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Can anyone see another team beating the Seattle Seahawks in this division? I see Seattle going 12-4, Arizona 9-7, St. Louis 8-8, and San Fran 4-12
Hmmm... I see the division going more like this:
1. Seattle
2. St. Louis
3. Arizona
4. San Francisco
Seeing as how San Francisco didn't exactly trade up or draft so well, most everyone with a good nose for football has agreed that they're the cellar-dwellers in this division.
1. Seattle
2. St. Louis
3. Arizona
4. San Francisco
Seeing as how San Francisco didn't exactly trade up or draft so well, most everyone with a good nose for football has agreed that they're the cellar-dwellers in this division.
You might be right about St. Louis in 2nd. Having gotten rid of Mike Martz (which was smart) they could have a new attitude. Arizona should improve but do they have a defense? Still, nobody will touch Seattle barring injuries by Hasselbeck and/or Alexander.
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scottmet99:
Can anyone see another team beating the Seattle Seahawks in this division?
Not in my wildest dreams.
Can anyone see another team beating the Seattle Seahawks in this division?
Do you think the Seattle Seahawks will break the curse and make the Super Bowl again?
It's definitely possible. They're certainly a top contender.
[ September 03, 2006, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: FireCharlieManuelNow ]
[ September 03, 2006, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: FireCharlieManuelNow ]
The Rams, Cards, and 49ers couldn't catch the Seahawks if they started this very second. The outcome in this division is as close as you can come to a sure bet. There's a huge talent discrepancy between Seattle and the other three teams at every position.
As for a return to the Superbowl, the biggest obstacle is the Carolina Panthers. That team is also stacked at every position.
As for a return to the Superbowl, the biggest obstacle is the Carolina Panthers. That team is also stacked at every position.
I see the NFC Championship game being Seattle vs. Carolina with Carolina taking it this year.
While this division may not be so competitive, the NFC East is. Don't discount the winner of that division from going all the way to the NFC championship game. It won't be such a cake walk for Seattle to make the Super Bowl this year.
While I see them potentially going all the way to the big game, it isn't going to be easy by any stretch of the imagination.
While I see them potentially going all the way to the big game, it isn't going to be easy by any stretch of the imagination.
Luckily the Seahawks are in the NFC West, which practically assures them a spot in the playoffs and perhaps even a bye the first week of the playoffs. Besides, this year they have the third easiest schedule, I heard.
The other three teams seem to be in rebuild mode (Arizona is trying to perfect their offense, but what's going on with the defense? St. Louis is trying, going on MANY years now, to put together a defense. And SF? Wow, they're DECADES from being any good. AND they cut hottie Cody Pickett from UW!) and the Seahawks are returning the basic core of last year's Superbowl team, plus Nate Burleson at wide receiver and Julius Peterson on defense.
Yeah, so I'm a diehard Seahawks fan and am a bit biased, but c'mon, they shredded the Panthers in the Championship game last season. What says they can't do the same this year (although, there will be some key match-ups as in battling the Giants and Denver)?
Oh yeah, and ESPN have the Hawks numero uno in power rankings right now.
The other three teams seem to be in rebuild mode (Arizona is trying to perfect their offense, but what's going on with the defense? St. Louis is trying, going on MANY years now, to put together a defense. And SF? Wow, they're DECADES from being any good. AND they cut hottie Cody Pickett from UW!) and the Seahawks are returning the basic core of last year's Superbowl team, plus Nate Burleson at wide receiver and Julius Peterson on defense.
Yeah, so I'm a diehard Seahawks fan and am a bit biased, but c'mon, they shredded the Panthers in the Championship game last season. What says they can't do the same this year (although, there will be some key match-ups as in battling the Giants and Denver)?
Oh yeah, and ESPN have the Hawks numero uno in power rankings right now.
The way their season opener went yesterday, the Seahawks have a lot of work to do if they want to repeat as NFC champs.
I agree with you, and in day after comments I just read, Holmgren pretty much agreed. But compared to the season opening loss they had last season, I will take the win Sunday, even though it was not of the spectacular variety.
Horrible win for the Seahawks on Sunday. Just fugly. I think the biggest mistake was losing Hutchinson. That was evident on sunday as Pork Chop Womak had his ass handed to him by Detroit. With Womak having an awful day, Walter Jones had to make up by not only blocking his guy, but Womak's assignment as well. The kicking game needs work. The offense just looked out of sync and I'm chalking it up to it being the first game of the year. Although it didn't look like it, Hasselbeck still managed to go 25/30 210. The offense should be better this week.
If Detroit had a Quarterback, they would have won this game. Their defense played well, but the offense...eek. I do like the running style of Kevin Jones.
I like the addition of Deion Branch. With Branch, Jackson, Burleson and Engram, the Seahawks have a solid core of receivers. D-Jack needs to stay healthy. Last year, Jackson & engram were both out for a stretch mid-season so hopefully this season, they stay healthy. Once Jerramy Stevens returns, the offense should really be clicking.
Seahawks have a history of starting slow. They have a horrible first game record so I'll take the win (on the road and the first game of a new coach & Mike Martz offense) even if it was fugly.
If Detroit had a Quarterback, they would have won this game. Their defense played well, but the offense...eek. I do like the running style of Kevin Jones.
I like the addition of Deion Branch. With Branch, Jackson, Burleson and Engram, the Seahawks have a solid core of receivers. D-Jack needs to stay healthy. Last year, Jackson & engram were both out for a stretch mid-season so hopefully this season, they stay healthy. Once Jerramy Stevens returns, the offense should really be clicking.
Seahawks have a history of starting slow. They have a horrible first game record so I'll take the win (on the road and the first game of a new coach & Mike Martz offense) even if it was fugly.
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Horrible win for the Seahawks on Sunday. Just fugly. I think the biggest mistake was losing Hutchinson. That was evident on sunday as Pork Chop Womak had his ass handed to him by Detroit. With Womak having an awful day, Walter Jones had to make up by not only blocking his guy, but Womak's assignment as well. The kicking game needs work. The offense just looked out of sync and I'm chalking it up to it being the first game of the year. Although it didn't look like it, Hasselbeck still managed to go 25/30 210. The offense should be better this week.
If Detroit had a Quarterback, they would have won this game. Their defense played well, but the offense...eek. I do like the running style of Kevin Jones.
I like the addition of Deion Branch. With Branch, Jackson, Burleson and Engram, the Seahawks have a solid core of receivers. D-Jack needs to stay healthy. Last year, Jackson & engram were both out for a stretch mid-season so hopefully this season, they stay healthy. Once Jerramy Stevens returns, the offense should really be clicking.
Seahawks have a history of starting slow. They have a horrible first game record so I'll take the win (on the road and the first game of a new coach & Mike Martz offense) even if it was fugly.
I agree with all you said. Believe me, it comes down to a road win, which is a good thing. We were lucky to get that win and I am happy to return home. The addition of Branch and Stevens returning next week should help things.
Horrible win for the Seahawks on Sunday. Just fugly. I think the biggest mistake was losing Hutchinson. That was evident on sunday as Pork Chop Womak had his ass handed to him by Detroit. With Womak having an awful day, Walter Jones had to make up by not only blocking his guy, but Womak's assignment as well. The kicking game needs work. The offense just looked out of sync and I'm chalking it up to it being the first game of the year. Although it didn't look like it, Hasselbeck still managed to go 25/30 210. The offense should be better this week.
If Detroit had a Quarterback, they would have won this game. Their defense played well, but the offense...eek. I do like the running style of Kevin Jones.
I like the addition of Deion Branch. With Branch, Jackson, Burleson and Engram, the Seahawks have a solid core of receivers. D-Jack needs to stay healthy. Last year, Jackson & engram were both out for a stretch mid-season so hopefully this season, they stay healthy. Once Jerramy Stevens returns, the offense should really be clicking.
Seahawks have a history of starting slow. They have a horrible first game record so I'll take the win (on the road and the first game of a new coach & Mike Martz offense) even if it was fugly.
So how about these Cardinals coming to town? The "pros" on ESPN (though I can't stand ANY of them except Jon Clayton. Sean Salsbury was a loser in the NFL and an absolute idiot on ESPN, always so cocky and thinking he's the end-all, say-all in his opinions. Ugh he makes me ill) pick the Seahawks and I have to agree. Alexander always has good games against Arizona, and even though Arizona has a revamped offense that's being praised, their defense hasn't done much to help itself. And at home, I believe Seattle has the best record over the last three years.
I pick Seattle to win, 28-17.
I pick Seattle to win, 28-17.
The line is Hawks by 6 at home. If it were in Arizona, it would be a tossup in my opinion, but at home, all Hawks!! 
Looking forward to hearing the crowd noise.
[ September 15, 2006, 05:35 AM: Message edited by: hockeyTom ]
Looking forward to hearing the crowd noise.[ September 15, 2006, 05:35 AM: Message edited by: hockeyTom ]
Although Arizona is better, they still have issues on defense. They let San Francisco move the ball around on them and SF is not exactly an offensive jauggernaut. And they are not a good road team. Well, actually, it's been forever since they've been a good team.
You should see a better Seahawk team this week. My biggest concern is watching the play of the offensive line. They must protect Hasselbeck better than they did last week. Ashworth probably got more practice time this week just in case Womak gets his ass handed to him like last week.
Still, I think Seattle should win this game
28-17.
You should see a better Seahawk team this week. My biggest concern is watching the play of the offensive line. They must protect Hasselbeck better than they did last week. Ashworth probably got more practice time this week just in case Womak gets his ass handed to him like last week.
Still, I think Seattle should win this game
28-17.
A better Hawks victory than last week against Detroit, but.....the offense, still is not in sync, or something. They started out really strong, and suddenly its 14-0 Hawks, then the offense sputters for almost 2 periods, before re-emerging. Fortunately the defense was rock solid and up to the task for the most part. The secondaries had an awesome game! They caused all kinds of havoc...Hawks still don't look like the same team that finished last year...just yet. Gotta few bugs to work out. Hopefully they will by next week when the Giants come to town.
[ September 18, 2006, 05:20 AM: Message edited by: hockeyTom ]
[ September 18, 2006, 05:20 AM: Message edited by: hockeyTom ]
Yet another ugly win.
Although the defense was again sensational, it was their fault the majority of Arizona's turnovers weren't properly awarded to Seattle. I think they have a tendency to get too cocky; but who can blame them? This defense is incredible, just ask Kurt Warner who by game's end was visibly frustrated and emotional.
Porkchop is out 4-6 weeks now, but Deion Branch will play next week against New York. I believe NY has the potential to come into Seattle and win, primarily to avenge their embarrassingly sloppy loss last year here. Oh, and who didn't see them hand Philly a disturbing come-from-behind loss on Sunday? They're very dangerous.
Still, however, I believe Holmgren will put an end to a disappointing 2-0 start by having his guys prepped for the juggernaut NY Giants.
My pick: Seattle over NY, 20-17.
Although the defense was again sensational, it was their fault the majority of Arizona's turnovers weren't properly awarded to Seattle. I think they have a tendency to get too cocky; but who can blame them? This defense is incredible, just ask Kurt Warner who by game's end was visibly frustrated and emotional.
Porkchop is out 4-6 weeks now, but Deion Branch will play next week against New York. I believe NY has the potential to come into Seattle and win, primarily to avenge their embarrassingly sloppy loss last year here. Oh, and who didn't see them hand Philly a disturbing come-from-behind loss on Sunday? They're very dangerous.
Still, however, I believe Holmgren will put an end to a disappointing 2-0 start by having his guys prepped for the juggernaut NY Giants.
My pick: Seattle over NY, 20-17.
Its gonna be some game, and if you think Quest field was loud before. Just wait....I am so stoked for this game.
Sahwn Alexander is listed as "probable" for a start Sunday against the Giants. I understand his foot was injured during the game last week. According to Holmgren he is taking a few practices off to rest the foot. I would bet he will be there if push comes to shove. I certainly hope so, as his services will be needed.
I still think the Seahawks will win this division, but I've lost a lot of faith in my prediction. So far, they haven't looked as good as I thought they would. They've played two very average teams and struggled against both of Them. Hasselback is interception-prone, probably because the O-line is not playing particularly well. Philly showed how to beat the Giants, pressure, pressure , and more pressure, but the Seattle D is not married to the blitz; they won't gamble with the jailhouse blitz as much as the Eagles did last week. But if they can't slow down Tiki,, and especially if they can't pressure Eli, the Giants will win. So, I think this game will be decided based on how well the Seattle defense plays. If they get into a high scoring game, the Giants will win; they have more play-makers on offense. In other words, Seattle can not fall behind early. If they do, Shaun Alexander, their best offensive weapon, will never see the field in the second half.
[ September 21, 2006, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Thomas ]
[ September 21, 2006, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Thomas ]
I think the game will be a slugfest. Hasselbeck will be vulnerable due to Hutchinson gone and Pork Chop out. But I think the offense will capitalize on the Giants weak defense. My pick is Seattle 27 Giants 21
Well, the Seahawks offense looked great and finally got untracked. Good thing there wasn't another quarter though. If the Giants played hurry up offense more, they may have won. But overall, a very satisfying win for the Hawks. Next up, the Bears. This will be a HUGE test.
If the Giants played hurry up offense more, they may have won. But overall, a very satisfying win for the Hawks. Next up, the Bears. This will be a HUGE test.
For the life of me, I couldn't understand why Alexander continued to play so much yesterday when it was clearly visible how much his foot was bothering him. I am assuming he would not sit down, and wanted to play here, but still good Lord Shawn!!!! 
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For the life of me, I couldn't understand why Alexander continued to play so much yesterday when it was clearly visible how much his foot was bothering him. I am assuming he would not sit down, and wanted to play here, but still good Lord Shawn!!!!
And considering how much the Seahawks were kickin the Vagies around, it's not like he was needed or anything.
Really boneheaded decsion to leave him in, from possibly both Holmgren and himself. Many fans out here were surpised by him staying in for so long, when he didn't look that great. So now, the team pays the price for several games it sounds like. 
According to an article in the Spokane Spokesman-Review this morning, Alexander has a broken left foot, and will be out for two weeks. Damn!!!!!! 
Looks like the Matt Leinart era may begin in Arizona this Sunday against the Falcons. As long as he doesn't drop the pill, he may stay atop the chart in Arizona, whose stadium will now be known as the Univ. of Phoenix Stadium, so no Pink Tacos for you!
Call me clueless, but what IS a "vagie" in relation to the NY Giants?
Anyway, it was apparent Alexander was hurting in the Giants game, but nobody really is to blame. I think it was PTI, or Around the Horn, today that stated he actually hurt his foot in the season opened in Detroit. At that point it was just a bruise, and then continued stress on the foot (it's said the broken bone in his foot is not critical to movement, as it's "non-weightbearing") just became worse.
I'm more worried about Chicago this upcoming week. On the plus side, the Seahawks' offense finally got on-track against NY, but I'm worried about how they're going to stack up against one of the best defenses in the NFL since Lovie Smith replaced Dick Juron. I do like the four-receiver set possibility for Holmgren, as it's suited him well in the past in Green Bay. I also like Mo Morris, from what I saw in the pre-season anyway. And it doesn't hurt that Chicago's offense is week-in and week-out suspect. I see this game as a slugfest, much like the Jacksonville-Pittsburgh game two Monday night's ago.
And as much as I love the Seahawks, I must pick Chicago to win this one, 13-10.
Anyway, it was apparent Alexander was hurting in the Giants game, but nobody really is to blame. I think it was PTI, or Around the Horn, today that stated he actually hurt his foot in the season opened in Detroit. At that point it was just a bruise, and then continued stress on the foot (it's said the broken bone in his foot is not critical to movement, as it's "non-weightbearing") just became worse.
I'm more worried about Chicago this upcoming week. On the plus side, the Seahawks' offense finally got on-track against NY, but I'm worried about how they're going to stack up against one of the best defenses in the NFL since Lovie Smith replaced Dick Juron. I do like the four-receiver set possibility for Holmgren, as it's suited him well in the past in Green Bay. I also like Mo Morris, from what I saw in the pre-season anyway. And it doesn't hurt that Chicago's offense is week-in and week-out suspect. I see this game as a slugfest, much like the Jacksonville-Pittsburgh game two Monday night's ago.
And as much as I love the Seahawks, I must pick Chicago to win this one, 13-10.
I too love the Hawks, but see the Bears eeking out a win over Seattle here. Hawks prove me WRONG!!!!!!
Damn, another article about Alexanders condition this morning. Sounds like he is lost for potentially weeks. 
This division certainly grew more interesting today. While the underachieving Cardinals and hapless 49'ers sank below the surface, St. Louis is early giving Seattle a run for the marbles. I've doubted the Rams' offense so far, as it's pretty-much sputtered up until today. 41 points, though, against anybody is good news. Seattle, on the other hand, were manhandled in a manner I haven't seen in quite a while. 37-6? Y'know what they say: beat the teams you're supposed to (which the Hawks have thus far, and generally do), but play competitively against those better and prove yourself. Seattle certainly didn't do that tonight. Seriously, the Hawks looked AWful.
The next test this early in the season comes in two weeks when Seattle travels to St. Louis.
Whatta you guys think???
The next test this early in the season comes in two weeks when Seattle travels to St. Louis.
Whatta you guys think???
I thought Seattle would run away with this division no contest. But the Rams have been doing all right against some lighter opponents (save that 49'ers game, yeesh) and Seattle is in a lot of trouble due to the Madden curse.
U-G-L-Y-. Can you say it?? That was hideous. Matt Hasselbeck gets bonehead of the week award. This team looked nothing like the Superbowl contenders of last year. They looked like the Seahawks of about 3-4 years ago. In a word: INEPT. I couldn't stand to watch this debacle any more and sadly had to turn this baby over not long after it started. This maybe what the Hawks need though, for motivation or something. But they looked totally lost without Alexander.
Flipout of the Week Award goes to....
Dennis Green, head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.
After a reported asked him if the Chicago Bears really lived up to their hype, Denny completely flipped out in his response and siad if the press wanted to crown them, then they should do it already. Come on, Denny. Your team had the lead and your team blew it. Sorry, there buck stops with you, Denny. You get this week's most coveted award after last week's deserving winner, T.O.
Dennis Green, head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.
After a reported asked him if the Chicago Bears really lived up to their hype, Denny completely flipped out in his response and siad if the press wanted to crown them, then they should do it already. Come on, Denny. Your team had the lead and your team blew it. Sorry, there buck stops with you, Denny. You get this week's most coveted award after last week's deserving winner, T.O.
Hey, Denny's got every right to be frustrated and dumbstruck after that loss to Chicago; his butt is in hot water and various rumors have him getting canned if the front office isn't content with the team's performance this season.
But I don't really see their performance as HIS fault (although ultimately the head coach DOES face the brunt of all of a team's problems); Arizona is a graveyard for coaches (who was the last "decent" one to come from there, Jim Fossel? How ironic after his firing this week). Green's a good coach and Leinart looks like he's the real deal (whatta MAN, too; yum!) so hopefully the team will finish well.
I just hope they don't beat the Hawks.
But I don't really see their performance as HIS fault (although ultimately the head coach DOES face the brunt of all of a team's problems); Arizona is a graveyard for coaches (who was the last "decent" one to come from there, Jim Fossel? How ironic after his firing this week). Green's a good coach and Leinart looks like he's the real deal (whatta MAN, too; yum!) so hopefully the team will finish well.
I just hope they don't beat the Hawks.
The blame has to be shared between the Arizona players and Dennis Green. The players committed the fumbles that allowed the Chicago defense to score, and their special teams clearly let them down on the punt return that resulted in a touchdown. But it was Green's decision to shut down the offense in the fourth quarter and play for the field goal. That was probably a mistake; especially with an inconsistent and emotional kicker. If the Philly/ Giants game taught us anything, it's that you can never have too many points. So, if Green made a mistake, I think handcuffing Leinart on the Cards last offensive series was it. The melt-down is understandable. Hopefully, he will learn from it.
Edgerrin James ran 36 times and got only 55 yards -- the most carries in an NFL game by a player while averaging less than 2 yards per attempt, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. That's the opposite of Andy Reid's throw-happy offense. Utterly dumb.
Fortunately the Seahawks play in the NFC West where, thanks to their lax schedule and lack of relative competition (the closest resemblance of which is St. Louis, who like the Hawks, possess quite a porous defense), will end up limping to the division title. There, however, they will most likely get pummeled by a stronger NFC team. One shouldn't worry, however, as a team from the AFC seems a shoe-in to claim the Lombardi trophy.
Regardless, the pathetic state of affairs in the NFC West is shameful.
Regardless, the pathetic state of affairs in the NFC West is shameful.
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