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Orville
QUOTE(MLB UMPIRE @ Oct 7 2010, 05:45 PM) *

As you wish.

You're wrong.


So... an actual constructed argument vs. a sarcastic, dismissive quip. But we're not on the baseball field now, so guess what, you don't automatically win the argument based on the uniform you wear. How about presenting some facts?
MLB UMPIRE
I decline to get into what amounts to a pissing contest with someone who does nothing but whine and complain and spew emotional claptrap here. All you have ever done here is bitch and complain, usually about things that have people here asking themselves, "Just what the hell is he talking about?"
Orville
QUOTE(MLB UMPIRE @ Oct 7 2010, 08:25 PM) *

I decline to get into what amounts to a pissing contest with someone who does nothing but whine and complain and spew emotional claptrap here. All you have ever done here is bitch and complain, usually about things that have people here asking themselves, "Just what the hell is he talking about?"


Whatever. Just like an umpire, you'd rather drink poison than change your mind. Must be nice to have the only job on the planet where no one is allowed to tell you you're doing a bad job, and you can tell anyone who tries to piss off. But the fact is, the umpires this year HAVE made an appalling amount of bad calls, and Jim Joyce is the only one with the balls to admit to one. And dude, if you think the umpiring this postseason has been what it should be, you're kidding yourself.

Bottom line, the most important thing in a baseball game is that the right calls are made, and the person telling an umpire that the right call wasn't made is not the one who caused the problem.
MLB UMPIRE
Thank you for proving my point about you doing nothing but whining like an emotional child. Never mind your baseless accusations and stupid assumptions.

I have no problem discussing professionally and rationally every aspect of Major League Umpiring (critiquing, commenting, complimenting, etc.), but I do so with others here who (a.) make sense, and (b.) don't rant like screaming lunatics, hurtling insults across the bow.

You will probably be my first person here to be put on the ignore list, and not for the reasons about which I am sure you'll assume and complain.
BigBlueCowboy
QUOTE(MLB UMPIRE @ Oct 7 2010, 05:45 PM) *


BBC, I was fortunate to be halfway decent in some sports in high school, and after going to a small college, I had some Little League umpiring under my belt and enjoyed it. I was a member of an association that had several outstanding alumni in both MLB and MiLB, so I gave it a shot and the rest was history.


Thanks for your response, MLB Umpire! Do you, or have you considered mentoring kids or college students to follow in your footsteps? I've gathered from your posts that you're a good teacher!
MLB UMPIRE
I participate in a few clinics during the offseason, including some advanced ones for those in college or upper level college ball.
Joe in Philly
QUOTE(Orville @ Oct 7 2010, 04:31 PM) *

The fact that the umpires are okay with the fact that one of them was the sole reason Michael Young hit a 3-run home run in a playoff game


I must have missed the part of the game where one of the umpires took the mound for Tampa Bay and threw the pitch that Young hit over the fence.
Crew Chief
How could you have missed that, Joe? It was so obvious.

BTW, that home run cost the Rays the game. After all, you take it away and it would have been 2-0 Texas at the time.

New math.

P.S. Congrats on your team's no-hitter. That was awesome!
Orville
QUOTE(MLB UMPIRE @ Oct 8 2010, 10:29 PM) *

Thank you for proving my point about you doing nothing but whining like an emotional child. Never mind your baseless accusations and stupid assumptions.

I have no problem discussing professionally and rationally every aspect of Major League Umpiring (critiquing, commenting, complimenting, etc.), but I do so with others here who (a.) make sense, and (b.) don't rant like screaming lunatics, hurtling insults across the bow.

You will probably be my first person here to be put on the ignore list, and not for the reasons about which I am sure you'll assume and complain.


Fine, if you feel I'm being inappropriate, all I can say is, that's your opinion. But I do feel that as someone who spends the time and money that I do on Major League Baseball, I feel I have the right to express my opinions of it. I don't like seeing bad calls change games. I believe players and managers should have their say if they disagree with a call. I believe that umpires should hold themselves to the same standards to which they hold players and managers: ie. If you would throw someone out for screaming in your face, don't scream in their face. I thought maybe getting the point of view of a major league umpire would help me understand why they do certain things. But instead of telling me your point of view, you've attacked me for attacking you.

So if this is the last post of mine that you see, I'll happily take the same point of view elsewhere. Or you can try to sway it. Your choice.
canmark
"KKK" costumes at an umpire school party? Comments?

NY Times: For Umpiring School, a Staff Party Proves Costly

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For a while, at least, the annual bowling party for the Jim Evans Academy for Professional Umpiring was a typical company outing. Employees drafted teams, concocted humorous names and went to the local alley to compete for bragging rights.

It did not stay normal for long. Over the course of that evening last month in Kissimmee, Fla., one team of employees bowled under a name that invoked the Ku Klux Klan. The team had entered the alley wearing costumes that played off the racist group’s distinctive regalia.

In the following days, one of the school’s instructors, the lone black employee, expressed unease over the night to his superiors. He also circulated photographs of the evening to a colleague.

This week, the black employee’s unease has led to this: the president of Minor League Baseball informed the Evans Academy that it would sever ties with the school and no longer accept its students into the professional ranks.

"We conducted an investigation, made our queries, and we uncovered behavior that we found to be reprehensible," said Pat O'Conner, the president of Minor League Baseball. "It was shocking, it was offensive, and it was disgusting to me."

Evans's academy, which opened in 1989, was until this past year one of just two schools from which baseball drew recruits for its umpiring program. This year, 14 of its 117 students were selected by Professional Baseball Umpire Corp, a subsidiary of Minor League Baseball, to be evaluated for potential employment.
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According to employees who attended the event, one group of instructors chose a name that referred to the racial makeup of their four team members using well-known slurs. The team was composed of three white instructors and one Latino instructor. The white instructors wore shirts decorated with the words "Border Patrol."

Another team, after briefly calling themselves Klein's Klan — incorporating the last name of one of the members — settled on the name Klein’s Kleaning Krew. They entered the alley with the team name silkscreened on their shirts and cones on their heads.
MLB UMPIRE
canmark,

Permit me to first but emphatically say that I personally think what those guys did was just plain stupid. It doesn't matter if it was meant as a joke or some other "innocent" fun. It wasn't very funny. I visit Jim's school each year and spend time with the guys. Ever since his school began (I did not attend his school; his started right after I graduated umpire school), it has had a reputation for being the top one.

I do know more about the relationship that exists between the JEAPU and PBUC, and with PBUC now in charge of one the three schools that sends some graduates on to a PBUC evaluation course to select those worthy for MiLB, well, one can see the conflict that exists.

One of Jim's Academy's instructors, in fact their top guy, was Justin Klemm, who headed the investigation by PBUC and is now running the new school. Justin left Jim's Academy under less than super friendly terms, let's just leave it at that. So, you do the math. Arguably the top professional umpire school in existence, now with it being emasculated, it no longer poses any kind of competitive threat to PBUC's school (or Wendelstedt's, for that matter).

In sum, I think what the instructors did was tasteless and brainless. I believe what PBUC did to Jim's school was overkill. I also believe that there was at least partially some hidden motive.
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