MIB
Oct 21 2005, 01:39 PM
This is a really cool animation of this season's tropical storms and hurricanes. It's put together by NASA.
You click on either Rita or Katrina and you can download the NASA clip. It's pretty neat.
[ October 21, 2005, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: MIB ]
MiamiSpartan
Oct 21 2005, 06:52 PM
We are finally going to put up some shutters tomorrow. Because of the possible timing of the storms, it looks like we can go to Orlando as scheduled. My sister is meeting us there from Chicago.
My partner is there for a food show, so she and I will spend the days at the parks...probably will get a bit wet. The pets will all be safe in our house, and a neighbor will be checking on them...
Joe in Philly
Oct 22 2005, 09:11 AM
Wilma continues to pound the Yucatan, with winds down to 115 mph. The expected landfall in Florida is now Monday. I hope it's weak enough to not cause serious damage.
Meanwhile, there's another tropical depression and it's expected to become the record-breaking Tropical Storm Alpha! eek!
MIB
Oct 22 2005, 09:30 AM
Will we get to Delta, Joe?
We had "Delta
House," how about "Delta
Storm"?
gmginsfo
Oct 22 2005, 02:49 PM
How about
this Delta? Thanks for that hurricane link, MIB; it's VERY cool!
MIB
Oct 22 2005, 02:56 PM
gmg, Ugh!!!!
I'm going to need hours of therapy now.
metromathis13
Oct 22 2005, 03:33 PM
Speaking of destructive hurricanes and record-breaking...this season could break the record of 4 retired names. So far, no season has had more than 4 hurricane names retired. This season, it would not be surprising to see six: Dennis, Emily, Katrina, Rita, Stan, and now Wilma. All of the storms caused significant damage, except Stan (a candidate because of the loss of life it caused in Central America).
And the formation of record-breaking Tropical Storm Alpha just reminds us that the season still has over a month left.
Joe in Philly
Oct 22 2005, 07:03 PM
Just think -- if there are a rash of storms and they get all the way down to Lambda, we'd have the first openly gay hurricane! eek!
MIB
Oct 22 2005, 09:46 PM
Oh, that's bad, Joe. Just bad. frown
Joe in Philly
Oct 23 2005, 10:21 AM
You're just jealous because you didn't think of it first.
KeyWest Guy
Oct 23 2005, 06:52 PM
About 50 mph sustained now at 9:50pm. Power's flickered a few times so i expect it to go shortly. Luckily, it looks like we'll avoid a direct hit, but Naples and Marco Island won't be so lucky.
We're still planning to have a scaled-down Fantasy Fest starting on Wednesday so come on down if you're looking for some island fun!
MIB
Oct 23 2005, 06:54 PM
Do we get to pick up the debris?
KeyWest Guy
Oct 23 2005, 06:56 PM
Maybe some trash, but we'll take care of the debris.
Munson Man
Oct 24 2005, 09:31 AM
Oh My God. I just got a report from my place in Fort Lauderdale. The damage is the worst we've had in years. There's no power, but worse is that my bedroom, which faces west, took a direct hitvfrom the wind. My bedroom windows blew out, and then the wind blew every door out, every piece of glass in side is shattered, my furniture is strewn about the whole house, and the whole place is full of water. I'm going to get down there as soon as I can, but it sounds bad.
Chill-Trick
Oct 24 2005, 09:34 AM
QUOTE
Joe in Philly:
Just think -- if there are a rash of storms and they get all the way down to Lambda, we'd have the first openly gay hurricane! eek!
Not necessarily Joe, hasn't there been a Hurricane Bruce before? LOL
Cadillac
Oct 24 2005, 11:46 AM
I think KeyWestGuy may have regretted the decision to stay. Tampa only got some rain and mostly winds although nothing compared to those south of us. The lows are to be in the 40's tonight!!!!! I already have a sweater on to celebrate!!!
PS - I doubt Fantasy Fest happens Wednesday.
Cattledog
Oct 24 2005, 12:00 PM
I just got a call from my favorite uncle in Boynton Beach, FL. He said that this definitely not what they expected, and they have been through many hurricanes living down there. Lots of damage to their patio area, but he said that they are pretty lucky.
Joe in Philly
Oct 24 2005, 12:01 PM
I woke up this morning and heard that it was up to a category 3 with 125 mph winds when it hit the coast. This, after I kept hearing over the last few days that there would be wind shearing that would affect it. Apparently the wind shear didn't happen. I know that predicting hurricanes is far from an exact science, but considering the history of this storm -- going from 70 to 175 mph in 24 hours, beyond all predictions, and now having it re-strenghten to cat 3 before landfall, which until yesterday didn't seem to be a possibility -- it really makes me wonder what's going on in the atmosphere.
MM -- sorry to hear your damage report. I'm glad you were up here and safe, though. I hope KWG and anyone else down there comes through okay -- I heard that less than 10 percent of the population of the Keys evacuated.
hockeyTom
Oct 24 2005, 12:19 PM
CNN is reporting that most of Key West is under from 2-3 feet of water, and the general prevailing feeling is that this was worse than expected. About 2-3 million without power, and many highrises in Miami have their windows blown out, among other messes.
bballrob
Oct 24 2005, 12:31 PM
Yeah, Key West does not sound good. We are all thinking about you, KWG!!!
Munson Man
Oct 24 2005, 12:41 PM
I'm not sure I understand how Wilma came ashore with 85 mph winds, then cut acrosee the peninsula, which is supposed to weaken it, and arrived at the Atlantic coast in Broward County with 120 mph winds. That just doesn't make sense, but it corroborates what I've heard from all my neighbors, who were all shocked at how much stronger the storm was than any of us expected. It turns out it's the worst storm to hit Fort Lauderdale in fifty years - and nobody expected it!
There's a group of five homos, counting me, in the development, and we're all friendly and keep in touch year-round and have been comparing notes today. Only one is a year-round resident, and he called me at 8:00 this morning absolutely terrified. Four of the five of us have major damage - windows gone, water damage, furniture blown away or destroyed - and the fifth has not yet been heard from. Another friend in Wilton Manors has lost part of his roof. God, I have such a blazing headache right now.
Wilma is worst Broward storm in half-century [ October 24, 2005, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: Munson Man ]
Joe in Philly
Oct 24 2005, 02:26 PM
QUOTE
Munson Man:
I'm not sure I understand how Wilma came ashore with 85 mph winds,
Sustained winds were said to be near 125 mph at landfall, not 85, according to the updates from the hurricane center. Of course, how much wind you actually get depends on how close you are to the eye of the storm, particularly the area northwest of the eye, which generally gets the worst winds.
hockeyTom
Oct 24 2005, 07:01 PM
I hear ya'all back there in the northeast are in for some nasty weather tonight and tomorrow, heavy winds rain, and heavy wet snow in the upstate mountains too.
MIB
Oct 24 2005, 07:33 PM
They're calling it a Super Storm, or the Perfect Storm, because it's just like the "perfect storm" after which the movie was patterned.
fenwayguy
Oct 24 2005, 07:41 PM
Ayuh, it's a nor'eastah.
Big'un, too. We'll be getting
heavy rains and winds in the 30-60 mph range all day Tuesday. Not near as bad as what Wilma brought to the eastern Carribean and Florida, though.
[ October 24, 2005, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: fenwayguy ]
Cadillac
Oct 25 2005, 07:43 AM
QUOTE
Munson Man:
I'm not sure I understand how Wilma came ashore with 85 mph winds, then cut acrosee the peninsula, which is supposed to weaken it, and arrived at the Atlantic coast in Broward County with 120 mph winds. That just doesn't make sense, but it corroborates what I've heard from all my neighbors, who were all shocked at how much stronger the storm was than any of us expected. It turns out it's the worst storm to hit Fort Lauderdale in fifty years - and nobody expected it!
There's a group of five homos, counting me, in the development, and we're all friendly and keep in touch year-round and have been comparing notes today. Only one is a year-round resident, and he called me at 8:00 this morning absolutely terrified. Four of the five of us have major damage - windows gone, water damage, furniture blown away or destroyed - and the fifth has not yet been heard from. Another friend in Wilton Manors has lost part of his roof. God, I have such a blazing headache right now.
Wilma is worst Broward storm in half-century It was a fast moving storm and went over the everglades which is basically a big swamp. That's why the storm was still so powerful when it made it to FTL/MIA.
Can't wait to see the premium for homeowners insurance in Florida next year!
Chill-Trick
Oct 25 2005, 08:45 AM
QUOTE
fenwayguy:
Ayuh, it's a nor'eastah.
Big'un, too. We'll be getting
heavy rains and winds in the 30-60 mph range all day Tuesday. Not near as bad as what Wilma brought to the eastern Carribean and Florida, though.
Yup, we're getting the Wemnants of Wilma
KeyWest Guy
Oct 25 2005, 03:11 PM
Hey guys & lezzies! I'm still here. I made out fine except for my car which decided to swim in 3-4 feet of storm surge. Others I know did not fare so well. My ex lost everything with 4 feet of water in the house. The damage was all from storm surge not wind. Entire neighborhoods were swamped literally.
Needless to say, Fantasy Fest is on hold for now. And could someone please turn on my power at home (online at the office right now.)
Joe in Philly
Oct 25 2005, 03:32 PM
Glad to know that you're safe.
I'll get right to work on the power. wink
KeyWest Guy
Oct 25 2005, 07:01 PM
Thanks, JIP--power is now back on!
Since you're working miracles, can you bring my car back from the dead? :cool:
jockpop
Oct 25 2005, 10:05 PM
Very glad to hear from you KWG. Good luck getting dry -- and getting the Fest up and running.
sooners2727
Oct 26 2005, 12:08 AM
[quote]Joe in Philly:
[quote]Originally posted by Munson Man:
[qb] Of course, how much wind you actually get depends on how close you are to the eye of the storm, particularly the area northwest of the eye, which generally gets the worst winds. [/quote]Not to be nit-picky... well yes, I'm going to be nit-picky. It's more accurate to say that the upper-right quadrant contains the worst winds. For example, with Wilma this was to the south and east of the eye (thus why Miami/Ft. Lauderdale was hit so hard).
J eddie
Oct 26 2005, 02:20 PM
I'm wondering about our friend Sterlingman in Miami.Hoping he's okay. frown
MiamiSpartan
Oct 27 2005, 05:55 AM
Got back from Orlando yesterday. Lost 8 large trees, a lot of shingles from the roof, and a glass brick wall that surrounds the back half of the pool, but no major structural damage at least. We got electricity back 24 hours ago.
I heard from our friends who own the houses in Key West, and they have 3 feet of water in both houses, ruining all of their furniture and appliances.
Aubie In Bham
Oct 27 2005, 06:11 AM
Spartan and KWG, I'm glad to hear you guys are ok and not too much damage.
KeyWest Guy
Oct 27 2005, 06:16 AM
Will f--- for transportation. wink
Ok, you're right--I'll do it for nothing usually.
MiamiSpartan
Oct 27 2005, 07:15 AM
Still no power at work. The only traffic jams are in front of gas stations....
Munson Man
Oct 27 2005, 07:48 AM
Power came on east of the Intracoastal in Fort Lauderdale late last night. Nobody's been able to find plywood to board up my six missing windows yet. Of course, the forecast is for rain tonight. I did finally get through to my insurance company, which estimates it'll be up to fourteen days before an adjuster will even call me to make an a appointment to come out and assess my damage. frown
Joe in Philly
Oct 28 2005, 11:37 PM
Storm number 23 is now Hurricane Beta, turning to the west towards the coast of Nicaragua and Honduras. It's already been a problem, and the heavy rains that will cause flash floods and mudslides will be terrible.
Darius
Oct 29 2005, 05:37 AM
This sucks. I was here when Andrew hit, I can only imagine what the people in South Dade County went through. I am in Broward and watching those winds scared me shitless. I live in an old Florida house built in 1952, it still shook. It was crazy. Standing in line for gasoline and other items sort of brings everyone to the same level. I've met nice people, though there was one guy I was too shy to ask out. Anyway... I want my electric back. Cross your fingers.
MiamiSpartan
Oct 29 2005, 06:31 AM
In this morning's Herald, the "experts" say Wilma was a Cat 1 when it hit us! No way is that correct. Katrina was a strong 1 when it hit, and roofs stayed on, shingles were not peeled off, walls did not tumple down, and Royal Palms were not stripped of all their fronds....
MIB
Oct 29 2005, 09:08 AM
MS, what does the NHC say? I think they're word is considered THE official word.
Cajun
Oct 29 2005, 10:32 AM
QUOTE
MiamiSpartan:
In this morning's Herald, the \"experts\" say Wilma was a Cat 1 when it hit us! No way is that correct. Katrina was a strong 1 when it hit, and roofs stayed on, shingles were not peeled off, walls did not tumple down, and Royal Palms were not stripped of all their fronds....
Here's the 5AM Discussion from the NWS for the date of landfall:
QUOTE
ZCZC MIATCDAT4 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
HURRICANE WILMA DISCUSSION NUMBER 36
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM EDT MON OCT 24 2005
IN SPITE OF ITS VERY LARGE RAGGED EYE...WILMA HAS CONTINUED TO
INTENSIFY AND BASED ON DOPPLER AND AIRCRAFT DATA...IT IS NOW A
HIGH-END CAT. 3...110-KT...HURRICANE. AIRCRAFT FLIGHT LEVEL WINDS
WERE AS HIGH AS 135 KT EARLIER BUT DOPPLER RADAR OBSERVATIONS
INDICATE THAT THESE WINDS WERE LIKELY ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSIENT
MESOSCALE FEATURES. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN INTENSITY ARE LIKELY
PRIOR TO LANDFALL. AFTER CROSSING FLORIDA...WILMA SHOULD
TRANSITION INTO A POWERFUL EXTRATROPICAL STORM WITHIN A COUPLE OF
DAYS AS IT INTERACTS WITH AN INTENSE BAROCLINIC TROUGH OVER THE
EASTERN UNITED STATES.
RECON AND RADAR FIXES INDICATE THAT THE MOTION IS ABOUT 050/17.
ACCELERATION IS FORECAST AS WILMA IS BECOMING CAUGHT IN THE
SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE ABOVEMENTIONED TROUGH.
TRACK GUIDANCE MODELS ARE IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT FOR THE NEXT 24
HOURS OR SO OF THE FORECAST AND DIVERGE THEREAFTER AS THE MODELS
DISAGREE ON HOW WILMA WILL INTERACT WITH THE HIGHER LATITUDE FLOW.
NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE NHC FORECAST TRACK HAVE BEEN MADE
OVER THE FIRST 24 HOURS OR SO. THE LATTER PART OF THE OFFICIAL
FORECAST IS A LITTLE EAST OF THE PREVIOUS TRACK... OVER THE NORTH
ATLANTIC.
THE FORECAST TRACK TAKES WILMA INLAND IN A FEW HOURS. PEOPLE IN
SOUTHERN FLORIDA SHOULD BE MINDFUL THAT DESTRUCTIVE WINDS AND LARGE
STORM SURGES ARE OCCURRING WELL AWAY FROM THE CENTER...PARTICULARLY
OVER THE SOUTHERN SEMICIRCLE OF THE HURRICANE.
FORECASTER PASCH
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 24/0900Z 25.5N 82.4W 110 KT
12HR VT 24/1800Z 27.9N 79.0W 85 KT
24HR VT 25/0600Z 32.9N 73.1W 75 KT
36HR VT 25/1800Z 39.0N 66.5W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
48HR VT 26/0600Z 44.0N 60.0W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
72HR VT 27/0600Z 47.5N 51.0W 55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
96HR VT 28/0600Z 48.0N 40.0W 55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
120HR VT 29/0600Z 48.0N 29.0W 50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
It shows Wilma with 110KT winds, or a "high-end Cat. 3" Storm. This would convert to 125MPH sustained winds.......
[ October 29, 2005, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: Cajun ]
Cajun
Oct 29 2005, 10:37 AM
But by 11AM that morning, they had lowered the sustained winds to 90KTS, or about 110MPH, still Cat. 2, before it left the SouthEast Florida Coast:
QUOTE
ZCZC MIATCDAT4 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
HURRICANE WILMA DISCUSSION NUMBER 37
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT MON OCT 24 2005
THE GEOMETRIC CENTER OF THE LARGE EYE OF WILMA IS NOW MOVING OFF THE
COAST OF SOUTHEASTERN FLORIDA NEAR PALM BEACH. HOWEVER...THE EYE
REMAINS QUITE LARGE AND COMPLETELY INTACT... EVEN ON THE WEST OR
BACK SIDE THAT IS STILL OVER THE PENINSULA. SOME INLAND AREAS HAVE
BEEN EXPERIENCING A RELATIVE CALM PERIOD... BUT ONE THAT IS FAIRLY
SHORT-LIVED DUE TO THE FAST NORTHEASTWARD MOTION OF ABOUT 22 KT.
WINDS IN THE WESTERN EYEWALL REMAIN JUST ABOUT AS STRONG AS ON THE
EAST SIDE. NWS MIAMI WSR-88D RADAR VELOCITIES STILL INDICATE WINDS
NEAR 120 KT AT ABOUT 5000 FT OVER LAND. EVEN STRONGER WINDS ARE
PROBABLY STILL OCCURRING OVER WATER... AND THE INTENSITY IS LOWERED
ONLY SLIGHTLY TO 90 KT. SURFACE OBSERVATIONS THROUGHOUT FLORIDA
INDICATE THE SYSTEM REMAINS LARGE... AND NONE OF THE WARNINGS FOR
THE FLORIDA PENINSULA CAN YET BE DISCONTINUED. ONLY A GRADUAL
WEAKENING IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. WILMA SHOULD
TRANSFORM INTO A POWERFUL EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN A DAY OR TWO
AS IT INTERACTS WITH AN INTENSE BAROCLINIC TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN
UNITED STATES. THE TRACK AND INTENSITY FORECASTS ARE ESSENTIALLY
JUST UPDATES OF THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY... EXCEPT TO SPEED UP THE
FORECAST SLIGHTLY TO KEEP UP WITH THE DYNAMICAL MODEL CONSENSUS.
FORECASTER KNABB
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 24/1500Z 26.9N 80.0W 90 KT
12HR VT 25/0000Z 30.3N 75.8W 85 KT
24HR VT 25/1200Z 36.1N 68.9W 70 KT
36HR VT 26/0000Z 42.1N 61.6W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
48HR VT 26/1200Z 44.9N 55.7W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
72HR VT 27/1200Z 46.5N 44.0W 55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
96HR VT 28/1200Z 47.5N 36.0W 55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
120HR VT 29/1200Z 49.0N 25.0W 50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
MIB
Oct 29 2005, 10:40 AM
This sounds common: the hurricane makes landfall here as a Cat. 3, then weakens as it crosses over FL., being over land. Because it was moving so rapidly, however, it weakened only to a Cat. 2 it appears.
SoFlaSpartan
Oct 29 2005, 05:15 PM
Okay, just got my cable back (and with it, my net access). Never lost phone, though cell access has been sporadic. Still have no power -- living on a generator, BUT I was smart enough after the two hurricanes last year to install a gas water heater, so showers have been no problem (and I'm currently everybody's favorite neighbor, since I've been allowing them to shower -- they're keeping me well fed).
Yeah, it sucks being on a curfew -- I actually stayed HOME on a Friday night instead of going out looking for strange men to do lewd things to, like I USUALLY do on Friday nights, but I'm making do.... wink
MiamiSpartan
Oct 29 2005, 07:35 PM
I've got my BOSS coming down to spend some nights at our house, since he lost part of his roof in Ft Lauderdale...should be interesting...
Joe in Philly
Oct 29 2005, 10:55 PM
QUOTE
MiamiSpartan:
In this morning's Herald, the \"experts\" say Wilma was a Cat 1 when it hit us! No way is that correct. Katrina was a strong 1 when it hit, and roofs stayed on, shingles were not peeled off, walls did not tumple down, and Royal Palms were not stripped of all their fronds....
I think I found the article you were talking about...
Link here. It's interesting reading. I can see winds in one area being only cat 1 even if winds in other areas were cat 2 or 3 -- it depends on a lot of things. One thing I read is that because the storm picked up speed and was moving at 25 mph as it crossed Florida, areas in the southeast quadrant of the storm suffered worse effects because the speed of the storm's movement added to the speed of the winds.
MIB
Oct 30 2005, 07:16 PM
TIVO/VCR alert: Tuesday, Nov. 1 @ 9:00 p.m. EST, the National Geographic Channel will run a special called "Inside Hurricane Katrina" featuring never before seen footage and a bunch of other cool stuff.
Check it out.
Darius
Nov 1 2005, 04:04 AM
What about inside "Hurricane Wilma" who has still left many people with their lives in a mess? Still no power, buildings trashed, landscape lost. My friends in Orlando think that everything is back to normal. I assure you it's not.
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