:

Nancy Kerrigan apologized to Tonya Harding for all the embarrassment that Harding suffered when she hired a hit man to whack Kerrigan's knees.

P.J. Carlesimo apologized to Latrell Sprewell for the career damage suffered by Sprewell after he choked Carlesimo.
ITJock
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gadbearr:
I had never heard of a \"canned hunt\" before. How shameful. I guess when you have more money than God you can afford to have the animals brought to you so you can kill them.
GB & HF - Not in defense of Cheney mind you, but of hunting in general:

A 'Canned hunt' was not what Cheney was participating in. Many anti hunting / anti gun advocates use the term 'Canned hunt' for a wide variety of hunting practices to try to disparage hunting in general. Most sportsmen are really good, concerned, environmental conservationists. In fact $3.50/$5 for conservation programs nationwide comes directly from outdoor hunting and fishing enthusiasts.

Cheney was on a ranch where they released birds into the local environment specifically for the sportsmen.

What happens when you release a lot of birds? They fly away right? If they fly off of your land then your investment in raising the birds is gone forever, and you have no sport. Further, your land may not be rich enough in the kinds of foods needed to attract or keep what you want to shoot in the first place.

Hence release hunts: generally a good grounds person will release the birds at least 24 to 48 hours in advance so that they have time to get into the brush and settle down - but not generally time to migrate off your shooting land.

A couple of days later the shooting party will come out and walk the edges of the fields where the game has generally settled into the more dense brush that separates most fields.

Usually a well trained dog is used to 'Point' the hunter to where the game is settled hiding in the brush, then to 'Flush' the game so that it flies away, and then to 'Retrieve' the game bird if the hunter has been successful.

A release hunt is good conservation because you release a lot of game birds, and generally only kill a fraction of the ones released. The rest of the birds are free to roam and replenish local game stocks – in effect going wild and becoming part of – and strengthening - the local wildlife ecology. Sometimes you do get a chance to shoot one of these 'wild' birds or their descendants.

IMO - Most hunters would be disgusted by a true ‘canned hunt’ where an animal (usually a big game animal) is released into a small fenced enclosure solely for the ‘sport’ of someone shooting them from a safe distance minutes after they have been released. Such practices are inhumane, and actively discouraged by almost all environmental and hunting organizations.

Although I prefer ‘wild’ hunting, I have been on many release hunts and can tell you that the game has a much better chance of getting away than of being shot by most of my hunting companions. In my Blog last August I actually wrote about one release hunt I participated in on the island of Sicily.

Remember too that almost all hunters eat what they kill. You might be a little squeamish about the ‘bloodiness’ of the sport; but how is it worse than farm raising chickens just to reach over grab one, chop its head off, then hang it waiting until the blood runs out and you can de feather it, and sell it to the public in plastic wrap.

I find that to be far less palatable; with less thought and concern about the animal, and very unsportsmanlike.

Rob

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[ February 17, 2006, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: ITJock ]
MIB
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fantomas:
...did your \"relative in Houston\"
Actually, my sister lives in Spring, TX., about 20 minutes northwest of the city, so spare me your asinine quotation marks. Some of us DO have family members who live in other parts of the country.

As to your other extraneous stuff, you're sounding more and more like HT and Horny, who are good at twisting sunset, darkness, and all that other crap around by filling their posts with irrelevant fluff.
MIB
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HotlantaTarheel:
I certainly hope MIB moves along because this is going to be the last time I correct him:

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Uh, excuse me, genius, but low-lying brush and all IS open land. BTW, I've never seen brush a few feet high obstruct the sun like you somehow think it does.

Were there mountains there? No. Trees that obstructed the sun? No.
1. The EXPERT who LIVES THERE said the area was full of mesquite. Mesquite can grow to 20 feet, that is not \"low-lying\" as you stated.

2. No one said anything about the trees blocking the sun, so I'm not sure why you got into a sissy fit over it. However since you bring it up and as #1 points out, trees that grow to 20 feet can indeed block out the sun if its low on the horizon, such as near sunset.
I say 2+2=4, and you say it's 5. That's not correcting. It's called refusing to face reality. Did you happen to see the photos of the hunting party? I doubt it, because the mesquite and other brush was only a few feet high, and only in SOME areas.

Why am I even bringing this crap up? Who cares about this irrelevant stuff? The fact remains: the accident happened around 5:30 p.m. CST and not at "sundown" as fantomas said (probably getting his info from the NYT, Mother Jones, or Dailykos or something). Sunset was almost an hour later. It might as well been 2:00 in the afternoon for all they cared, for that would have made no difference either.

Case closed.
MIB
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ITJock:
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gadbearr:
I had never heard of a \"canned hunt\" before. How shameful. I guess when you have more money than God you can afford to have the animals brought to you so you can kill them.
GB & HF - Not in defense of Cheney mind you, but of hunting in general:

A 'Canned hunt' was not what Cheney was participating in. Many anti hunting / anti gun advocates use the term 'Canned hunt' for a wide variety of hunting practices to try to disparage hunting in general. Most sportsmen are really good, concerned, environmental conservationists. In fact $3.50/$5 for conservation programs nationwide comes directly from outdoor hunting and fishing enthusiasts.

Cheney was on a ranch where they released birds into the local environment specifically for the sportsmen.

What happens when you release a lot of birds? They fly away right? If they fly off of your land then your investment in raising the birds is gone forever, and you have no sport. Further, your land may not be rich enough in the kinds of foods needed to attract or keep what you want to shoot in the first place.

Hence release hunts: generally a good grounds person will release the birds at least 24 to 48 hours in advance so that they have time to get into the brush and settle down - but not generally time to migrate off your shooting land.

A couple of days later the shooting party will come out and walk the edges of the fields where the game has generally settled into the more dense brush that separates most fields.

Usually a well trained dog is used to 'Point' the hunter to where the game is settled hiding in the brush, then to 'Flush' the game so that it flies away, and then to 'Retrieve' the game bird if the hunter has been successful.

A release hunt is good conservation because you release a lot of game birds, and generally only kill a fraction of the ones released. The rest of the birds are free to roam and replenish local game stocks – in effect going wild and becoming part of – and strengthening - the local wildlife ecology. Sometimes you do get a chance to shoot one of these 'wild' birds or their descendants.

IMO - Most hunters would be disgusted by a true ‘canned hunt’ where an animal (usually a big game animal) is released into a small fenced enclosure solely for the ‘sport’ of someone shooting them from a safe distance minutes after they have been released. Such practices are inhumane, and actively discouraged by almost all environmental and hunting organizations.

Although I prefer ‘wild’ hunting, I have been on many release hunts and can tell you that the game has a much better chance of getting away than of being shot by most of my hunting companions. In my Blog last August I actually wrote about one release hunt I participated in on the island of Sicily.

Remember too that almost all hunters eat what they kill. You might be a little squeamish about the ‘bloodiness’ of the sport; but how is it worse than farm raising chickens just to reach over grab one, chop its head off, then hang it waiting until the blood runs out and you can de feather it, and sell it to the public in plastic wrap.

I find that to be far less palatable; with less thought and concern about the animal, and very unsportsmanlike.

Rob

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How dare you make HF, HT, and FT look like they're wrong. They're going to confiscate your left-wing membership card if you're not careful. wink

[ February 17, 2006, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]
MIB
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Ms. de Blazer:
Yes, he really did apologize for getting shot.
No one here should criticize a man who was accidentally shot like this.

The left-wing loons here, who'd look for a scandal in a glass of water if they could, have nowhere near the grace and humility this guy has.
RazorbackTX
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MIB:
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fantomas:
...did your \"relative in Houston\"
Actually, my sister lives in Spring, TX., about 20 minutes northwest of the city, so spare me your asinine quotation marks. Some of us DO have family members who live in other parts of the country.

As to your other extraneous stuff, you're sounding more and more like HT and Horny, who are good at twisting sunset, darkness, and all that other crap around by filling their posts with irrelevant fluff.
Did you take your kids with you to Spring?
MIB
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Joe in Philly
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MIB:
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Joe in Philly:
The story isn't over just because you say it's over.
It's over because people with at least half a brain know it is. Even the media grudgingly admits this.
Funny, there are still reports on the story in the papers, on TV, radio, the Internet. I guess it's not over, no matter how much you and your RepubliScum masters want it to be.

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You want everyone to bow down before you, do as you say
Well, that would be nice. You first.
Sorry, Fred. BTW, that's what I'm calling you now because you hate being compared to Fred Phelps so much. Maybe it'll catch on! Anyway, Fred, if you want someone to bow down before you, call up gmg (he's used to it, being a party hack) or one of your other right-wing losers.

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it just tears you up inside that people ignore your wishes.
Hardly, and this tears you up inside, I'd bet.
You keep dreaming, Fred.

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It shows in some of your more obnoxious \"People Who Should Be Shot\" posts.
Good Lord! If you're commenting on posts in THAT thread, you're in more trouble than I thought.
Because your complaints there prove you're as rude and ignorant and discourteous in real life as you are on this board, Fred? Why would I be in trouble, Fred?

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It shows in your pompous \"American Icon...\" tag line.
The very fact that that little line irks you brings smiles to my face and warms the cockles of my heart.

Poor child. I rather think you've lost it (assuming you ever had it in the first place). Good day.
And now we come to the point, ladies and gentlemen, where Fred displays yet another typical RepubliScum tactic: always be condescending towards those who challenge you.

[ February 17, 2006, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]
MIB
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Joe in Philly:
Funny, there are still reports on the story in the papers, on TV, radio, the Internet.
Well, the left-wing media loons just won't let go, and that is surprising how...? rolleyes.gif

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Because your complaints there
Wow. I thought you possessed the intelligence to recognize posts by people in that thread as sarcastic, ironic, sometimes funny, off-beat, etc. Perhaps you ought to avoid that thread. It really isn't meant for pompous killjoys.

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Sorry, Fred. BTW, that's what I'm calling you now because you hate being compared to Fred Phelps so much.
Actually, I don't hate it or even dislike it. Not a bit. I am not one who is bothered by such stuff, so you'll have to do better than that, Joseph. I do hope this doesn't disappoint you. I'd really hate to see you pop a vein or something as you post one of your sanctimonious, rage-filled retorts. I do find the Fred thing rather amusing, though, and compliment you for having the inane creativity to even think of something so deep.

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yet another typical RepubliScum
Wow. That was good. Did you think of that one all by your wittle self?

Your friend Fred signing off for dinner now. Ciao. wink

[ February 17, 2006, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]
ITJock
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MIB
How dare you make HF, HT, and FT look like they're wrong. They're going to confiscate your left-wing membership card if you're not careful. wink [/QB]
I was not trying to make anyone look like they were incorrect; I was trying to educate some posters who may not know about the sport of upland small game bird hunting.

As for "your left-wing membership card"; I think you would be suprized to find out that until the 2000 election I was a registered Republican for over 20 years. I voted for Reagan and Bush (I).

I ripped up my card, stopped payment on a $2k check to the National Committee, and wrote a ripping letter to the State and National party chairs the day Bush was nominated.

I am probably far more conservative than you are, for all of your lip service.

Unfortunately, my party, the party of Lincoln, Hayes, Garfield, Harrison, McKinley, Roosevelt (my all time favorite), Coolidge, and Eisenhower has been lost to a group of self centered, religiously dogmatic, scoundrels and corporate racketeers and thieves from the military industrial complex.

I weep for the 'Moderate New England' wing of the Party (I fully supported both Snelling and Douglas - even Dean) that has fallen to the people who brought us to such depths.

My disgust with the Administration and current party leadership is very personal and specific. I have never like Bush (II). I find him to be arrogant, condescending, self righteous, two faced, corrupt, and disingenuous. He is a witless tool of corporate robber barons. He is a pampered fraud. I detest him and everything he stands for. I don’t believe Cheney is any better, though perhaps more honest about being a corporate superpower tool.

Please note that I have held these opinions of the man long since before his rise to political prominence. I have sincerely detested him since the 1980’s. He is nowhere near the man his father was.

Somehow George Bush's children and grandchildren ended up without any of the strength of character or honesty that was apparent in their father.

Rob
MIB
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ITJock:
I am probably far more conservative than you are...
I don't doubt you are.
Joe in Philly
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MIB:
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Sorry, Fred. BTW, that's what I'm calling you now because you hate being compared to Fred Phelps so much.
Actually, I don't hate it or even dislike it. Not a bit. I am not one who is bothered by such stuff, so you'll have to do better than that, Joseph. wink
Liar.

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MIB:
Don't ever compare Phelps to me. Ever.

This is your only warning.
HornFan
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Most hunters would be disgusted by a true ‘canned hunt’ where an animal (usually a big game animal) is released into a small fenced enclosure solely for the ‘sport’ of someone shooting them from a safe distance minutes after they have been released. Such practices are inhumane, and actively discouraged by almost all environmental and hunting organizations.
I'm familiar with "canned hunts" because they are perfectly legal in Texas. There's a place that provides them in the county where I grew up.

I'm fine with a release hunt, HOWEVER, I've heard (I don't hunt), that those little quail that are farm raised just kinda look up at you while you stare at them down the barrel of a gun. They don't react much like the covey's in the wild, but whatever it's huntin'. And no, I'm not a vegetarian.

Did any of you hear the parody of the song "Janie's Got A Gun"? Well, you DO know how well Cheney rhymes with Janie, so the song is kick ass funny.

MIB, what was the cloud cover like over that patch of land where Cheney shot the guy in the face? Call your relatives and report back, I'm curious.
MIB
You never did answer my question, horny: was it sundown when the accident occurred?

This isn't an open ended question. A yes or no answer is what I require.

Here, I'll help:

HornFan: "No, it wasn't sundown."

MIB: "See. I was right."

HornFan: "Yes you were. I am sorry for twisting this all around with extraneous, irrelevant bullshit."

[ February 17, 2006, 05:51 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]
MIB
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Joe in Philly:
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MIB:
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Sorry, Fred. BTW, that's what I'm calling you now because you hate being compared to Fred Phelps so much.
Actually, I don't hate it or even dislike it. Not a bit. I am not one who is bothered by such stuff, so you'll have to do better than that, Joseph. wink
Liar.

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MIB:
Don't ever compare Phelps to me. Ever.

This is your only warning.
And your point is?

Maybe I should have stuck a few emoticons in that post to illustrate the rather twisted absurdity of it. If I hated the Fred moniker, I would have put the red anger emoticons all over my post. Duh.

Next time I'll speak more slowly.

Sincerely,

Your buddy Fred

P.S. Don't ever misconstrue an obvious facetious post again. Ever.

tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

[ February 17, 2006, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]
HornFan
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MIB:
You never did answer my question, horny: was it sundown when the accident occurred?

This isn't an open ended question. A yes or no answer is what I require.

Here, I'll help:

HornFan: \"No, it wasn't sundown.\"

MIB: \"See. I was right.\"

HornFan: \"Yes you were. I am sorry for twisting this all around with extraneous, irrelevant bullshit.\"
Actually MIB, I believe the record shows that YOU are the one discussing sunlight at Christmastime in Houston...you know..with all the relatives and friends you have in Houston....Corpus...Spring...the Armstrong Ranch? Just a regular ole expert on the State of Texas who happens to be the biggest GOP apologist known to Outsports. Sorry, PF, runner-up yet again.
MIB
I love Texas! I'm there at least a dozen times a year. With several longtime friends who live in the DFW area, College Station, and a sister in Spring, I have many good reasons to visit the Lone Star State, where sundown does not equal darkness. Of course, even YOU knew this latter fact (or maybe not). wink

[ February 17, 2006, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]
HornFan
Cheney's Got a Gun
(A Parody of Aerosmith's 'Janie's Got a Gun")
Produced by The Bob Rivers Show

Dick Cheney's got a gun
Dick Cheney's got a gun
The safety's come undone
He's squintin' in the Texas sun
What did our leader do?
Who'd he put a bullet through?

They said when Cheney goes To Texas
You'll find him huntin' fish and game
His buddy had it comin'
Cuz when Cheney's got a gun
He's just not that good at takin' aim

Cheney's got a gun
Dick Cheney's shot someone
Cindy Sheehan better run
Better watch her liberal buns
Tell him that the war's not through
He'll probably put a hole in you

He tracked a little bitty birdy
Hopin' to blow out its brains
They say the spell that he gets under
From double barrel thunder
Makes his eyes pop out like he's insane

Run away, run away from the Vice President
Run away, run away, run from Dick Che-ee-ay-ee-nee

Dick Cheney's got a gun
Cindy Sheehan better run
He a weapon of mass destruction

Lead vocals by Spike O'Neill
MIB
That's pretty good. Is the actual song parody available?

I'd like to hear something similar done to the tune of the 1980's song The Homecoming Queen Has Got a Gun.
blueraider
hillarious, Horn Fan! biggrin.gif
hockeyTom
Hilarious article in my Saturday morning paper about some of the more infamous t-shirts out there making the rounds now. Some examples include:

"Deadeye Dicks Gun Club" complete with fake bulletholes. eek!
or:

" I went hunting with the veep, and all I got was shot" biggrin.gif

and:

my personal favorite: " ready....fire...aim!!"
swiminbuff
I wonder who he is hunting this weekend?
BPT-336
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swiminbuff:
I wonder who he is hunting this weekend?
Quayle of course! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
ITJock
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BPT-336:
Quayle of course!      :rolleyes:        D   [/QB]
Oh - and I thought they said he was out shooting some Tail! wink

R

[ February 18, 2006, 07:29 AM: Message edited by: ITJock ]
swiminbuff
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ITJock:
 
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BPT-336:
Quayle of course!        :rolleyes:            D    
Oh - and I thought they said he was out shooting some Tail! wink

R [/QB]
No, that was last weekend when he was out shooting with some tail and it took 4 days for him to get his tale straight biggrin.gif

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ITJock
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swiminbuff:
 
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ITJock:
   
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BPT-336:
Quayle of course!         rolleyes.gif              D      
Oh - and I thought they said he was out shooting some Tail! wink

R
No, that was last weekend when he was out shooting with some tail and it took 4 days for him to get his tale straight biggrin.gif [/QB]
biggrin.gif This weekend I think he has his tail between his legs! wink

R
fantomas
These last few posts are hilarious!

Just waiting for the reality show on Faux:

Ale, tail and quail: the Dick Cheney Story!
MIB
Play the Dick Cheney hunting game!
Allen
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DCBucky
More Late Nite with Dick:

Bill Maher: "It's amazing how much has changed. When I left in November the Vice President was still having people shot through regular channels.

Not to worry, the man who was shot left the hospital today and they said he was in good condition ... a little gamey, but still moist.

Dick Cheney said he felt terrible about shooting a 78-year-old man, but on the bright side, it did give him a great idea about how to fix Social Security.

There is a little discrepancy about what happened on this hunt because [Katherine] Armstrong, the woman who has this ranch, said there was no alcohol involved and Dick Cheney said he had one beer. So apparently, Dick Cheney can't keep his rifles, his story or his daughter straight.

The guy who got shot said 'my family and I are deeply sorry for everything that Dick Cheney and his family had to go through this week'. That is one loyal Republican. He also referred to the buck-shot wounds to his face as a thousand points of light. These people have drank the kool-aid.

Bush was in Tampa today. The first questioner said, 'the nation was blessed to have Bush as president.' That was a question. The second one referred to Jeb as 'your great brother.' ... At least when Clinton got blown, it was in private.

Leno: "Last night I went out with a bunch of the guys and played the 'Dick Cheney Drinking Game': it's when you down a beer and then you take a shot at good Old Granddad.

Letterman: "Dick Cheney is on vacation. He's out in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and so far he has shot two skiers.

Letterman's Top Ten Surprises from the Dick Cheney Interview on Fox
10. Admitted he's the guy who popped a cap in Suge Knight.
9. Sentenced himself to a week at Gitmo.
8. He's engaged to Katie Holmes.
7. Revealed list of the next ten old guys he plans to shoot.
6. Pinned Brit Hume to the wall with a ninja throwing star.
5. Chalked the whole thing up to 'roid rage.
4. Spent most of the time talking about who's going to win "American Idol."
3. His clumsy attempt to pin the entire thing on Michael Brown.
2. Claims it was all part of the plan to make Bush look smarter.
1. Stunning admission: "The gun was loaded and so was I"
MIB
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DCBucky:
 He also referred to the buck-shot wounds to his face as a thousand points of light. These people have drank the kool-aid.
Shows how much Maher knows. Whittington wasn't shot with buckshot. That probably would have killed him if he got shot with that in the face.

And "have drank"? I see English wasn't Maher's strong suit.
millerbeach
DC Bucky, thanks for the post. They were hilarious! Let's hope Cheney does something stupid in the near future. This administration is such great fodder for the late-night comedy circuit!
fantomas
Now, several weeks after the fact, the truth is still coming out. Ms. Ambassador to Switzerland Pamela Willeford admits that she had some wine with her lunch. Cheney said he had a beer. But wait, didn't Katherine Armstrong say no one was drinking? Or that there was liquor but no one drank? Such a small, unnecessary series of lies, really, but so utterly emblematic of everything these people are about...

[ February 25, 2006, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: fantomas ]
MIB
The horse has been dead for at least a week. Stop beating it already.
kick
Sometimes even the dead need to be excavated for further investigation when it is of merit...

There is more to this story than has been released- otherwise, explain the delay in reporting any of the events....

I say beat the dead horse if needed- it ain't feeling anything other the fear of those who don't want to hear what might be found.
MIB
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kick:
Sometimes even the dead need to be excavated for further investigation when it is of merit...

There is more to this story than has been released- otherwise, explain the delay in reporting any of the events....
Give me a break. This is now a nonstory, to say the least. You kiddies crack me up with your continual beating of this dead horse, one that's been dead for so long the decomposition is well on its way.
kick
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Give me a break. This is now a nonstory, to say the least. You kiddies crack me up with your continual beating of this dead horse, one that's been dead for so long the decomposition is well on its way.  
...and sometimes the old fogies can't face the facts that they are simply getting older, more senile, more set in their ways and doomed to repeat the history that they ignore- or simply choose to forget.

"I forgot I told someone that it was ok to tell that this lady was an agent..."

"I shot my gun even though I didn't know where the old guy went... He forget to tell me where he was."

As long as their is any bit of that proverbial dead horse, MIB, we have the right to question. It is with the intended fear of being labeled unpatriotic that this administration has tried to reserve the right not to be questioned about things. I am sick of it. I am tired of this administration trying to take on the onus of doing no wrong and those who simply lie back and support them.

So pardon me for wanting to question when there is a very shady and shaky story with so many things going on with this Veep and his boss.

I will keep on beating that dead horse and scrape up any bit of informaiton I can take in. Isn't it my right?
MIB
Well, you do make a valid point, that being that people have every right to be ridiculous and whine about something no longer significant.
swiminbuff
Did Dick go hunting this weekend? Whats the headcount? wink Any chance he'll invite Dubya out for the weekend?
RazorbackTX
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MIB:
Give me a break. This is now a nonstory, to say the least. You kiddies crack me up with your continual beating of this dead horse, one that's been dead for so long the decomposition is well on its way.
Yet you keep returning.....
MIB
As do you.
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