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twin58
Disturbing article.

A Reporter at Large - Higher Risk

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by MICHAEL SPECTER
Crystal meth, the Internet, and dangerous choices about AIDS.

Issue of 2005-05-23
Posted 2005-05-16

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“The epidemic of crystal methamphetamine is real and it’s serious,” Stall continued. “But I suggest that everyone just stand back and ask, How is it that aids and substance abuse have been twin epidemics that have interacted and made each other worse? That question has bothered me from the beginning.” For his research, Stall has drawn on data collected from the Urban Men’s Health Study, one of the largest surveys taken of a gay population. He looked at mental-health issues such as depression, partner violence, and substance abuse. He also examined the extent to which the men in this study of nearly three thousand people reported having been sexually abused as children. “I was surprised to see the extent to which one epidemic was associated with the other,” he said. “Depression, partner violence, substance abuse.” He controlled the sample for race, class, level of education, and H.I.V. status. Then he and his colleagues cross-referenced the data from all of the categories and found that each category was associated with all the others. That means that there are at least four significant epidemics going on in gay communities in the United States, and that they are interacting and making one another worse. Stall refers to this phenomenon as “syndemics”—a syndrome of interacting epidemics. The higher the number of the epidemics that any particular man experienced, the more likely he was to have risky sex, and to test positive for H.I.V.
Allen
We talked about this this already.

All I can say about we talked before is that a few people here need therapy a bit more than me. wink
Erik G
Allen, I do not recall talking about the interaction between epidemics in anything close to a scientific and objective format. But then again, what kind of therapy do you recommend? I am currently using psycle-therapy. I think it is working. It tires me out. Sometimes the use of it leaves bruising and scars biggrin.gif I have been told the "booty effect" is substantial tongue.gif
MPetrelis
>He looked at mental-health issues such as depression, partner violence, and substance abuse. He also examined the extent to which the men in this study of nearly three thousand people reported having been sexually abused as children. “I was surprised to see the extent to which one epidemic was associated with the other,” he said. “Depression, partner violence, substance abuse.” He controlled the sample for race, class, level of education, and H.I.V. status. Then he and his colleagues cross-referenced the data from all of the categories and found that each category was associated with all the others. That means that there are at least four significant epidemics going on in gay communities in the United States, and that they are interacting and making one another worse


So Stall, who used to be at the SF DPH and UCSF, is saying his usual things about gays = victims, which was he field of study before moving on the the CDC.

With at least four (!) epidemics strking the gay community, how do I manage to get out of bed every day?
Allen
I don't know how you do it either.

EVERYDAY is a struggle.
EVERYDAY is a challenge.

GOD! I have no clue how you do it. rolleyes.gif

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MPetrelis:
With at least four (!) epidemics strking the gay community, how do I manage to get out of bed every day?
PhillyFan
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Allen:
GOD! I have no clue how you do it. rolleyes.gif
The milking station?
Floripa
It's now in DuPont Circle.
hockeyTom
This total garbage must be moving east, after rolling through the west coast, and particularly my state, Washington, and California. It is just junk pure and simple.
jsieds
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Crystal meth has been in the DC gay community for quite awhile. I remember hearing about it at parties in the late 1990's. The Washington Blade did a series on it a few years ago and the Washington Post is just now catching up..
hockeyTom
The only crystal I like is the song "crystal" by New Order which is classic stuff. biggrin.gif
Erik G
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hockeyTom:
The only crystal I like is the song \"crystal\" by New Order which is classic stuff. biggrin.gif
I belive there is a Husker Du song "Crystal" off of "Candy Apple Grey".

[ November 08, 2005, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: Erik G ]
Erik G
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I thought you meant the "milking station" was in Dupont Circle. But then I checked out the link. I remember the "real world" milking station was in Wisconsin somewhere. Speaking of cattle, I heard you can get a lot of the meth ingredients from Fleet Farm in a salt block.

So the image of a bunch of circuit queens on their knees around a block of salt is hilarious. Mooing at the salt lick.
Seph
Is it me, or did it just get weird in here? rolleyes.gif

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>He looked at mental-health issues such as depression, partner violence, and substance abuse. He also examined the extent to which the men in this study of nearly three thousand people reported having been sexually abused as children. ... “Depression, partner violence, substance abuse.” ... they are interacting and making one another worse
The same could be said of the "straight community", as well. In essence, it says nothing about gay people per se.
Erik G
Sorry. I got bored with these meth "vicitims".
Herr Tiggee
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Is it me, or did it just get weird in here?
Looking at the list of posters on this thread, one should assume weirdness as the norm. It's the default setting for all threads involving...well, they know who they are.
ITJock
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This shit has been popular for quite a while - and is admittedly now the 'drug du jour'.

It's just now arrived in DC???

In other words they mean some middle and upper class kids have finally started to die...

Before that it was just invisible.

Rob
jockpop
Erik: "I thought you meant the "milking station" was in Dupont Circle. But then I checked out the link. I remember the "real world" milking station was in Wisconsin somewhere. Speaking of cattle, I heard you can get a lot of the meth ingredients from Fleet Farm in a salt block.
So the image of a bunch of circuit queens on their knees around a block of salt is hilarious. Mooing at the salt lick."

My oh my oh my. I haven't laughed this hard since ... well, I won't date myself. OK, I did last night ... but that's a different thread.
biggrin.gif Thank you, Erik. biggrin.gif smile.gif tongue.gif eek! rolleyes.gif
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