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Some relatives of Jose Theodore are in trouble with the law. His father, uncle and four half-brothers have been arrested. They'll be charged with making loans at very high interest rate, and possibly other things like death threat.
Weird story. Embarrassing for Theodore, to say the least.
Shouldn't José be playing for the Sharks, then? 
Can't wait to read what the French papers have to say about this in the morning...
Can't wait to read what the French papers have to say about this in the morning...
Wow, the Canadian Mafia. Who'd a thunk it?
Trevor
Trevor
Perhaps the Canadian Mafia (eh) & the Russian Mafia can stage a winner-take-all game for ultimate control of the NHL. Maybe ESPN would air it. By the way, Zeno's phrasing: "They'll be charged with making loans at very high interest rate, and possibly other things like death threats" amused me...oh yeah, those other things, like death threats.
~Adam
~Adam
Maybe this explains why Theodore played so poorly this past season!
Why? Because they threatened him if he didn't repay his loan, or because he didn't get his share of the family profits? 
Although I couldn't find a link to corroborate this, I heard on CBC news tonight that a photo of Jose Theodore partying with Hells Angels was shown in a Montreal newspaper yesterday. Maybe Seph can confirm this? Makes me wonder if Theodore really is as innocent as he is made out to be.
Theodore's relatives have been released on the promise of appearing in court at the end of September, so the exact charges are not known yet. Loan shark activities, gangsterism?
The police stressed out that Jose is not linked to the criminal activities.
Yes Marc, a photo of Jose partying with the Hells Angels at one of their bunker was on the front page of the Journal de Montreal. It revealed Jose socialised with the Hells. The pic was a couple of years old.
I've heard also of a pic playing at a golf tournament with the Hells. It was organised by a topless bar linked to the Hells.
The Journal also revealed Jose has a joint bank account with his father. The police told NHL security back in 1998-99 that Jose had unusual friends. The NHL contacted his agent and advised him to stop such frequentations.
Looks like the Canadiens are sticking with him for the moment. The team is usually concerned about its image, maybe they'll wait to see people's reactions. Any team looking for a goalie??
Mike's restaurants have pulled their ad featuring Jose off the air for the moment.
The police stressed out that Jose is not linked to the criminal activities.
Yes Marc, a photo of Jose partying with the Hells Angels at one of their bunker was on the front page of the Journal de Montreal. It revealed Jose socialised with the Hells. The pic was a couple of years old.
I've heard also of a pic playing at a golf tournament with the Hells. It was organised by a topless bar linked to the Hells.
The Journal also revealed Jose has a joint bank account with his father. The police told NHL security back in 1998-99 that Jose had unusual friends. The NHL contacted his agent and advised him to stop such frequentations.
Looks like the Canadiens are sticking with him for the moment. The team is usually concerned about its image, maybe they'll wait to see people's reactions. Any team looking for a goalie??
Mike's restaurants have pulled their ad featuring Jose off the air for the moment.
I guess I won't be hanging out with Theodore when I go to Montreal on July 3rd! frown
Update on the criminal relatives:
The father of José Theodore and José's half-brother pleaded guilty today to charges of loansharking and possessing a restricted weapon.
The two made a deal with the Crown, pleading guilty and other charges were dropped (gansterism, uttering threaths). The half-brother gets a $21,000 fine (paid from what the police seized and it was much more than that). The father (or should we call him The Godfather!) will be sentenced Jan. 31.
The half-brother got a soft sentence...
In a more high-profile case, the father of José's girlfriend (if they are still together, don't remember if they are married) is getting sentenced Monday on sexual activity with two minors.
The father of José Theodore and José's half-brother pleaded guilty today to charges of loansharking and possessing a restricted weapon.
The two made a deal with the Crown, pleading guilty and other charges were dropped (gansterism, uttering threaths). The half-brother gets a $21,000 fine (paid from what the police seized and it was much more than that). The father (or should we call him The Godfather!) will be sentenced Jan. 31.
The half-brother got a soft sentence...
In a more high-profile case, the father of José's girlfriend (if they are still together, don't remember if they are married) is getting sentenced Monday on sexual activity with two minors.
Wow, sounds like his life has soap opera storylines to go along with the looks.
The verdict in the case of Montreal Canadiens goaltender Jose Theodore's father: $30,000 fine but no jail time.
loansharking verdict story
The verdict in the case of Montreal Canadiens goaltender Jose Theodore's father: $30,000 fine but no jail time.
The sentence was almost exactly what his lawyers had recommended when he pleaded guilty in December to loansharking and possessing a restricted weapon.
But the elder Theodore won't have to dig into his pockets to pay the fine because it will be deducted from a $650,000 sum seized from the family when the ring was dismantled.
Ted Theodore also was prohibited from owning a firearm for 10 years and ordered to keep the peace.
The sentence against the Theodore family patriarch fell short of the two-year suspended sentence the Crown had recommended.
Wiretaps presented in court indicate the elder Theodore controlled every aspect of the business while some of his sons acted as collectors.
The loansharking operation controlled more than 100 active loans worth a total of $1 million at the time it was broken up in 2003.
But there was no evidence violence was used and the Crown has acknowledged it couldn't make a strong case to have Ted Theodore sent to prison.
The money seized from the Theodore family includes a cheque for $540,000 for having lived off the proceeds of crime.
Most of the 124 original charges against the family, including counts of gangsterism, have been dropped as part of the plea bargain.
During sentencing arguments, the Crown said the father provided small, short-term loans of under $10,000 from a barber shop in the city's east end over a 20-year period.
Gamblers, some of whom were in financial trouble, were charged illegal interest rates on loans, said police.
Victims borrowed amounts ranging from $1,000 to tens of thousands of dollars. One client was charged $400 in interest per week on an $8,000 loan.
Other branches of the operation provided loans from the Montreal casino, where a client once borrowed $1,000 and was required to pay $1,100 the very next day.
Those who didn't pay back the money were threatened with violence, but police said the threats were not carried out.
loansharking verdict story
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The verdict in the case of Montreal Canadiens goaltender Jose Theodore's father: $30,000 fine but no jail time.
The sentence was almost exactly what his lawyers had recommended when he pleaded guilty in December to loansharking and possessing a restricted weapon.
But the elder Theodore won't have to dig into his pockets to pay the fine because it will be deducted from a $650,000 sum seized from the family when the ring was dismantled.
Ted Theodore also was prohibited from owning a firearm for 10 years and ordered to keep the peace.
The sentence against the Theodore family patriarch fell short of the two-year suspended sentence the Crown had recommended.
Wiretaps presented in court indicate the elder Theodore controlled every aspect of the business while some of his sons acted as collectors.
The loansharking operation controlled more than 100 active loans worth a total of $1 million at the time it was broken up in 2003.
But there was no evidence violence was used and the Crown has acknowledged it couldn't make a strong case to have Ted Theodore sent to prison.
The money seized from the Theodore family includes a cheque for $540,000 for having lived off the proceeds of crime.
Most of the 124 original charges against the family, including counts of gangsterism, have been dropped as part of the plea bargain.
During sentencing arguments, the Crown said the father provided small, short-term loans of under $10,000 from a barber shop in the city's east end over a 20-year period.
Gamblers, some of whom were in financial trouble, were charged illegal interest rates on loans, said police.
Victims borrowed amounts ranging from $1,000 to tens of thousands of dollars. One client was charged $400 in interest per week on an $8,000 loan.
Other branches of the operation provided loans from the Montreal casino, where a client once borrowed $1,000 and was required to pay $1,100 the very next day.
Those who didn't pay back the money were threatened with violence, but police said the threats were not carried out.
If I'm ever accused of similar crimes (anything's possible) I want his lawyers!
~Adam
~Adam
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But the elder Theodore won't have to dig into his pockets to pay the fine because it will be deducted from a $650,000 sum seized from the family when the ring was dismantled.
If that money was from the criminal activity, why would the fine be deducted? Don't they forfeit all that money anyway? This doesn't make sense.Joe
More details on the fine and where the money comes from today. It's 30,000$ from the 75,000$ the police seized in a safe box. It was under both Papa Ted Theodore and Jose's names. I heard the money was sitting there for a few years, there was no transaction from the box so it can't be linked to criminal activity (without proof).
The 650,000$ seized from the family can probably be traced to criminal activity from the few months during the police investigation. They had a video camera spying on him. It's probably a small fraction of what he earned all the years running his loansharking business. I don't know how much money he gets to keep from all these years of crime.
From the Montreal Gazette:
The father of Montreal Canadiens goaltender Jose Theodore was fined $30,000 yesterday for two decades of heading up a family loansharking business that exacted interest rates of between five per cent a week and 2,000 per cent per year.
The fine comes on top of $650,000 in cash already confiscated from the family and $1 million in outstanding loans Ted Nicholas Theodore Sr. and four of his sons lost when they were arrested in June 2003.
Quebec Court Judge Jean-Pierre Bonin spared Theodore Sr. jail time, noting the 71-year-old had no criminal record and never resorted to violence in collecting from debtors.
\"Until 2003, the Theodore group was not bothered by the police, presumably because there was a system of tolerance toward groups that ran loansharking businesses without turning to physical violence,\" Bonin said.
But Bonin ruled the $30,000 fine can be taken from $75,000 police seized from a safe the father shared with his hockey player son.
Theodore Sr. pleaded guilty in December to one count of usury and one of possessing an unlicensed pistol - from among more than 100 charges initially laid against him, his sons and a handful of others.
Papa Theodore fined
Papa Theodore will probably have some problems with the revenue department if he didn't declare his revenues. He ran a wig shop for men, so maybe much less lucrative than what he earned.
If you ever want to become a shylock, come up here. Sentences are light. Plea bargaining are a joke. You won't go to jail if you don't act violently or have a criminal record. Just a fine and you'll lose some of your latest earnings.
The judge took into consideration the age of the guilty man, the fact that he pleaded guilty (you get bonus point for that - but it's a plea bargain!?), he had no criminal record (he just did it for 20 years!), the police tolerated non-violent loansharking, and he wasn't violent (how did he get paid if they didn't made some threats or intimidation).
The 650,000$ seized from the family can probably be traced to criminal activity from the few months during the police investigation. They had a video camera spying on him. It's probably a small fraction of what he earned all the years running his loansharking business. I don't know how much money he gets to keep from all these years of crime.
From the Montreal Gazette:
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The father of Montreal Canadiens goaltender Jose Theodore was fined $30,000 yesterday for two decades of heading up a family loansharking business that exacted interest rates of between five per cent a week and 2,000 per cent per year.
The fine comes on top of $650,000 in cash already confiscated from the family and $1 million in outstanding loans Ted Nicholas Theodore Sr. and four of his sons lost when they were arrested in June 2003.
Quebec Court Judge Jean-Pierre Bonin spared Theodore Sr. jail time, noting the 71-year-old had no criminal record and never resorted to violence in collecting from debtors.
\"Until 2003, the Theodore group was not bothered by the police, presumably because there was a system of tolerance toward groups that ran loansharking businesses without turning to physical violence,\" Bonin said.
But Bonin ruled the $30,000 fine can be taken from $75,000 police seized from a safe the father shared with his hockey player son.
Theodore Sr. pleaded guilty in December to one count of usury and one of possessing an unlicensed pistol - from among more than 100 charges initially laid against him, his sons and a handful of others.
Papa Theodore will probably have some problems with the revenue department if he didn't declare his revenues. He ran a wig shop for men, so maybe much less lucrative than what he earned.
If you ever want to become a shylock, come up here. Sentences are light. Plea bargaining are a joke. You won't go to jail if you don't act violently or have a criminal record. Just a fine and you'll lose some of your latest earnings.
The judge took into consideration the age of the guilty man, the fact that he pleaded guilty (you get bonus point for that - but it's a plea bargain!?), he had no criminal record (he just did it for 20 years!), the police tolerated non-violent loansharking, and he wasn't violent (how did he get paid if they didn't made some threats or intimidation).
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