CBS has nixed any ads for MoveOn.Org and PETA during the Super Bowl. Yes, this is the same network that yanked the Reagan biopic after pressure from the RNC. Cowards!
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Boo-effin-hoo. Is CBS running pro-W ads from the RNC? The GOP can certainly afford it...

RNC rolling in dough thanks to small contributions. DNC poor because it can't take big donations from unions, corporations, zillionaires.

But I am told the media is sooooo liberal??????
Oh the hypocrisy!!!

Nah, they just don't want to sully what is a nice day off from all of this crap with a lame ad. The ad essentially reads as: Bush hurts children. Which would have been millions of dollars wasted on a negative piece of crap. Their Bush-bashing is going to cost them the election. They just don't get it. All it does is preach to the converted. Rank-and-file Americans want something positive and uplifting, especially on Super Bowl Sunday. The last thing anyone wants is to be beaten over the head about suffering children and how Bush is responsible when you're having a good time.

Now, if they wanted to run ads that really hurt Bush, they should secretly sponsor ads by shadow conservative groups complaining about his immigration amnesty. Their best hope is that conservative Republicans continue to grow unsatisfied with his spending, his immigration policy, his not-hardline approach to gay marriage, and so on. You should check out some of the posts at freeper.com. Even the Bushbots are realizing that their man may in trouble--not from moveon and Margaret Cho, but from within.

[ January 16, 2004, 08:23 AM: Message edited by: TomFord ]

But for this to be proof of the media's conservatism, or un-liberalism, or whatever, CBS would have to be running Republican/conservative campaign/advocacy ads while rejecting similar ads by liberals. That, as I understand it, is not the case, even though the GOP at this point could well afford to run ads during the Super Bowl singing W's praises if CBS would go along with it. If you have some knowledge of a W/conservative lovefest-get-out-the-right-wing-vote drive CBS plans to impose on viewers during the Super Bowl, by all means, fill me in. I don't want to miss it.

This is probably a good thing for the people who believe in this ad, as airing it during the Super Bowl could end up backfiring on them anyway. Sometimes people just want to escape from all that and just think about football and chicken wings and nachos. While I don't care for Bush all that much, I don't want to see Bush bashing during the Super Bowl. Just not the time or place, IMO.

A good thing in the short run, yes, but they'll no doubt shoot themselves in the foot again with their single-minded Bush-bashing agenda.

It's sad that moveon now has all that money, but is run by a bunch of bitter, angry hacks who are so out of tune with what most Americans respond to. Shows how they are doomed for failure that they would get as far as to think up, produce and try get an ad on the Super Bowl that is depressing as all hell. The least they could have done is have something funny. And to think that not a single person with clout in the organization would have clued them in to how bone headed such an ad would have been...fools.

Yes, and I am sure that Bushie is going to run a positive, wrap-myself-naked-in-the-flag campaign while he's waving a Bible around like he did at a church in New Orleans yesterday. Disgusting hypocrite.

[ January 16, 2004, 09:30 AM: Message edited by: bobby78751 ]

During the Super Bowl? And Bush was naked wrapped in a flag yesterday in New Orleans? I would think Drudge would be all over that.

That's also my understanding of it. CBS would have to have an ironclad policy that applies to all political spots from my understanding of the scarcity issues involving broadcast media. Otherwise, they would likely be forced to accept "issue" or other political ads from either side of the aisle.

CBS may be treading thin ice with their refusal to accept issue-related ads because of the scarcity issue, but they would really face a legal imbroglio if they refused the moveon.org ad and accepted a right wing org's ad or vice versa. And that would be totally justifiable in either case.

The scarcity issue does not apply to print media, so print publications can reject such ads at their discretion. In fact, a publisher can and has established policies prohibiting "pro gay" letters, columns, etc. Even stories that are anything but anti-gay are killed at the one example I cite.

You Repugs and your RNC were the first ones to go negative this year, don't forget!! Your party seems to excel at these, and in putting them out, but with Shrubs record, I wouldn't be able to put anything out positive either. wink

In 2004? I didn't know we had run any ads yet.

[ January 16, 2004, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: William1865 ]

Well, in 2002, the RNC and its allies used TV ads morphing the face of Sen. Max Cleland (D-GA) into that of Osama Bin Laden during the 2002 Senate race.
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Good one Bobby. But, think about it, a negative Bush ad during halftime? When America is fat and happy? (Happy, that is, unless you're an Eagles fan, because by half time, the Colts will no doubt have a decisive lead.)

The Dems should do just what the Repubs did with Cleland, and be just as crass and crafty, but contain themselves to certain markets. No one needs a negative political ad during the Super Bowl.

Instead, have ads that make Bush look like an illegal immigrant lover. "First they cross borders illegally to steal your jobs, now Bush wants to give them amnesty so they can get welfare and medicaid. Meanwhile you're unemployed." Something like that. And run them in depressed parts of the country, parts that are not known for their friendliness to strangers. Bush=Hitler and Bush hates kids just play to the loony left who hate him anyway. They need anti-Bush ads that target his less-than-conservative positions in the right markets. Find his Willie Horton achilles heel (which I think will be the illegal immigrant amnesty) instead of just the usual Bush is evil crap that most Americans either tune out or find disrespectful.

[ January 16, 2004, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: TomFord ]

So much for that...Bush was interviewed for 5 minutes during the pre-game. I hope one of his super bowl guests brought a 10-pound barrel of pretzels...enough for him to have later on, too. So, CBS can chat with the punk ass chimp for 5 minutes, but, God forbid they air a commercial that tells the truth of the Bushistas tax cuts. AAUUGGHH! At least CNN has the courage to air the ad.
274 days until our regime change.

[ February 02, 2004, 05:42 AM: Message edited by: bobby78751 ]

CNN ran the ad twice in the 8-9pm hour (ET... during halftime) last night. See it here.