It's bad enough this guy threatened the president, but Oprah??? Does he know what he's doing? How DARE he threaten the Queen of the United States?

The story

Even worse, what has Coca-Cola done to him ?
eek!

[ February 02, 2006, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: Ou Sooner 1997 ]

No one messes with the Oprah!! She may rip you into a million little pieces!! The others ... eh, not so much.

Good God! This kid's life is over! Oprah and Coca-Cola are now his enemies? eek!

darn straight the kid rips on Coca-Cola....they took Vanilla Coke off the shelves. I'd be ticked too!

So much for free speech in the USA. And the kid wasn't even on the phone to "Al Catah". But you can be certain that the time spent harassing him was time lost monitoring real terrorist suspects.

I had a thought this morning of a million kids clogging up the NSA's "secret spying" by calling the operator simultaneously to request the telephone number for "Al Catah", thus uselessly occupying the agency. But then I realized that it's totally unnecessary. They screw themselves.

It just continues to baffle me how we are suuposedly fighting evil forces who are dictators and terrorists who run their people they way they want, where there is repercussions for speaking out against your leader....

But yet Bush is doing the same thing. When will his supporters realize that he is no different from a terrorist?

Once again you two ideologues are missing the point. This is not an issue of free speech (something that is not absolute, which you two seem to not realize). This is a 7th grader who wrote an essay that threatened several people. The fact that one of them is the president of the United States is irrelevant. The Secret Service is obligated to investigate any and every threat made against a U.S. president. The school did the right thing in turning this over to them to be checked out.

Most threats against a president don't amount to anything, and I'm willing to bet this one won't either. The S.S. will most likely dismiss it and leave it up to the school to handle. However, there is a deeper issue here, that being the fact that a 13-year-old boy (give or take a year) is writing essays threatening people. It is wise to have him psychologically checked out.

You people are amazing in your incessant ability to turn every damn thing there is into a bash Bush topic. Grow up already.

[ February 03, 2006, 08:33 AM: Message edited by: MIB ]

Did he threaten any judges?

Maybe is Bush wasn't a POS pres, he wouldn't have 1/2 the USA hating him.

Half? Hating? Get real.

First of all, hate is a powerful, intense word. If someone "hates" a president, that person has some serious issues. Second, to say "half hate" is such a crock of shit. Not even half "dislike."

Now, let's not turn this thread political, as so many of you love to do. This is a real life situation where a young boy is obviously mentally disturbed enough to threaten several people and companies.

Re-read what I typed. I stated ½ the country hates him. Not ½ hates him. I’m sure it’s full-blown hate.

IF the tread involves the President then it’s going to turn into a political thread. He is a politician not a bricklayer. Of course we would be better off if he were a bricklayer.

The boy has some issues whether is it “mentally disturbed” or just frustrated and lashing out.

From the story: "It wasn't any detailed, minute-by-minute plan," Araujo said. "It didn't meet the criteria for a criminal charge."

:confused: :confused: :confused:

BTW, just because the president is mentioned in an article does not mean the entire thread is political. As the author of this thread, I certainly did not desire or intend it to be. The focus was supposed to be on a young boy threatening famous people. Besides, let's face it, whenever the president of the United States is threatened, it's at least somewhat newsworthy. That is something that should not be taken lightly, especially when looking at the context in which it might be done.

50% of the country hates the pres. Maybe that makes it clearer.

It sounds to me like the kid is lashing out. It does need investigated. The article could use some more details in it. We could speculate on why he hates the people companies listed. Maybe him mother is a big Oprah devotee and he wants his mother’s attention after school, she bought Coke but he likes Dr. Pepper…etc….

[ February 03, 2006, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: Ou Sooner 1997 ]

Ummmm.....so MIB, you claim that this little boy "threatened the President". Once again, I will need your source for this. Because from what I read in the link above, it says that he (quote) "advocated violence against President Bush". So he didn't threaten Bush, it sounds like he just wished or encouraged others to do something. (sorta like Pat Roberston advocating the assasination of Chavez). The article also said that "His perfect day would be to see the destruction of these people". Once again, he didn't make any threats himself, he probably just wrote something along the lines of "gee it would be nice if so-and-so were dead or got blown up". If what this kid wrote had been a real threat, then the SS (wait a second are we in Nazi Germany?) would have acted. What makes me wonder is how the government found out about it...???

Does anyone wonder how a kids essay got from the classroom to the Secret Service?

Nobody better mess with "The Oprah". Hell, she will invite him on her show and give him a years supply of Coke and a $100,000 gift card to Wal-Mart. That should fix him right up. As for Dubya...maybe he will make a presentation at the kids school and read them all "My Pet Goat". Naaah... that's been done already. wink

No, I don't wonder about this. It would be safe to assume the teacher read it and turned it over to higher authorities, as any sane and intelligent person would do.

The teacher was probably talking on the phone to someone about it and the NAS heard about it via a wire tap.

Prove it. That's a false and asinine generalization. Just how old are you anyway?

[ February 03, 2006, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]

Did you even click on the link, genius?

Jesus H. Christ, some people are just frickin' clueless!

Here is another link:

from the AP

They say the essay, "advocated violence against President Bush, talk show host Oprah Winfrey and others".

To me, advocating isn't the same as threating.

What MIB did was copy the website's headline as the title of the thread. Whatever it says in the article, the headline itself says "threatening."

And if all the political stuff is going to occur, then just have the moderators move this to P&R. The merits/popularity of the Bush administration isn't the topic at hand. If it weren't for the fact that the kid mentioned Oprah and Coca-Cola, this wouldn't even be worthy of a thread. (Frankly, I don't think it is at any rate.)

Agreed, especially since MIB was trying to be funny with the Oprah angle in his initial post.

The telling difference here is that between the AP headline and the FoxNews headline. Though "threat" never appears in the boys essay, one uses the word threatening, the other does not. Googling rhode island student shows some sensationalize and some don't. Subtle bias.

How blind, dumb, death are you? Pull your head out of the sand or wherever you have it.

I asked you to prove what you claim as a statistical fact. I await your evidence. Since you cannot provide it, I will accept your apologies for being irrationally assumptuous.

Indeed. I wouldn't give a rat's patootie if the kid just threatened the president--no big news there because every day there are plenty of people who threaten the president of the United States. Because this was a 7th grader, and because he also included Oprah and Coca-Cola, it made for a rather peculiar story, until the Oklahoma child came here and had to drag this into the mud. I'd suggest he just stay away and start a political thread in the proper section. I purposely put it here for a reason.

And Joe, you were correct. I simply took the headline and used it so as to not embellish it.

You get NO apologies from me. any search engine would find this for you. Since it seems that you are unabel to use them. Here is your evidence. Read it and weep. Now dry those tears.

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

I pity you. All you do on these boards is attack people when they don't agree with your bizarre view. You are very sad.

Sooner - I don't know how to break this to you, but disapprove and hate are two different things. Voting for Kerry and hating Bush are two different things. The only way you're going to win this battle is if you produce a poll that specifically asks "Do you hate George Bush" with 50% of the respondents answering yes.

You said half of America "hates" Bush.

Half of America would be roughly 150 million people. You were wrong.

Also, nowhere on that poll does the word hate or its implication appear. You were wrong again.

[ February 03, 2006, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]

As you can see he isn't winning any love either.

Ah, so no we're trying to change our tune, huh? Weaseling out of your original response?

You are beaten. Game over.

http://www.mikehersh.com/When_People_Ask_W...Hate_Bush.shtml

http://www.brokenmasterpieces.com/archives/000350.html

http://viewpointjournal.com/archives/2004/...-you-hate-bush/

Since you are slow I'll let you read that. Maybe if you nice, (baw haw haw) I'll post more.

http://stevecopy.blogharbor.com/

I don't think I need to go on...

You have yet to prove--yes, I said prove--that 150 million Americans hate Bush. A few, and I emphasize a few, of your fellow wacked out, left-wing children is not "half" of Americans.

Do you even KNOW what generalizing is? Or haven't you reached that grade level yet?

Think again.

No, you don't. You've embarrassed yourself enough, trust me. You post some person's blog and try to use it to justify your original stupid generalizations.

I think it's time you make a quiet retreat. The rest of us adults here will try to forget your foolishness.

Too funny.

For a blue hair, you have major grand delusions of self-worth.

Are you going to cry now?

Too bad I didn't have to click on that link to know what it is.

It's over, son.

So someone has told you that before me? I'm not surprised.

Anyway, bringing this thread back on track for the adults in here, what do you think should happen to the kid? Treatment? Should he have to confront Queen Oprah? Be forced to drink Coke? eek!

What time do they turn the lights out in your nursing home?

He wished harm on someone but didn't act on it. He has freedom of speech.


That being said, he could have probably picked a better topic for his paper.

Oh, not for a couple more hours yet.

Considering freedom of speech is certainly not absolute, and that these COULD be warning signs, I think something should be done.

I wonder how many of the school massacres over our recent history were found to have had their seeds sown by killers who gave even subtle warning signs that some may have often dismissed as nothing serious.

[ February 03, 2006, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]

If you are really going to do something like that, are you really going to broadcast it?

We really need more info on this. Worse case scenario he had a plan ready.

Best case and probably closest to true is that he was just venting or crying out. Still it needs to be investigated.

Well, the S.S. didn't press charges, so what's your gripe? Are you suggesting they don't have the right to investigate this? Perhaps everyone should just ignore it and wait to see what happens? ACLU is pissed because they don't think the police and SS should have gotten involved. SS has a responsibility to investigate and take appropriate actions when warranted, which is exactly what they did.

And freedom of speech is not absolute. You can't yell "Fire" in a crowded theater.

Look up!

don't piss off Oprah-she'll take you out