This weeks "pick em" is tough...

Week 3 isn't over. This just in.

Buc's season almost is though. Two more to go.

One more to go after this Sunday...


Bucs 27
Lions 10

So, the Jets just signed Testaverde. I guess they are just flying the flag of defeat at this point.

That AFC East just might be up for grabbs now.

Harrison gone from the Pats, plus the loss of the LB's. Then the OL going down (not sure what his status will be). Battered D and battered OL.. spells doom.

Is Miami the new favorite?

[quote]PhillyFan:
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Is Miami the new favorite? [/quote]It would make me feel better about Carolina's loss to them this past weekend.

What about Buffalo? Not that I think NE is out of it mind you.

[ September 27, 2005, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: shep71 ]

Are you kidding me?

Nope!

They handled Pittsburgh pretty well on Sunday. I'd still keep the Pats as favorites.

Buffalo screwed the pooch when they went with an unproven rookie at QB. They have a great defense, a solid running game, but don't have the leader it takes to conquer that division.

Edited to add - The defense has talent to be great (like last year) but has underachieved somewhat this year. The loss of Spikes is a huge blow. Losman can't hit Lake Erie - and last week Atlanta was without it's top 3 DB's much of the game. Not a good sign. Buffalo (especially the D) beefed up the second half of last year on poor competition and because of that expectations were too high coming in.

[ September 27, 2005, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: coyoteugly/sexist ]

No doubt NE and Pittsburgh are tougher, but Mularkey (I'm sure I'm not spelling that right), had them in the running for the playoffs last year, unexpectedly.

As far as I'm concerned, anybody but NE...enough already.

The heart of the buffalo D was carted off the field on sunday.

They are done.

At some point in time injuries will catch up with teams... NE is going to play a WR in the secondary for 13 more weeks? You can't do that.

You can only plug so many rookies on the OL before even brady is laying on his back.

Coming up with a gameplan to beat Pitt in one thing, going through 13 more weeks with a patchwork team is another.

Yes, the loss of Spikes will be huge, but it's not like they have a bunch of 3rd stringers running around in the other positions either.

Originally posted by PhillyFan:
[QB] The heart of the buffalo D was carted off the field on sunday.

You got that right.

Spikes is the heart of that D, everything ran through him... Buffalo has to change their entire D to compensate for his loss.

Add a rookie QB...

DEAD.

With Chad Pennington out for the year, and backup Jay Fiedler also out for Saturday, the Jets will start third stringer Brooks Bollinger on Sunday against Baltimore. Vinny Testaverde will be the backup for the game.

Maybe the Jets will also have to consider signing Ken O'Brien and Richard Todd as well.

Well Tim Couch and Jeff George are available!

For all the problems Tim had in Clevland, I still think in the right system, with the right support, he could be successful in the NFL.

(Let the naysaying begin...first up PF) :cool:

Well then you know a heck of alot more than the 31 other scouts in the NFL. Given his youth and the quality QB shortage in the NFL, if had even an iota of potential, I can't imagine he'd still be unemployed. As far as I know, he's not even going to NFL Europe or the Arena League or the CFL.

It's a bit mysterious that he just disappeared so quickly and completely. Seems as if there is something more to this story.

First of all, you are the one saying buffalo is a contender... not me.

You want me to bag on Tim Couch? are you shitting me? Why dont you ring up Buffalo he can play back up for their superbowl run....

Even though Buffalo has lost Spikes, they will still make the playoffs. But the way Miami is playing, that should be an great game.

Not a chance Buffalo makes the playoff in the uber-competitive AFC if Losman plays at the level he has played at, with or without Spikes.

There are too many better in teams in front of Buffalo competing for the playoff spots - New England, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Denver, San Diego.

4th Request to Cadillac.

Question: What is the combined record of the teams you have beat?

2-7. Now you don't have to ask the damn question anymore because you know he isn't going to answer.

Is there a bigger ummmmm "fan" who knows NOTHING about his team or the sport than pewter... oh i mean caddy?

I'm starting to doubt he even goes to these games.. let alone knowing what the cover 2 is.. or is not.

It's great that you can post pretty pictures and all, but when is he going to add to the conversation? He's been called out that his team is a fraud. The teams they played sucked.

God knows he can ramble on about oil drilling, but the game of football????? He's clueless.

[ September 27, 2005, 10:00 PM: Message edited by: PhillyFan ]

Well the game I've been waiting for this year Bolts-Pats, and now the Pats have questions again in the defense, with Harrison out for the season. This could be bigger than the LB's gone cause it seems like the DB's could be in disarray without their leader. Eugene Wilson will need to step up and be the leader of teh secondary, and overall Vrabel and McGinest will become the overall D leaders with Seymour taking on more of a role.

That being said, I think New England is going to be in a lot more shootouts this year, with the offense having to pick up for the defense while they figure things out. I foresee some shootouts in the Patriots future. Quite ironic that Indy is starting to flex some defensive muscle and the Pats might have to use the offense to win some games.

With the way San Diego was firing on all cylinders last week offensively I think this one's gonna be a game with both in the 30's, with the deciding factor who can make the plays in the red zone. I think there's one other things that the Bolts like in their favor, the last meeting. NE had won their first SB and the media was starting to say that this team could not be beat. But LaDainian Tomlinson pretty much showed they could, which was the game where SD and the NFL knew that he was going to be a special one. LT had over 200 yds and the Bolts won 21-14. Beating the Pats during this 4+ season run takes some of the mystique out of NE being unbeatable. They're not used to getting beaten repeatedly like Pitts, Indy, Jets or other teams.

I am bummed about no Harrison for the Pats tho. When they got rid of Junior and him, I was more PO'd about Rodney being sent away.

Get off your high horse, Joe.

Once again, you need to be reminded that simply because your have cluttered this board with the most posts does not give you the right to post replies like this. Your not the judge and jury or conscience of this board, and I'll post what I want to post.

Hey CU, Trent Green is a bitch!

I dont get this?

I dont get this?

Don't bother trying...it's not worth it.

It's sort of like the CB blitz to shut the running game down there Ken-Boy.

That said, Int Boy going against a cover 2... geez.

CU, there is no need for your tone here. Joe answered your question and he's right - please don't clutter the board by repeating the same question. I am removing your previous posts with your repeated post.

I left this alone for long enough(lol). Tell everyone about this. If I remember the conversation went like this...

PF was talking about how the Bucs cannot stop the run. I didnt disagree, however I did state the Bucs do use different scheme's, sometimes bringing in the corners like Barber and alot of times that it does catch RBs in the backfield. Anyone who knows, and can have a legitimate opinion of Monte Kiffin's defense, knows that it is not just simply black and white a CB blitz. You can still mock me and say it though, I have taken it this long. One just has to consider the source! wink

Hey PF, CU tell you any good Indian jokes lately? Or from he looks of his name has he switched to jokes about women? :cool:

Ken-boy, You shall never live down the CB blitz to stop the run! Why? Because the cover two is not specifically designed to be an "in your face" type of defense.

Never confuse that with the one time you saw Barber blitz while someone was running a draw play.

However, CU was just simply "trying" to get someone who posted car pictures in about 10 threads to defend his team.

Hopefully, Cyd can delete a few of those posts so my fonts and screen sizes arent all messed up fromt he pretty pictures.

So, here are some other topics we can discuss:

1) Will shottenheimer actually let LT continue to get a hand on the football, or will he forget about him again?

2) How epic will the implosion of the Lions be this week and which side will suck more: the "O-line of made of kittens" offense or the "bitch slap in your general direction vs. actually blitz you" defense?

3) How much will Favre suck?

4) How hard are you gonna laugh at the Jets this week? How many times will Ray Lewis laugh at the Jets this week?

5) The Game in Mexico: Are people faking injury to get out of going?

Or how many centimeters each one of us is dialated!

Was the question addressed to Joe, Cyd?

The point of the posts was trying to get a singular person to acknowledge a fact. That person is not Joe. This should be plain to you by reading through the thread. I knew the answer to the question.

Oh wait, I forgot, we have board favorites and the rest of us. Two sets of rules for conduct. Maybe you should create a "preferred list", or maybe just route all the posts through Joe for his approval before they're posted to the board?

Nice open forum. Nice equality. More Outsports hypocrisy.

How about the REAL game of the week.. Birds at Chiefs?

Dmac does, infact, have the injury that was said last week.

From what i've seen, the injury will not get better with rest.

BTW if Pewter/Caddy/Puker is now on the same "most respected poster" list as PCC, i'm shoving a pencil in my eye.

Sounds like you're trying to provoke a fight, not talk about football, which is what I've done throughout this thread. Wanna talk about football, Kenny? Let's talk football:

Tampa, who has beaten opponents with a combined 2-7 record and stand undefeated play the 1-1 Lions (their lone win over a team which has not won a game) this Sunday. Will this be a test?

How much longer can they give the ball 30 times to a rookie back? Through three games, Williams has rushed the ball 88 times. That projects out to 469 carries for a guy who received just 239 carries last year at Auburn.

Do Bucs rank No. 1 in overall defense because they are truly the number one defense or because they have they played some of the league's worst offenses?

Really interested in hearing your analysis. Remember, we're here to talk football.

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3) How much will Favre suck?
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Hopefully a lot this week, and I'm usually a Favre fan. Carolina needs the win to get back on track, but the only thing they seem to be right now is inconsistent. It's certainly not to late, but we have lost two games this year that were winnable for sure.

I just don't see GB going 0-4...from a Monday night game no less.

Go Panthers!

I have to agree with Cyd.

CU - there really is no need for your tone.

Thank you Joe for answering the question that was posed to me. I've been busy with real estate transactions and didn't have as much time this week to access my favorite website

I big bear hug to CU and PF! I think both could benefit from more of the human touch. wink

[ September 28, 2005, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Cadillac ]

Correct. Dmac has a sports hernia.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-e...ov=ap&type=lgns

Who's LT???

It'll make the \"Big Crunch\" at the end of the universe look like a tempest in a teapot, but I'll still take the kittens. They're fluffy. :cool:

If they were playing the Lions I'd say eight inches.

Part 1: Not much, it's bad for the karma. Part 2: Lewis better be careful cause he might strain a ribcage muscle or something. eek!

Oh probably. I don't find either attractive. eek! But that could explain where Mexxie got the gift that keeps on givin' eek!

Can I watch?

I'd prefer you use one of those big elementary school pencils. wink

Regardless make sure it's freshly sharpened. :cool:

[ September 28, 2005, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: Cadillac ]

Chiefs 31
Eagles 17

Opps...I just revealed one of my "pick em'" picks

PITTSBURGH 14
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS 24

GO CHARGERS!

Am I missing the Steeler Charger game on my schedule?

Is this how you do so well in the pick um contest putey?