Full Version: Hey Yankee fans, are you afraid of the AL West?
The Yanks have not been playing as well as the A's, Angels, or even the Twins recently, and I can't wait to see what happens in the playoffs. Do Yankee fans fear that they may not make the World Series, to get revenge on the Diamondbacks?
To: SeaMarFan
It's rather pathetic to have to rely on other teams (A's,Angels) to accomplish what the Mariners have NEVER done! i.e. Beat the Yanks and win the World Series.
The year before last the Yanks went 3-15 into the Playoffs and everyone said the same as you. RESULT= WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
As a Yankee Fan, the Mariners never scared us. The A's and Angels are good teams. We'll see in October!
It's rather pathetic to have to rely on other teams (A's,Angels) to accomplish what the Mariners have NEVER done! i.e. Beat the Yanks and win the World Series.
The year before last the Yanks went 3-15 into the Playoffs and everyone said the same as you. RESULT= WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
As a Yankee Fan, the Mariners never scared us. The A's and Angels are good teams. We'll see in October!
I'm not any more scared of the other playoff teams than in the past. I was more worried in 1998 when the Yankees won 114 games and definitely were expected to win the World Series. With 5 and 7 game playoff series, anything can happen( e.g. Mariners last year). The Yankees were down 2 games to 1 to the Indians in the ALCS at one point.
The other years, including this year, the Yankees were at the same level or worse than the other playoff teams going into the playoffs, so it just didn't seem there was as much at stake. But it was still nice when they won three WS in a row.
The other years, including this year, the Yankees were at the same level or worse than the other playoff teams going into the playoffs, so it just didn't seem there was as much at stake. But it was still nice when they won three WS in a row.
I think one of the most important things that Joe Torre has instilled in this team is a healthy respect for the competition. They don't overlook anyone. The Yanks know how to turn it on in the post season. If the other AL teams haven't learned by now to NEVER count the Yanks out, they'll be home watching them on TV like the rest of us.
Uh, you mean like Jeremy Giambi and his "Nah, I won't bother to slide now"?
[quote]Originally posted by ironjohn8:
To: SeaMarFan
It's rather pathetic to have to rely on other teams (A's,Angels) to accomplish what the Mariners have NEVER done! i.e. Beat the Yanks and win the World Series.
The year before last the Yanks went 3-15 into the Playoffs and everyone said the same as you. RESULT= WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
As a Yankee Fan, the Mariners never scared us. The A's and Angels are good teams. We'll see in October!
Whatever it takes to see the Yanks lose, even if it means cheering for our rivals here in the west to get the job done. I happen to be from California, so I have a reason to want to see a team there beat the Yankees and get to the World Series. You're right, We'll see what happens in October, and find out who's really overrated!
To: SeaMarFan
It's rather pathetic to have to rely on other teams (A's,Angels) to accomplish what the Mariners have NEVER done! i.e. Beat the Yanks and win the World Series.
The year before last the Yanks went 3-15 into the Playoffs and everyone said the same as you. RESULT= WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
As a Yankee Fan, the Mariners never scared us. The A's and Angels are good teams. We'll see in October!
Whatever it takes to see the Yanks lose, even if it means cheering for our rivals here in the west to get the job done. I happen to be from California, so I have a reason to want to see a team there beat the Yankees and get to the World Series. You're right, We'll see what happens in October, and find out who's really overrated!
I'm not rubbing it in, but how do you go from 116 wins to not making the playoffs the next year
Other than 1998, I think every year since 1995 there's been a team that on paper would seem to be a match for the Good Guys. But the Yankees have usually been able to turn it up a notch for topflight competition. The times they did lose, in 1995, 1997 and 2001, it was in the final inning of the final game. So while I respect the A's and Angels, and think postseason will be competitive, I don't feel there's any reason to fear any of these teams.
I'm as scared of the Angels this year as I was of the Mariners last year (not much). However, I do again dread facing the A's, but the Yankees were somehow able to get by them last fall.
But, as a Yankees fan, I'm having a hard time deciding which team I'd rather face in the ALDS. The New York media believes the A's will be easier to defeat in the 7-game ALCS. This means that I should be rooting for Anaheim - something that isn't too hard to do. Some of the Angels are pretty WOOFy (break me off a piece of Shawn Wooten!), unlike all those twinks up in Oakland...
Edit: Or do I have that backwards? This wild card thing is confusing...
[ September 19, 2002: Message edited by: FeverDog ]
But, as a Yankees fan, I'm having a hard time deciding which team I'd rather face in the ALDS. The New York media believes the A's will be easier to defeat in the 7-game ALCS. This means that I should be rooting for Anaheim - something that isn't too hard to do. Some of the Angels are pretty WOOFy (break me off a piece of Shawn Wooten!), unlike all those twinks up in Oakland...
Edit: Or do I have that backwards? This wild card thing is confusing...
[ September 19, 2002: Message edited by: FeverDog ]
[quote]I'm as scared of the Angels this year as I was of the Mariners last year (not much).
Just remember that no team in the NFL during last years playoffs were much afraid of the New England Patriots either. I think the Angels prey on other teams taking them lightly relative to other playoff contending teams.
Just remember that no team in the NFL during last years playoffs were much afraid of the New England Patriots either. I think the Angels prey on other teams taking them lightly relative to other playoff contending teams.
Don't worry MikeOC, Yankee fans will be afraid once they have to face an AL West team in the playoffs, they lost another game to the D-Rays today. You have nothing to worry about, this is the year that the Yanks will choke! I don't care if Yankee fans think I'm an ass****, I want to see them lose this year!
Despite the Yankees crucial devastating loss to the D-Rays, I'm still not worried. If the Yankees do face an AL West team in the playoffs, I realize they may, in fact, lose. I don't know if that could be considered choking, but whatever. Best wishes to the AL West playoff teams, SeaMarFan, maybe you'll get your wish.
OK pat125, I can see that you're a sensible Yankee fan, so all I can say is good luck in the post-season. I'm sure that you can understand my frustration this year being a Mariners fan. After all, the M's were supposed to get to the WS in 2002, and it's not looking very likely at this point!
TO: SeaMarFan
Maybe you should direct your frustration at The Mariner Organization instead of the Yanks. Your team had a monumental season last year w/choke in playoffs(+)no playoffs this year! The Yanks may get beaten by the A's/Angels (I doubt it) but they won't choke. The A's have proven to be stiff competition but still the Yanks come out victorious! As for the Angels - once they step into the forbidding confines of Yankee Stadium in October they will look like deer caught in Headlights!!! The West Coast should just stick to basketball!!!
Maybe you should direct your frustration at The Mariner Organization instead of the Yanks. Your team had a monumental season last year w/choke in playoffs(+)no playoffs this year! The Yanks may get beaten by the A's/Angels (I doubt it) but they won't choke. The A's have proven to be stiff competition but still the Yanks come out victorious! As for the Angels - once they step into the forbidding confines of Yankee Stadium in October they will look like deer caught in Headlights!!! The West Coast should just stick to basketball!!!
Ironjohn - Just a quick factoid: The Angels are the only American League team to have a winning record against the Yankee's during the Joe Torre regime. They have held their own against them in Yankee stadium.
TO: MikeOC
Query: How many times did the Angels play the Yanks in 'the playoffs' during the Torre regime?
Answer: Nada, zilch, nigun, zero etc...
The playoffs are a different world my friend. The Yanks have the class, talent and professionalism to excel in the playoff arena.
I can assure you that once the wide-eyed, post-season virgin Angels come to da bronx to the 'House that Ruth Built' with the national spotlight upon them they'll respond like frightened tutles.
Query: How many times did the Angels play the Yanks in 'the playoffs' during the Torre regime?
Answer: Nada, zilch, nigun, zero etc...
The playoffs are a different world my friend. The Yanks have the class, talent and professionalism to excel in the playoff arena.
I can assure you that once the wide-eyed, post-season virgin Angels come to da bronx to the 'House that Ruth Built' with the national spotlight upon them they'll respond like frightened tutles.
Yep, looks like the Angels have the Yankee's and their fans right where they want them: underestimating the Angels.
They won't be the first team in professional sports history to have no/little experience in the postseason and still excel in the playoffs. You could count on one hand how many players on the New England Patriots had playoff experience. The 1996 Yankee's were not supposed to beat the Atlanta Braves as they had very few players with W.S. experience (Boggs, Jimmy Key). The Seattle Mariners beat that same Yankee team a year earlier despite overcoming having no playoff experience.
So I encourage you and the Yankee's to continue overplaying the "playoff experience" for it just helps the Angel cause.
Besides, it is still not certain who will play the Yankee's in the first round. There is still 9 games to decide the divsion and wild card winners. It could be the A's knocking the Yanks out of contention.
They won't be the first team in professional sports history to have no/little experience in the postseason and still excel in the playoffs. You could count on one hand how many players on the New England Patriots had playoff experience. The 1996 Yankee's were not supposed to beat the Atlanta Braves as they had very few players with W.S. experience (Boggs, Jimmy Key). The Seattle Mariners beat that same Yankee team a year earlier despite overcoming having no playoff experience.
So I encourage you and the Yankee's to continue overplaying the "playoff experience" for it just helps the Angel cause.
Besides, it is still not certain who will play the Yankee's in the first round. There is still 9 games to decide the divsion and wild card winners. It could be the A's knocking the Yanks out of contention.
TO: MikeOC
The consensus here in New York is that more than likely the Yanks will have to play 'both' the A's and the Angels. Sorry Minny.
Please don't equate football one-game series with baseball seven-game series.
Lot's of luck in the post season - you'll need it!!
The consensus here in New York is that more than likely the Yanks will have to play 'both' the A's and the Angels. Sorry Minny.
Please don't equate football one-game series with baseball seven-game series.
Lot's of luck in the post season - you'll need it!!
[quote]The consensus here in New York is that more than likely the Yanks will have to play 'both' the A's and the Angels
That aint gonna happen since they wont get out of the first round. Enjoy your 4-5 games with either the Angels or A's cuz that's all your team will play in this year's playoffs.
Alright Ironjohn, its been fun bantering and trading barbs with ya. I ll retire from this thread for now until a definitive outcome is determined in early October.
[ September 20, 2002: Message edited by: MikeOC ]
[ September 20, 2002: Message edited by: MikeOC ]
That aint gonna happen since they wont get out of the first round. Enjoy your 4-5 games with either the Angels or A's cuz that's all your team will play in this year's playoffs.
Alright Ironjohn, its been fun bantering and trading barbs with ya. I ll retire from this thread for now until a definitive outcome is determined in early October.
[ September 20, 2002: Message edited by: MikeOC ]
[ September 20, 2002: Message edited by: MikeOC ]
[quote]Originally posted by SeaMarFan:
OK pat125, I can see that you're a sensible Yankee fan, so all I can say is good luck in the post-season. I'm sure that you can understand my frustration this year being a Mariners fan. After all, the M's were supposed to get to the WS in 2002, and it's not looking very likely at this point!
Sensible Yankee fan? I didn't know there was such a thing.
Yes, I definitely understand the frustation. I'm also a Jets fan for about 30 years (after Super Bowl III). Talk about frustration. Thanks for the post-season wishes. I think all the AL playoff games are going to be competitive this year.
OK pat125, I can see that you're a sensible Yankee fan, so all I can say is good luck in the post-season. I'm sure that you can understand my frustration this year being a Mariners fan. After all, the M's were supposed to get to the WS in 2002, and it's not looking very likely at this point!
Sensible Yankee fan? I didn't know there was such a thing.
Yes, I definitely understand the frustation. I'm also a Jets fan for about 30 years (after Super Bowl III). Talk about frustration. Thanks for the post-season wishes. I think all the AL playoff games are going to be competitive this year.
Thanks for all the enlightening drama from the Angels' past. Jeez, the Phillies just sucked throughout much of my youth - I thought I had it bad. I'll surely be rooting for Anaheim if the Yankees are knocked out (ha!). (And don't call me Shirley.)
[quote]Yep, looks like the Angels have the Yankee's and their fans right where they want them: underestimating the Angels.
Just because I'm not afraid of the Angels doesn't mean I'm underestimating them. I've been keeping an eye on them, and they've proven themselves worthy opponents, and it'll be interesting to see how they handle the playoffs.
RE: last night's Yankee loss to the D'Rays could be explained by a) Mondesi playing an unfamiliar position, and
our closer on the DL. But Bernie and Mariano will return this weekend, so all it well. And good for Tampa Bay! Taking a series from New York is the highlight of their year. (Any D'Ray fans on these boards???)
[quote]Yep, looks like the Angels have the Yankee's and their fans right where they want them: underestimating the Angels.
Just because I'm not afraid of the Angels doesn't mean I'm underestimating them. I've been keeping an eye on them, and they've proven themselves worthy opponents, and it'll be interesting to see how they handle the playoffs.
RE: last night's Yankee loss to the D'Rays could be explained by a) Mondesi playing an unfamiliar position, and
our closer on the DL. But Bernie and Mariano will return this weekend, so all it well. And good for Tampa Bay! Taking a series from New York is the highlight of their year. (Any D'Ray fans on these boards???)
I just had to bring this particular thread back to life as reflection to what the talk/speculation was when discussing the possible outcome of a Yankee/Angel matchup.
Ironjohn8 quoted: [quote]TO: MikeOC
Query: How many times did the Angels play the Yanks in 'the playoffs' during the Torre regime?
Answer: Nada, zilch, nigun, zero etc...
The playoffs are a different world my friend. The Yanks have the class, talent and professionalism to excel in the playoff arena.
I can assure you that once the wide-eyed, post-season virgin Angels come to da bronx to the 'House that Ruth Built' with the national spotlight upon them they'll respond like frightened tutles.
I think the Angels more than proved they had the guts to compete against the Yankees and were unaffected by they "mystic" of the Yankee tradition and the stadium they play in.
Also, in that thread a few weeks back I thought the Angels could be this year's version of the Patriots. gamecock in another thread recently had the same observations.
Not to say I told you so ironjohn8, but I thought the Angels brand of baseball matched up well against the Yanks. It has for the past 5 years in the regular season and it proved to work in the post season as well.
Jim A. Love your enthusasim and passion for the Angels... Congrats man because your long time suffering, like mine, has been vindicated. I went to the game on Friday and it was AWESOME! I was there in Angel Stadium in 82 and 86 playoffs and the crowd this year has never been louder! This guy I work with came into my office today proudly showing off the Adam Kennedy home run ball he caught in right field that night. I thought of you and how much you would pay for such a souveigner since you lust for him so much! LOL Big Hugs right back at ya bud!
[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: MikeOC ]
Ironjohn8 quoted: [quote]TO: MikeOC
Query: How many times did the Angels play the Yanks in 'the playoffs' during the Torre regime?
Answer: Nada, zilch, nigun, zero etc...
The playoffs are a different world my friend. The Yanks have the class, talent and professionalism to excel in the playoff arena.
I can assure you that once the wide-eyed, post-season virgin Angels come to da bronx to the 'House that Ruth Built' with the national spotlight upon them they'll respond like frightened tutles.
I think the Angels more than proved they had the guts to compete against the Yankees and were unaffected by they "mystic" of the Yankee tradition and the stadium they play in.
Also, in that thread a few weeks back I thought the Angels could be this year's version of the Patriots. gamecock in another thread recently had the same observations.
Not to say I told you so ironjohn8, but I thought the Angels brand of baseball matched up well against the Yanks. It has for the past 5 years in the regular season and it proved to work in the post season as well.
Jim A. Love your enthusasim and passion for the Angels... Congrats man because your long time suffering, like mine, has been vindicated. I went to the game on Friday and it was AWESOME! I was there in Angel Stadium in 82 and 86 playoffs and the crowd this year has never been louder! This guy I work with came into my office today proudly showing off the Adam Kennedy home run ball he caught in right field that night. I thought of you and how much you would pay for such a souveigner since you lust for him so much! LOL Big Hugs right back at ya bud!
[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: MikeOC ]
That's great that you got to go to the game on Friday, Mike. I've only been to the Big A for the 1979 playoffs and the crowd noise then made the hairs on my neck stand to attention. Even the noise for the meaningless final game of the season was great to hear. Between the Hankie Dome and the Ed, it's going to be one LOUD ALCS.
Yeah, Adam Kennedy is one of my major lust objects. I've been following him since he was a freshman at CSUN; I was glad to see him "come back home" from the Cardinals. He sure butchered that one ball in the 9th inning Saturday, didn't he? My heart was in my shoes at that point.
Yeah, Adam Kennedy is one of my major lust objects. I've been following him since he was a freshman at CSUN; I was glad to see him "come back home" from the Cardinals. He sure butchered that one ball in the 9th inning Saturday, didn't he? My heart was in my shoes at that point.
[quote]Originally posted by Jim Allen:
Between the Hankie Dome and the Ed, it's going to be one LOUD ALCS.
Its nice to see these teams' fans get rewarded with home playoff games. The "crowd" at the A's-Twins game was dismal. Twins and Angels will surely sell out all their respective home games. Guess the A's fans either thought their A's were a lock or they've been diappointed so many times in the past. And in the NL, the Cards will have no trouble selling out and the Giants won't either after they take down Kevin "3 Days Rest" Millwood and the Braves tonight.
Between the Hankie Dome and the Ed, it's going to be one LOUD ALCS.
Its nice to see these teams' fans get rewarded with home playoff games. The "crowd" at the A's-Twins game was dismal. Twins and Angels will surely sell out all their respective home games. Guess the A's fans either thought their A's were a lock or they've been diappointed so many times in the past. And in the NL, the Cards will have no trouble selling out and the Giants won't either after they take down Kevin "3 Days Rest" Millwood and the Braves tonight.
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