On CBS, no mention of Browns owner passing last week. A billionaire that in June donated 100 million dollars to the Cleve Clinic, who grew up in New York; and considering the NY Jets are playing the Browns today, you'd think it would at least BE MENTIONED.

Al Lerner dies

In July when Cleve Indians trainer Jimmy Warfield died suddenly during his 30 some year career, plus being a very healthy man; no mention hardly in the news:

J.Warfield dies

I guess it's ok for other cities to get mentioned in the news and have pity parties (ex St Louis cardinal announcer) but if it's Cleveland WHO CARES HO HUM IT'S ONLY CLEVELAND

Actually, it was mentioned on CBS just before halftime of the Jets - Browns game, and a picture of Lerner was shown on the screen. Admittedly, it was not headline-making news anywhere, but I think that had more to do with the fact that Lerner's tenure as an NFL owner was only a few years long.

There was a very reverent segment on ESPN's NFL Countdown this morning as well. Explaining how he was almost single-handedly responsible for getting football back to Cleveland in '99. It's a big loss for Cleveland and for the NFL.

Maddog

I was saddened by Lerner's death but it was more important locally than nationally- although there was a lot of coverage of the St. Louis conmmmentator's death earlier this yr. I never heard of him- but he did serve a lot of yrs. in that capacity.

Yes they did make mention at halftime, and ALSO after the game was over. The profesionally made "A.L." patches were very large, I don't know how camera crews could have missed them... I just think it would have been a nice story to show how the Browns were very close to this owner, he was a cool guy that would talk to players one on one, and the Browns were dedicating this game to him, even though it was on the road...It looks like that determination paid off GREAT WIN TODAY !!

Don't slam Jack Buck because of perceived media oversight of Lerner (who was given prominent play in many newspapers around the country, even though his tenure among the NFL owners is relatively short).

Jack Buck garnered quite a bit of attention because he is in the BASEBALL HALL OF FAME. He was one of the longest-serving (1954-2002) and most distinguished broadcasters in his field, calling St. Louis baseball Cardinals games on the radio and TV through the era of the Cardinals' major World Series periods (the 1960s under Schoendienst with Brock, Gibson, Boyer, McCarver, Shannon, etc.) and the 1980s (under Herzog with Ozzie Smith, Coleman, Tudor, etc.). From 1961-69 he broadcast Cardinals games with Harry Caray, a combo many sportswriters think may have been one of the best of all time.

He also called a number of other sports, like football (he called the first AFL game in 1960, Monday Night Football on the radio, as well as 17 Super Bowls), basketball (the St. Louis Hawks), ice hockey (the Blues' first season), as well as MLB playoff and Series games on radio throughout his career. Buck, BTW, grew up in Cleveland. One of the very best of all time in his field.

The NJ paper which I work for wrote this article in our paper today about the late Cleveland owner.

http://northjersey.com/page.php?level_3_id...19&page=5452738

Josh

Thanks js1metsfan for the link

Fantomas - Al Lerner brought himself up from nothing to Billionaire, yet remained a kind man; served in the Military, and donated hundreds of millions of dollars to many charities; hardly compares to broadcasting baseball

p.s. if Georgia Frontier died the story would be shoved down our throats for months

[quote]Originally posted by osufan:
Thanks js1metsfan for the link

Fantomas - Al Lerner brought himself up from nothing to Billionaire, yet remained a kind man; served in the Military, and donated hundreds of millions of dollars to many charities; hardly compares to broadcasting baseball

p.s. if Georgia Frontier died the story would be shoved down our throats for months

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Frontiere. Georgia Frontiere--and yes, you'd here more about it because her life is quite colorful. None of Lerner's spouses died under mysterious circumstances.

Stop complaining, please, and dishonoring the memory of a major figure in Major League Baseball and professional sports. If Lerner were around the AFL, NFL, or the combined league when Buck started broadcasting--like Jack Kent Cook, Wellington Mara, Bill Bidwell, Carroll Rosenbloom or his showgirl widow Georgia, etc.--you'd be hearing more about him. Lerner's gesture to Cleveland was wonderful, and his death is sad. Let's leave it at that.

The Indians trainer was mentioned in the papers here in Los Angeles and on ESPN. How do I know this? Because the stories mentioned Jim Thome, that's why. What more do you want? A 10-page pullout section in the New York Times? He was a trainer.

I certainly heard more about Al Lerner after he died than when he was living.

OSUFan, just because you have some "Everyone Hates Cleveland, I Just KNOW They Do!" kind of thing going on, doesn't mean it's true. The deaths got national coverage; just because there wasn't A Very Special Edition of Nightline devoted to them doesn't mean that they were ignored.

[quote]Originally posted by Jim Allen:
you have some "Everyone Hates Cleveland, I Just KNOW They Do!" kind of thing going on

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Funny - and I've lived here 42 years and traveled alot so I KNOW what the impressions of Cleveland are
but I think you would agree that if an Owner of a Major Sports Franchise or 30-year-trainer in any other city died suddenly, it would get much more publicity, I would bet much cash on it..

Trainers get no national publicity no matter how long they're with a team. They're behind the scenes personnel. No one cares outside of the team they work for and its fans.

As for owners, unless they have a national profile (like George Steinbrenner or Jerry Jones) there's not going to be scads of national publicity about them, either. Especially now that more and more teams are owned by corporations.

It has nothing to do with Cleveland.

[quote]Originally posted by Joe in Philly:
As for owners, unless they have a national profile (like George Steinbrenner or Jerry Jones)

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That's the point of my thread - any other owner would get more attention than Cleveland's

Not ANY other owner. People like Steinbrenner are big-time national personalities. They're the exception. Most owners would get the same coverage as Lerner.

And today, at least, it seems it's the notorious owners are the ones that get the most attention. My understanding though is that the Cleveland Indians owner (forgot his name, that Cleveland no recognition thing) is working on it though.

[quote]Originally posted by Joe in Philly:
As for owners, unless they have a national profile (like George Steinbrenner or Jerry Jones) there's not going to be scads of national publicity about them, either.

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I agree with JOE-.....OSU, let it go buddy- c'mere I'll give you a big Cleveland HUG! -