MiamiSpartan
Aug 27 2005, 07:45 AM
QUOTE
KeyWest Guy:
Howdy! Just got power back after 25 hours. The island sustained lots of flooding, but still pretty lucky. Nothing major. We'll be back to abnormal in no time.
Southern Decadence may be in for some serious problems in NO.
Good to hear you're alright. It took you all by surprise as well...
Herr Tiggee
Aug 27 2005, 08:34 AM
My point of interest in all this will now be the state of affairs for all the immoral/amoral queens who will be in NO for Satan's Labor Day Grande Fete.
Fishing waders may be the #1 fetish fashion item if NO is still bailing itself out. Heh heh heh.
Cadillac
Aug 27 2005, 10:18 AM
If the path holds...last years Southern Decadence maybe the last one for some time. I'd definately be looking at alternative Labor Day weekend plans if Southern Decadence was my plan.
[ August 27, 2005, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: PewterPirate ]
MIB
Aug 27 2005, 10:45 AM
See what all you gays have wrought upon yourself down there in the Big Easy? This is God's punishment! Isn't this what Pat Robertson or Jerry Fallwell would say?
Anyway, if she comes ashore west of N.O., the damage would be catastrophic. An LSU study over the years put together the results of a major hurricane (120 mph winds or greater) hitting just west of N.O., making the strongest northeast quadrant of the storm slamming that city. Here's hoping that she makes landfall just east of the Big Easy.
BTW, watch for the price of oil to shoot up because of the disruption in the oil rigs. Yet another reason for traders to jack up the price.
JASooner
Aug 27 2005, 11:29 AM
QUOTE
AU Tiger in ATL:
Just combed through the member profiles sorted by # of posts. The top 320 people (ranging from Joe in Philly to anyone with at least 100 posts), and NOT A SINGLE PROFILE that lists New Orleans as home.
Wow, I always knew New Orleans was the nation's sports armpit, but that's just ridiculous. Oh well, perhaps someone is lurking here. Undoubtedly others have hotel reservations for Decadence next weekend.
The latest model runs are still converging on a landfall in or near southeast Louisiana. This could of course still change, but looks like New Orleans is still squarely in the bullseye. Unfortunately, the model runs have also sped the systems forward motion a bit, suggesting it could make landfall now before sunrise Monday morning. Even less time to prepare.
The big question now is becoming intensity. Big, strong hurricanes go through eyewall replacement cycles that can dictate whether it is a cat. 3, 4 or 5 at any given time. Right now (early Saturday afternoon), Katrina is about halfway through an eyewall replacement, so I wouldn't be surprised to see sudden strengthening later tonight. After that, who knows...
Cadillac
Aug 27 2005, 11:31 AM
Anyone else notice that since Bush has been taken office we have had more disasters than we have had in recent memory? Some had said Florida's misfortunes may have been due to the 2000 election fiasco.
Perhaps the "almighty" hasn't been on our side since Bush took office.
Joe in Philly
Aug 27 2005, 04:17 PM
Another reminder to keep the politics out of the non-political threads, please.
blueraider
Aug 27 2005, 06:24 PM
well, I don't live in New Orleans...but it seems its remnants may be making a beeline towards me later this week....
NOAA link
MIB
Aug 27 2005, 11:08 PM
The National Hurricane Center a few minutes ago just upped this storm to a strong Category 4! Yikes! Sustained winds as of 12:30 a.m. CDT were clocked at 145 mph.
They're also saying that unless it comes ashore during an eye wall regeneration cycle, it may very well be a Category 5 when it hits, and if it goes just west of New Orleans at that strength, God help those people.
Storms this strong frequently go through such eye wall regeneration cycles, as Katrina did early Saturday, but after that was finished, she rapidly strengthened. If she does this again Sunday, she could finish before landfall--not good. Also, the water near the coast is even warmer than what it is now under Katrina. If she passes over this, or over one of the extra-warm eddies, she can quickly blow up to Camille-like proportions.
[ August 27, 2005, 11:08 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]
metromathis13
Aug 28 2005, 08:06 AM
With maximum sustained winds at 175 MPH, Hurricane Katrina is now an extremely powerful Category 5 hurricane.
MIB mentioned Hurricane Camille- there is a major difference between that hurricane and Katrina. Hurricane Camille was an extremely intense storm, but it was also very small. Katrina is enormous, taking up half the Gulf of Mexico.
This storm has the potential to be one of the most destructive storms to EVER hit the United States. I'm very nervous for everyone living on the Gulf Coast...
MIB
Aug 28 2005, 08:40 AM
Some quotes I heard this morning from either an NHC expert or a Weather Channel meteorologist:
"No one alive today has ever seen a storm as strong as this one."
"175 mph winds! This is unheard of. It's historic!"
"This most likely is even more powerful than was the deadly Galveston hurricane of 1900."
"If this was in the Pacific, it would be called a super-super typhoon. I can't believe I'm looking at a hurricane this strong."
This went from 115 mph to 145 mph to 175 mph within some 18 hours or so. Impressive.
Note that this storm will most likely go through an eye wall regeneration cycle or weaken a bit regardless, for storms like this rarely maintain such high winds for very long. Regardless, it's still expected to be a Cat. 5 when it makes landfall.
[ August 28, 2005, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: MIB ]
JASooner
Aug 28 2005, 08:57 AM
Katrina is definitely in the top 1% of hurricanes historically. Gilbert was a tad stronger for awhile in the open Carribean in 1988, and there have been a few typhoons in the open Pacific that were stronger over the years.
There will almost certainly be at least one eyewall replacement cycle before landfall. If the cycle begins right before landfall tomorrow morning, it will be a lucky break and the storm will be a little weaker. If the cycle completes itself overnight, it could be near another peak of intensity at cat. 5 at landfall tomorrow. A cat. 4 or 5 at landfall now looks almost certain. Only if we're very lucky will at weaken to a cat. 3. Unfortunately, it looks like it will traverse a spot of very hot sea surface temperatures (90-91F) which will just fuel the fire.
The location looks like somewhere between the west side of New Orleans and Biloxi, so it will impact people in a bad way. Of course a cat. 4 or 5 into New Orleans is the worst case scenario and is still highly possible.
MIB
Aug 28 2005, 09:11 AM
Gilbert's pressure got down to 888 MB, but I don't recall its winds being at 175 mph. One of TWC guys also noted this. Not good.
Herr Tiggee
Aug 28 2005, 10:37 AM
A recipe for disaster
1 city built below sea level
1 lake to the north above the level of the city
1 river to the south
1 bay to the east
8-12 inches of rain in a 24 hour period
Sustained cat 5 winds to push water back up the river
Circulating winds to push the lake southward over the levees
Soak ingredients overnight, then serve at room temperature.
Serves 2 million.
BeefyFL
Aug 28 2005, 10:42 AM
When the Superdome starts floating down the Mississippi out into the Gulf, we are going to lasso it and bring it to Orlando and replace the aging Citrus Bowl. But will leave the Saints in New Orleans....
Joe in Philly
Aug 28 2005, 12:34 PM
QUOTE
metromathis13:
MIB mentioned Hurricane Camille- there is a major difference between that hurricane and Katrina. Hurricane Camille was an extremely intense storm, but it was also very small. Katrina is enormous, taking up half the Gulf of Mexico.
Camille struck in 1969. You weren't even
born then.
There seem to be conflicting reports about the shelters. I've read that there are 10 "last-resort" shelters, including the Superdome. But I've also heard that these 10 spots are just pick-up locations and that everyone is being taken to the Superdome.
Let's hope the Superdome lives up to its name.
Actually, I read that Gilbert peaked at 185 mph and Camille made landfall with 190 mph sustained winds. I think Mitch may have reached velocities in the 175 range as well. Fortunately, Gilbert and Mitch, like other recent monster hurricanes (Floyd, Georges) weakened before landfall. Hopefully, Katrina will not sustain this level of strength because if the levees fail at New Orleans we will be looking at the most costly disaster in US history.
The small size of Camille was a mixed blessing--its central pressure was roughly the same as Katrina, but its small size led to a steeper pressure gradient and higher winds. Andrew was a similar (though weaker) storm and similarly devastated a small area while much of metropolitan Miami largely unscathed.
twin58
Aug 28 2005, 01:36 PM
Google for Hurricane Hunters Squadron at Keesler AFBThe unit's official designation is, if I'm not mistaken, the 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron of the
403rd Wing. Azairforce, let me know if a correction is needed.
The
Hurricane Hunters website hasn't been updated since October, 2004. That may soon change.
[ August 28, 2005, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: twin58 ]
It's dropped to "only" 165 mph in the latest advisory. However, its central pressure is down to 902 mbars.
mets57
Aug 28 2005, 02:48 PM
what joe said.
metromathis13
Aug 28 2005, 03:38 PM
QUOTE
Joe in Philly:
QUOTE
metromathis13:
MIB mentioned Hurricane Camille- there is a major difference between that hurricane and Katrina. Hurricane Camille was an extremely intense storm, but it was also very small. Katrina is enormous, taking up half the Gulf of Mexico.
Camille struck in 1969. You weren't even
born then.
Yeah, but I did want to be a hurricane specialist (like Dr. Steve Lyons at the Weather Channel) from when I was 7 until when I was 10. I know tons about hurricanes and tracking and forcasting them. I also read a plethora of books about hurricanes, including one that was mostly accounts of the damage that Hurricane Camille caused, from Mississippi and Louisiana to Virginia and Ohio.
azairforce
Aug 28 2005, 05:01 PM
Metro
your a very impressive guy!!
I agree this storm is going to be pure hell. I was in Miami for Andrew and this looks worse
MIB
Aug 28 2005, 06:10 PM
Sometimes I think weather people tend to exaggerate. I'm waiting for something along the lines of "this is the worst hurricane in the history of the universe."
Enough. Katrina's a bitch, a very powerful one. Let's just leave it at that and hope that somehow, in some miraculous way, she weakens--a lot.
Oh, and maybe I should put this into the "People who should be shot" thread, but I'm watching ABC's network news, and they show a young mom, her boy friend, and the woman's 3-year-old daughter. They said they were going to ride the storm out--on their small boat--in one of New Orleans's coastal canals.
Are these people nuts?!? The ABC News guy should have immediately asked them for the contact info for their next of kin.
MIB
Aug 28 2005, 06:55 PM
And could
this be Lee? Time will tell.
MIB
Aug 28 2005, 06:56 PM
***BREAKING NEWS***The National Hurricane Center has renamed this storm Hurricane Whoop-ass.
twin58
Aug 28 2005, 07:00 PM
And now for the weather: QUOTE
WWUS74 KLIX 282139
NPWLIX
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005
...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA...
...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...
MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.
THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.
HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.
AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.
POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.
AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.
LAZ038-040-050-056>070-MSZ080>082-290300-
ASSUMPTION-HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-
LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-
ORLEANS-ST. CHARLES-ST. JAMES-ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST. TAMMANY-
TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON-UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-
UPPER ST. BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005
...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT...
HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 26 TO 28 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL
ONSET AROUND MIDNIGHT NEAR THE COAST AND BY 3 AM CLOSER TO THE NEW
ORLEANS METRO AREA AND PERSIST FOR 9 TO 15 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS
AROUND 175 MPH ARE LIKELY IN THE WARNED AREA BY DAYBREAK MONDAY.
DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET!
$$
LAZ034>037-039-046>049-MSZ068>071-077-290300-
AMITE-ASCENSION-EAST BATON ROUGE-EAST FELICIANA-IBERVILLE-
PEARL RIVER-PIKE-POINTE COUPEE-ST. HELENA-WALTHALL-WASHINGTON-
WEST BATON ROUGE-WEST FELICIANA-WILKINSON-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005
...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT...
HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
SREAD NORTHWESTWARD INTO THE GREATER BATON ROUGE AREA AND
SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI LATER THIS EVENING. TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO ONSET AROUND 9 PM TONIGHT AND PERSIST
FOR 22 TO 26 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL ONSET AROUND
DAYBREAK AND PERSIST FOR ABOUT 5 TO 10 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND
GUSTS OF 80 TO 90 MPH ARE POSSIBLE IN EAST-CENTRAL LOUISIANA
AND SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI.
DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET!
$$
MIB
Aug 28 2005, 07:06 PM
Just another late summer forecast, eh? eek!
On another note, can someone verify this: people were waiting HOURS just to get into the Super Dome, becoming drenched in the meantime when Katrina's rains first began. Apparently the wait was so bad because officials had to search everything people brought in like they normally do on sports days. Also, for security reasons, people were not allowed to bring water bottles or food with them into the Dome. I heard something like this on ABC News this evening.
Now, if this is true, am I the only one who thinks this is just asinine? This is not a typical sporting event, so why the typical security? Just let the damn people in! And why deny people the ability to bring food and water with them, especially when the authorities are complaining that they don't know how they're going to feed the people, who are expected to be stuck there for more than a day.
Am I misconstruing something here? :confused:
phillyrunner
Aug 28 2005, 07:13 PM
On CNN they are saying quite the contrary. People going into the Superdome are suppose to bring in 3 days worth of food. The emergency management team says the dome is to protect the people from the elements not for feeding the evacuees.
[ August 28, 2005, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: phillyrunner ]
twin58
Aug 28 2005, 07:50 PM
How to listen:
New Orleans Area Radio StationsYou'll need a shortwave radio for this one:
Hurricane Watch Net
Joe in Philly
Aug 28 2005, 08:07 PM
QUOTE
metromathis13:
QUOTE
Joe in Philly:
QUOTE
metromathis13:
MIB mentioned Hurricane Camille- there is a major difference between that hurricane and Katrina. Hurricane Camille was an extremely intense storm, but it was also very small. Katrina is enormous, taking up half the Gulf of Mexico.
Camille struck in 1969. You weren't even
born then.
Yeah, but I did want to be a hurricane specialist (like Dr. Steve Lyons at the Weather Channel) from when I was 7 until when I was 10. I know tons about hurricanes and tracking and forcasting them. I also read a plethora of books about hurricanes, including one that was mostly accounts of the damage that Hurricane Camille caused, from Mississippi and Louisiana to Virginia and Ohio.
You sound like me! I was a weather nut when I was a kid. I was reading books and even drawing my own weather maps. wink Of course, when I was reading about Camille I was reading the daily newspapers, and the Weather Channel didn't exist... eek!
MIB
Aug 28 2005, 08:28 PM
Jeez, Joe, you
are old!
twin58
Aug 28 2005, 08:32 PM
Here are links to some amazing articles talking about a Category 5 hurricane hitting New Orleans. They were written a year or a few years ago.
The City in a Bowl QUOTE
9.20.02
Transcript: The City in a Bowl
....
DANIEL ZWERDLING: So basically the part of New Orleans that most people in the United States and around the world think of as New Orleans would disappear under water.
JOE SUHAYDA:: That's right. During the worst of the storm, most of this area would be covered by 15 to 20 feet of water.
DANIEL ZWERDLING: Do you expect this kind of hurricane and this kind of flooding to hit New Orleans in our lifetime?
JOE SUHUYDA: Well, there-- I would say the probability is yes. In terms of past experience, we've had three storms that were near-misses that could've done at least something close to this.
DANIEL ZWERDLING: So emergency management officials are trying to get ready... they're playing a hurricane version of war games.
WALTER MAESTRI: A couple of days ago we actually had an exercise where we brought a fictitious Category Five hurricane--
DANIEL ZWERDLING: The worst.
WALTER MAESTRI: --the absolute worst, into the metropolitan area
....
Gone With the Water QUOTE
The Louisiana bayou, hardest working marsh in America, is in big trouble—with dire consequences for residents, the nearby city of New Orleans, and seafood lovers everywhere.
....
It was a broiling August afternoon in New Orleans, Louisiana, the Big Easy, the City That Care Forgot. Those who ventured outside moved as if they were swimming in tupelo honey. Those inside paid silent homage to the man who invented air-conditioning as they watched TV \"storm teams\" warn of a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. Nothing surprising there: Hurricanes in August are as much a part of life in this town as hangovers on Ash Wednesday.
But the next day the storm gathered steam and drew a bead on the city. As the whirling maelstrom approached the coast, more than a million people evacuated to higher ground. Some 200,000 remained, however—the car-less, the homeless, the aged and infirm, and those die-hard New Orleanians who look for any excuse to throw a party.
The storm hit Breton Sound with the fury of a nuclear warhead, pushing a deadly storm surge into Lake Pontchartrain. The water crept to the top of the massive berm that holds back the lake and then spilled over. Nearly 80 percent of New Orleans lies below sea level—more than eight feet (two meters) below in places—so the water poured in. A liquid brown wall washed over the brick ranch homes of Gentilly, over the clapboard houses of the Ninth Ward, over the white-columned porches of the Garden District, until it raced through the bars and strip joints on Bourbon Street like the pale rider of the Apocalypse. As it reached 25 feet (eight meters) over parts of the city, people climbed onto roofs to escape it.
Thousands drowned in the murky brew that was soon contaminated by sewage and industrial waste. Thousands more who survived the flood later perished from dehydration and disease as they waited to be rescued. It took two months to pump the city dry, and by then the Big Easy was buried under a blanket of putrid sediment, a million people were homeless, and 50,000 were dead. It was the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States.
When did this calamity happen? It hasn't—yet.
....
\"The killer for Louisiana is a Category Three storm at 72 hours before landfall that becomes a Category Four at 48 hours and a Category Five at 24 hours—coming from the worst direction,\" says Joe Suhayda, a retired coastal engineer at Louisiana State University....
... \"It's not if it will happen,\" says University of New Orleans geologist Shea Penland. \"It's when.\"
MIB
Aug 28 2005, 08:37 PM
I have a feeling Katrina will weaken to Cat. 4 as she makes landfall, albeit a strong Cat. 4. Right now she may be beginning another eye wall regeneration cycle. I also think she'll hit N.O. on its eastern side, which would spare the city the storm's worst winds and worst storm surge.
so fla ref
Aug 28 2005, 11:09 PM
Day #5 without power here in Ft. Lauderdale. Never thought I'd be happy to be at work, but we have A/C, cable, internet, etc. in the office. It's frustrating, people across the street from my apt. have lights, there's power a block away in all directions from me. FP&L is telling me that it will likely be Friday before power is restored to our block. However, our inconvenience pales in comparison for what's in store for New Orleans and the Gulf Coast area. It's 2am Monday, and Katrina is still a strong Cat.5. Hang in there in the Big Easy.
MIB
Aug 29 2005, 12:17 AM
Katrina now a Cat. 4, albeit at the highest point of a Cat. 4; and it appears she's going to go past N.O. on its east side, which makes a significant difference in damage to that city.
Joe in Philly
Aug 29 2005, 07:27 AM
Not-so-Superdome...but at least it hasn't collapsed yet...
QUOTE
NEW ORLEANS - Hurricane Katrina ripped away part of the roof on the Louisiana Superdome as thousands of storm refugees huddled inside Monday.
Strips of metal were peeled away, creating two holes that were visible from the floor of the huge arena. Water dripped in and people were moved away from about five sections of seats directly below.
Others watched as sheets of metal flapped visibly and noisily. From the floor, more than 19 stories below the dome, the openings appeared to be 6 feet long.
\"The superdome is not in any dangerous situation,\" Gov. Kathleen Blanco said.
General Manager Glenn Menard said he did not know how serious the problem was. \"We have no way of getting anyone up there to look,\" he said.
That little turn to the east apparently will spare the worst-case scenario of New Orleans being under water for months, but there will still be plenty to clean up.
As of 10 am ET: "THE WESTERN EYEWALL OF THE HURRICANE IS OVER NEW ORLEANS...AND THE
NORTHEASTERN EYEWALL IS SPREADING ONSHORE THE MISSISSIPPI COAST."
Posted by
puckman1 (Member # 663) on August 28, 2005, 07:59 AM:
Katrina- Now Category 5
As I hear even more incredible reports about this now monster category 5 storm which just continues to get even stronger hour by hour my thoughts will be with everyone down in that part of the country, and specifically the people of New Orleans a city I have grown to love.Its hard to calculate just how scary wind speeds of up to 175 mph are. I have been to New Orleans many times, and always long to return again and again. It seems like the message is being heard to evacuate. Thank goodness. I hope the city is spared any massive devastation, and the loss of life is minimal. Take care down there!! Our thoughts will be with you all.
Posted by
BillyC (Member # 2532) on August 28, 2005, 09:42 AM:
I only hope there'e no one left in the NOLA area now still reading this! I can't help but recall the images of good people and good times there. My thoughts & wishes to all in Southern Louisiana.
Posted by
tnmanfan (Member # 3078) on August 28, 2005, 10:58 AM:
My parents are in their late 70's and live in Pascagoula, MS less than a mile from the beach. The highest point is 6 feet above sea level. My dad refuses to leave. I just hope they don't too much wind or water. I'm really worried about the water. I remember Camille when it hit Biloxi (20 minutes west of Pascagoula) An oiler tanker washed ashore and was grounded on the north side of highway 90 which runs along the coast. I can only hope that the water doesn't get they high again. My mom is afraid of the water and can't swim.
Posted by
twin58 (Member # 67) on August 28, 2005, 11:28 AM:
I recall 1969's Camille as well. It was
particularly lethal in Nelson County, Virginia, where it dropped 28" of rain.
Google for Hurricane CamilleThree years after that,
Hurricane Agnes came through, in June, 1972.
Munson Man
Aug 29 2005, 08:30 AM
I copied this from a story posted on abcnews.com:
>>>"I'm not doing too good right now," Chris Robinson said via cellphone from his home east of the city's downtown. "The water's rising pretty fast. I got a hammer and an ax and a crowbar, but I'm holding off on breaking through the roof until the last minute. Tell someone to come get me please. I want to live."<<<
So this guy chose to not listen to all these dire evacuation orders and disaster scenarios, and now he's terrified and wants someone to put their own life in jeopardy to come rescue him? I'm sorry, bit in a situation like this where he's made such a stupid decision, he needs to be prepared to fend for himself.
MIB
Aug 29 2005, 09:45 AM
Interesting story on the hurricane hunters.
BeefyFL
Aug 29 2005, 06:00 PM
Is it just coincidence that the hurricanes only attack Red States? Trust me, if they were hitting Blue States, Robertson and Falwell would be claiming the hurricanes were a punishment from God. I still recall when Robertson prayed that a hurricane would hit Orlando when we had a gay-flag controversy during Gay day.....he was about 6 years too late.
MIB
Aug 29 2005, 07:11 PM
Please keep the politics out of this thread.
MIB
Aug 29 2005, 09:07 PM
QUOTE
BeefyFL:
As to MIB, i was only making an observation
....and besides, I don't recall you being elected to serve as monitor on this web site....
No, that's Joe in Philly's job.
Other than that, shut the heck up and keep the politics out of this thread.
Joe in Philly
Aug 29 2005, 10:21 PM
QUOTE
MIB:
QUOTE
BeefyFL:
As to MIB, i was only making an observation
....and besides, I don't recall you being elected to serve as monitor on this web site....
No, that's Joe in Philly's job.
Oh, if only I were in charge of this message board. Things would be soooooo different around here!
BeefyFL -- because political comments are much too controversial for rational and polite discussion, they're kept in their very own forum. This one isn't it.
MIB
Aug 29 2005, 10:30 PM
QUOTE
Joe in Philly:
Oh, if only I were in charge of this message board. Things would be soooooo different around here!
Yeah, we'd all be forced to walk around naked in here!
KeyWest Guy
Aug 30 2005, 05:29 AM
QUOTE
MIB:
I've always been fascinated by weather, especially severe storms, tornadoes, and hurricanes. Kinda cool.
Still think so?
MIB
Aug 30 2005, 09:59 AM
QUOTE
KeyWest Guy:
QUOTE
MIB:
I've always been fascinated by weather, especially severe storms, tornadoes, and hurricanes. Kinda cool.
Still think so?
Yes I do. I'm still fascinated by the raw power of nature, clearly illustrated by Katrina.
PhillyFan
Aug 30 2005, 02:33 PM
On a side note of a bit of humor..
Paging GJ.. paging GJ...
Grab your friends...Dykes needed to save the Appletini's on Bourbon Street...
OlympicFan
Aug 30 2005, 04:09 PM
Discussion of the devastation left in the wake of Hurricane Katrina has been moved to The Aftermath: US Gulf Coast Devastated by Hurricane Katrina - Outsports moderator [ August 30, 2005, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: m1 ]
twin58
Aug 30 2005, 06:19 PM
QUOTE
OlympicFan
bad weather brings out surfers....
Playing in my just repaired DVD player last night:
Step Into Liquid.
Two wahinis up, way up.
I'd appreciate it if you'd put that wahini back.
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