patterson
Sep 30 2002, 06:38 PM
SO utterly satisfying to see St. Louis coming apart at the seams?
p2insdca
Oct 1 2002, 10:08 AM
I do not know, but I too am overjoyed to see the wheels come off.
Boltergeist
Oct 1 2002, 10:20 AM
I'm finding it doubly sweet here .... living in St. Louis, hating the Rams PLUS the Chargers being the only 4-0 team in the NFL. The St. Louis press was making it seem like the Rams became the Bengals after week 1, now that might be a compliment.
Jim Allen
Oct 1 2002, 10:29 AM
Well, I'm not quite at the same level of schadenfreude that y'all are re: the Rams because they simply cannot compare to the loathsome, vile Ravens of Baltimore's Super Bowl year when it comes to title of "Team You Love to Hate". I truly LOVED seeing that team decimated by cap related defections, using Elvis etc.
I think the Rams got a tad big-headed after their Super Bowl win; they acted like they had single-handedly invented the passing game in football. Of course, Mike "Genius" Marz basically inherited Vermeil's team and rode to the Lombardi Trophy with them but he's looking very mortal these days.
And the Rams buggered off to St. Louis for this? They could have been mediocre in Orange County just as easily.
sportinlife
Oct 1 2002, 11:55 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Jim Allen:
Well, I'm not quite at the same level of schadenfreude that y'all are
Have to admit I was put off long ago by Kurt Warner's "i'm-goin'-to heaven-and-you-should follow-me-to-get-there" attitude.
The presumption of spiritual superiority of evangelists doesn't bother me so much as the assumption of depravity in anyone who disagrees with their interpretations.
curtj
Oct 1 2002, 12:06 PM
Schadenfreude has got to be one of my all time favorite words. Using it here in the context of football makes me all tingly...
Jim Allen
Oct 1 2002, 03:30 PM
It is a great word, isn't it? I speak a tiny bit of German but even I was amazed to see a 56-letter German word a few years ago; they just cram a bunch of words together. It was for a power plant on the Ruhr.
What Sportinlife wrote.
Skiguy
Oct 1 2002, 04:03 PM
As a life-long Red Sox fan, it is only schadenfreude that allows me to enjoy baseball.
As for the German language, Mark Twain wrote a famous and very funny essay about it. Here's his take on the lnegth of German words:
That paragraph furnishes a text for a few remarks about one of the most curious and notable features of my subject -- the length of German words. Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. Observe these examples:
Freundschaftsbezeigungen.
Dilettantenaufdringlichkeiten.
Stadtverordnetenversammlungen.
These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions. And they are not rare; one can open a German newspaper at any time and see them marching majestically across the page, -- and if he has any imagination he can see the banners and hear the music, too. They impart a martial thrill to the meekest subject. I take a great interest in these curiosities. Whenever I come across a good one, I stuff it and put it in my museum. In this way I have made quite a valuable collection. When I get duplicates, I exchange with other collectors, and thus increase the variety of my stock. Here rare some specimens which I lately bought at an auction sale of the effects of a bankrupt bric-a-brac hunter:
Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen.
Alterthumswissenschaften.
Kinderbewahrungsanstalten.
Unabhaengigkeitserklaerungen.
Wiedererstellungbestrebungen.
Waffenstillstandsunterhandlungen.
Of course when one of these grand mountain ranges goes stretching across the printed page, it adorns and ennobles that literary landscape -- but at the same time it is a great distress to the new student, for it blocks up his way; he cannot crawl under it, or climb over it, or tunnel through it. So he resorts to the dictionary for help, but there is no help there. The dictionary must draw the line somewhere -- so it leaves this sort of words out. And it is right, because these long things are hardly legitimate words, but are rather combinations of words, and the inventor of them ought to have been killed. They are compound words with the hyphens left out. The various words used in building them are in the dictionary, but in a very scattered condition; so you can hunt the materials out, one by one, and get at the meaning at last, but it is a tedious and harassing business. I have tried this process upon some of the above examples. "Freundshaftsbezeigungen" seems to be "Friendship demonstrations," which is only a foolish and clumsy way of saying "demonstrations of friendship." "Unabhaengigkeitserklaerungen" seems to be "Independencedeclarations," which is no improvement upon "Declarations of Independence," so far as I can see. "Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen" seems to be "General-statesrepresentativesmeetings," as nearly as I can get at it -- a mere rhythmical, gushy euphuism for "meetings of the legislature," I judge. We used to have a good deal of this sort of crime in our literature, but it has gone out now. We used to speak of a things as a "never-to-be-forgotten" circumstance, instead of cramping it into the simple and sufficient word "memorable" and then going calmly about our business as if nothing had happened. In those days we were not content to embalm the thing and bury it decently, we wanted to build a monument over it.
But in our newspapers the compounding-disease lingers a little to the present day, but with the hyphens left out, in the German fashion. This is the shape it takes: instead of saying "Mr. Simmons, clerk of the county and district courts, was in town yesterday," the new form puts it thus: "Clerk of the County and District Courts Simmons was in town yesterday." This saves neither time nor ink, and has an awkward sound besides. One often sees a remark like this in our papers: "Mrs. Assistant District Attorney Johnson returned to her city residence yesterday for the season." That is a case of really unjustifiable compounding; because it not only saves no time or trouble, but confers a title on Mrs. Johnson which she has no right to. But these little instances are trifles indeed, contrasted with the ponderous and dismal German system of piling jumbled compounds together. I wish to submit the following local item, from a Mannheim journal, by way of illustration:
"In the daybeforeyesterdayshortlyaftereleveno'clock Night, the inthistownstandingtavern called 'The Wagoner' was downburnt. When the fire to the onthedownburninghouseresting Stork's Nest reached, flew the parent Storks away. But when the bytheraging, firesurrounded Nest itself caught Fire, straightway plunged the quickreturning Mother-Stork into the Flames and died, her Wings over her young ones outspread."
Even the cumbersome German construction is not able to take the pathos out of that picture, -- indeed, it somehow seems to strengthen it. This item is dated away back yonder months ago. I could have used it sooner, but I was waiting to hear from the Father-stork. I am still waiting.
Twain concluded that if German was to remain unchahnged, then it ought to be set aside amongst the dead languages, "for only the dead have time to learn it."