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Jim at Outsports
Danton, showing where his priorities lie, has now threatened to sue two papers who said he was gay.
I wrote a column about it.
Joe in Philly
Great column, Jim.

Like Mike Tice, Mike Danton is a bitch!
Adam
Nice column. I had hoped Danton would just serve his time & not try top attract attention to himself during his incarceration, but that seems not to be the case. Of course, I doubt his newest cases against those who implied he's gay won;t garner all that much attention (he's a lesser-known hockey player, for goodness sake) but sadly, the whole thing still equates being thought gay with being bad. Pity.

~Adam
Matt the Bruins fan
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Like Mike Tice, Mike Danton is a bitch
Well, that depends. If he's the biggest, toughest guy on his cell block, wouldn't it be someone else who becomes his bitch? (I'm assuming from the lawsuit over being called gay that he wouldn't want to be the bottom if he could help it...)
sportinlife
I hope being in prison in Canada is not as dangerous as being in prison here where other inmates always seem to manage to find out what you are in for and treat you accordingly. If Danton were in some of the worse prisons here the mere fact that he is in for a case in which his sexual orientation was at question might expose him to even greater mistreatment regardless of his orientation or strength. It is more ruthlessness than strength IMO that determines who assaults whom: crude weapons work.
Joe in Philly
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Matt the Bruins fan:
If he's the biggest, toughest guy on his cell block, wouldn't it be someone else who becomes his bitch?
He's presumably bigger and tougher than David Frost, and we see how well that worked out.
swiminbuff
The story still hasen't gone away, and Danton and his adviser are still "close". Globe & Mail
REX
CBC's program The Fifth Estate will do a report on the Mike Danton affair tomorrow at 9PM eastern time. It apparently has previously unreleased info but I'm sure that it will raise more questions than it answers.

I can't help but feel that justice has not been served in this case and that Danton is still being victimized by Frost.

Rex
gamecock
Just when you think this story couldn't get any stranger....The Globe and Mail article states that despite Danton serving his 7 1/2 year sentence in a Fort Dix, NJ prison "Frost is screening his calls. He's still his agent and the guy you go through to try to talk to Danton, which is one of the bizarre aspects of this story"....the obvious question that comes to mind is how does someone "on the outside" screen the calls for an incarcerated inmate? :confused:

To call this story "bizarre" is a MAJOR understatement....if a hollywood screenwriter submitted this manuscript to a studio exec he'd be laughed out of any office for taking fiction to an absurd extreme. rolleyes.gif

~Joe
sportinlife
This story has reached almost spooky proportions.

If a movie were made about it I could only imagine it being some sort of horror movie about possession.

I couldn't get the above link to work so I found this one. I am beyond pitying this Jefferson. Though I think he may need help he isn't getting.
canmark
The CBC report on the case.

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Recordings of jailhouse phone conversations obtained by the fifth estate are among the many new disturbing details revealed in the saga of Danton and his longtime agent and former coach Frost.

* * *

At the end of the conversation, Frost asks, \"OK, you love me?\" \"Yeah,\" Danton says.

\"Say it,\" Frost demands.

\"I love you.\"

(\"Do you?\")

(\"Yeah,\" Danton replies.)

* * *

The Jeffersons reveal for the first time how their then-13-year-old son Tom was allegedly victimized while on a cottage trip with Frost, Danton and other teens.

On that trip, they say their son was photographed duct-taped to a bed naked.

They also allege during the same trip that members of the group forced Tom to eat pancakes that had been spit on and climb a tree while a pellet gun was pointed at him.


[ November 29, 2005, 07:33 PM: Message edited by: canmark ]
Vancouvergayguy
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REX:
CBC's program The Fifth Estate will do a report on the Mike Danton affair tomorrow at 9PM eastern time. It apparently has previously unreleased info but I'm sure that it will raise more questions than it answers.

I can't help but feel that justice has not been served in this case and that Danton is still being victimized by Frost.

Rex
For those in BC ... the program is on locally at 9 pm onight

By that time it will prolly be 6-2 for the Avalanche!

LOL!
canmark
A sad story. Danton was clearly the victim of a Svengali. David Frost is clearly a whack job.

I found it interesting, though, how while people will hint around about verbal, physical and sexual abuse... no one actually uses the "g" word, ever. But to me it would explain some of the fear the players (Danton, and others) have of Frost, because Frost could expose them for activities they participated in (whether willingly or not). The fact that Frost photographed Danton's younger brother naked and taped to a bed itself hints at the sort of 'initiation-type' abuse that led to their fear and obedience to Frost.

Transcript of the phone conversation between Danton (following initial arrest in California) and Frost, where Frost tells Danton how to conduct himself and how to put all the blame on his parents.

[ November 30, 2005, 07:08 PM: Message edited by: canmark ]
Joe in Philly
There's a link on the CBC site where you can watch the report. I'm going to wait until the next time I get to my desktop PC instead of my laptop -- probably when I next do laundry wink -- since the speakers are much better on my main PC.

I can't believe the prison officials can't keep Frost from having contact with Danton. There must be more they can do. I can't imagine what bizarre story Frost has to explain everything that can't be told until after Danton is transferred to Canada. If I had my way, he'd serve his full sentence in the USA.
canmark
Frost is delusional. He said something about the FBI 'lying,' even though the FBI has nothing to do with the case.
Vancouvergayguy
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Joe in Philly:
There's a link on the CBC site where you can watch the report. I'm going to wait until the next time I get to my desktop PC instead of my laptop -- probably when I next do laundry wink -- since the speakers are much better on my main PC.

I can't believe the prison officials can't keep Frost from having contact with Danton. There must be more they can do. I can't imagine what bizarre story Frost has to explain everything that can't be told until after Danton is transferred to Canada. If I had my way, he'd serve his full sentence in the USA.
Interesting thots ... but why would you care whether Danton did his time in Canada or the US
sportinlife
The full transcript of the Jefferson-Frost conversation is on CBC.

Read it and weep.
hockeyTom
I hope there is maybe some gay Hollywood producer type out there who would like to make a movie about this whole thing. The more I read, the more bizarre and intriguing it becomes.
Joe in Philly
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Vancouvergayguy:
... but why would you care whether Danton did his time in Canada or the US
Because he wants the transfer, and especially because Frost wants the transfer. If Danton told the entire story and then wanted a transfer that would be a different matter. But under these circumstances, with this mystery still going on and with Frost still being so influential, no way.

In the tape, Frost tells Danton "It's an absolute impossibility to win this case in the criminal court...you'll lose, you'll go 7 to 10." So he ends up pleading guility and gets sentenced to 7 1/2 years. Good advice.

I can't believe Frost is still certified as a agent and involved with a junior team. What a joke. Why does no one have the guts to go after him?

[ December 01, 2005, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]
J1780
Youth hockey in Canada seems to be a weird, cult-like, obsessive thing. Maybe there's more strange s--t going on and people don't want the exposure.
blueraider
this story just never dies.....now Danton's father has been picked by the police on suspicion of harassing Frost......

Hockey News link
Joe in Philly
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“I know my Dad got a hold of Frost's number and was leaving him phone messages every once in a while,” Tom Jefferson said. “He wasn't threatening him physically or anything, just leaving random messages saying things like, you know, his time is going to come, and he should be ashamed of himself for what he's done, that kind of thing.”
Very sad and rather dumb. I can understand his dad's frustration but he can't do something like this.
canmark
Re: the "I love you" comment. Frost had this to say:

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Frost, whose status as an accredited agent is being reviewed by the NHL players' association, scoffed at public speculation about the meaning of his demand that Danton say \"I love you.\"

\"Mike is like a son to me and my wife,'' Frost said. \"We were told to keep him strong and that's what I was trying to do,\" Frost said. \"Mike and I chuckle about people's curiosity over our relationship,\" he added.
Joe in Philly
Frost has a wife??? How much is he paying her?
bridgeportjake
More details on the calls between Danton & Frost:

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Danton: Caught on tape

Audio recordings give glimpse of relationship between Danton and Frost

...

When former St. Louis Blues player Mike Danton sat in a California jail last year, he had 79 phone conversations with his agent and intended murder-for-hire target, David Frost.

...

Danton engaged in a plot to have Frost killed because Frost tried to force Danton to address substance abuse and other self-destructive behaviors before they destroyed his career, according to a lawsuit filed by Danton last month.

But in the tapes made days after Danton's April 15, 2004, arrest in San Jose, Calif., Danton said he didn't use drugs and hadn't had a drink in more than a month. The discussions with Frost were peppered with talk of trips to metro-east strip clubs, sending stick boys up into the stands to find girls and sexual romps with as many as three women at a time.

Frost told Danton in one of the calls that if he agreed to counseling, his time in custody would be easier -- allowing him to have a private room and even a computer.

\"Of course, you will be in counseling, so you can't go on porno sites or anything,\" Frost said.

\"I was never on porno sites,\" Danton said.

\"I know you weren't,\" Frost chuckled. \"You didn't need to. You had pornos live in your own house.\"

The FBI released about 40 minutes of the 1,000 recorded minutes of 79 phone calls between Danton and Frost taped during the 12 days Danton spent in California awaiting extradition to Illinois.

Frost told Danton that federal agents told him that other Blues players expressed concern Danton was jeopardizing the quality of his play with his womanizing.

\"He told them that you were more worried about the stands than the game,\" Frost told Danton in a call.

...

Frost also talked about the nightmare Danton had the night he scored his first playoff goal against the San Jose Sharks, including details that Danton was soaked with sweat and dreamed Steve Jefferson, Danton's father, was in his room holding a gun to his head.
I'm perfectly willing to believe that Danton and Frost are both straight, and that there was no physical sex involved in their relationship. But Freudians would have a field day with these convos. Not to mention Hitchcockians.
canmark
Coming under renewed scrutiny, David Frost resigned as a player agent with the NHLPA.
Joe in Philly
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\"(The resignation) is not because I'm up against anything,\" Frost said. \"I did it a year ago anyway, and that's the only comment I have. Ask the PA. They'll tell you.\"

Not true, the NHLPA said.

\"Frost's status up until yesterday was he was certified,\" Ian Penny, NHLPA associate counsel, said in a statement.

Frost tendered his letter of resignation Monday afternoon.
Lying creep. I hope the media continues to go after him.
J1780
Something's wrong.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20051...suspension.html
Joe in Philly
That's old news; plus I think it was discussed in another thread; plus, it has nothing to do with Mike Danton.
swiminbuff
Dalton lost in his quest to be transferred to a Canadian prison. He will remian in St Louis Federal Prison.

CBC - Dalton to Stay in US Prison
bridgeportjake
I guess the transfer isn't a done deal after all, according to this article:

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Danton defends Frost from prison

A 'father figure': Ex-NHLer blames family for troubles

OTTAWA - In the first statement since he was sentenced to seven and a half years in a U.S. prison for plotting to kill his agent, NHL player Mike Danton has detailed a troubling childhood with his biological family and revealed suicidal tendencies he felt immediately after his arrest.

In a 36-page, handwritten statement to the Ottawa Citizen this week, Danton documented childhood scenes that drove him to a surrogate family headed by agent David Frost and his wife, Bridget, the daughter of the late, legendary NHL referee John McCauley.

He hates his biological family so much that he legally changed his surname four years ago from Jefferson to Danton, the last name of a boy he met at a hockey school.

His statement is essentially a public document explaining why he has disowned his biological family.

\"Not once was I ever read a book at night and I can't remember ever receiving a hug or kiss.\"
*****

36 pages! Whoo-eey! Interesting how this article doesn't mention the tapes with the talk of the sex and the orgies and the hot straight sex...

Other tidbits:

"When things were rough at home, I'd head over to his house to stay. I loved staying over because they had toilet paper and food -- two items that I didn't have.

"As I grew older, the Keefe house became my outlet for showers, food and #2 bathroom visits."

It does seem like this is likely his best defense, I guess. If your intended murder victim is your bestest friend and continues to be your bestest friend, what's a little murder contract among bestest friends, right?

Article also doesn't mention any suspension of Frost.

Frost is still creepy. Why they let him have any contact with Danton is beyond me.
Maddog
From Jim's story;

Danton sent a hand-written press release to Outsports two weeks ago through an attorney stating why he thinks he should be transferred from a U.S. prison in New Jersey to one in Canada (which could trigger probation).

I can't believe he sent a hand-written press release here. If there's not a gay angle why send it to a gay sports site? Will we get to see the press release?
swiminbuff
Frost has been arrested on charges of sexual exploitation and assault involving both boys and girls between the ages of 14 and 16.

CBC Sports
Joe in Philly
Wow. Maybe, just maybe, if Frost is convicted and jailed, Danton will finally feel free to speak out and escape Frost's clutches once and for all?
canmark
Frost arrested for using Danton's credit card.

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David Frost, the ex-NHL agent of St. Louis Blues player Mike Danton who was involved in a murder-for-hire plot, was arrested on Friday for allegedly buying gas with Danton's credit card, according to published reports.
Joe in Philly
He was living in Danton's apartment (according to that article) and using his credit card? Unreal. What a complete sleaze.
canmark
CBC's The Fifth Estate has done an in-depth report on the Frost-Danton case.

Video
Timeline
Joe in Philly
Wow, how time flies...it was over 4 years ago that Danton was arrested.
canmark
The latest sordid reports are that Frost had threeways with his players and their girlfriends. Ew!

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The young woman also told court that one time after she and her boyfriend tried a new sexual position in a hotel, where Frost and several of the players were living, Frost came in and offered to help them try another.

"I didn't want him to," she told the court. "I was, I guess, shocked."

Visibly upset, she described how during the first threesome her boyfriend had sex with her first, while Frost was lying underneath her, asking her how she liked it. She said her boyfriend then helped her on top of Frost so she could have sex with him.

"I didn't really know a lot about sex," she said.

canmark
Does David Frost have a third testicle? Ew ew ew!

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The reference to a third testicle -- or something that looked like it -- shocked the courtroom this morning, dropped into cross-examination by defence lawyer Marie Henein. There has been no evidence that Frost actually has such a condition.

"A two-inch-by-two-inch-by-two inch plum-sized sac of blood that appears like a third testicle,'' Henein helpfully described it to the 28-year-old Crown witness.

"That's not a tiny mole. A third testicle would be hard to miss.''

The witness responded: "I never saw a third testicle.''

More sordid details...

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But she noticed early on that he was on a very short leash - he couldn't call her, he told her, without Mr. Frost's permission; he couldn't come over and do homework. As she put it, "He wasn't allowed to do a whole lot. ...It was very clear that he [Mr. Frost] was in control of every action the boys made. Basically, they couldn't go to the bathroom without asking."
* * *
She went to the hotel that very night, and after a few minutes, she said Mr. Frost disappeared into a bedroom. Minutes later, as if on cue, her boyfriend said they should go in, too. He directed her to undress, and to lie between the two of them. "I was lying there," she remembered, "naked and shaking."

Frost then got on top of her and asked her boyfriend "to help him," and soon she could feel her boyfriend's hands on Mr. Frost's penis, "playing with it." After Mr. Frost had sex with her, her boyfriend had difficulty getting an erection. Mr. Frost made fun of him, she said, then "grabbed on his [her boyfriend's] penis, saying 'Don't be a wimp.' "
Joe in Philly
QUOTE(canmark @ Oct 29 2008, 09:08 PM) *

Does David Frost have a third testicle? Ew ew ew!


I suppose anything's possible, but I've never heard of such a thing. I know there are people with 3 nipples. Even Krusty the Klown. biggrin.gif But three testicles???
canmark
The case is getting more and more bizarre. Now one of the players that was supposedly involved in a threeway with his girlfriend and David Frost (according to the former girlfriend) says that the third party was, in fact, Mike Danton. Frost was never a participant, he says, and he had lied previously to protect Danton.
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The alleged victim's former girlfriend told court earlier in the week that she and her boyfriend began having sex early in their relationship at a hotel in Deseronto, Ont., where Frost and several players lived. Not long after, she said she was persuaded by her boyfriend to have a threesome with Frost on two occasions, when they were 16 and Frost was 29.

But the man, now 28, said the threesomes his ex-girlfriend described never involved Frost, but instead happened on two occasions with Danton.
* * *
The man told court that group sex is common in the hockey world and that he has had sexual encounters involving one girl and as many as five or six other males. ohmy.gif

"It's like a bonding thing with your friends or teammates," he said.
canmark
The latest in the Danton saga. Now he's claiming the "hit" was on his father (who he had not seen in years), not agent Frost. blink.gif From Rosie DiManno's column in the Toronto Star.

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After serving less than five years of a 7 1/2-year sentence for plotting to have Frost murdered, transferred from the U.S. to Canada at his request in March, Danton was granted full parole yesterday.
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In presenting himself as rehabilitated, Danton, 28, told the board it had never been his intention to have his surrogate father taken out by a rent-a-killer in St. Louis.

Nay, the prey had been his real father, Steve Jefferson.


Globe and Mail article.

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Former NHL player Mike Danton was granted full parole Friday after telling the National Parole Board the target of his murder-for-hire plot was his father, and not his controversial and oft-scrutinized former agent, David Frost.

As conditions of his release, Danton is to have no direct or indirect contact with his father, Steve Jefferson, and no face-to-face contact with Frost, unless pre-approved by his parole officer.

Danton said he hopes to return to playing hockey.

“Given the opportunity I know I’ll be able to play somewhere, at some level,” he said. Yet Danton admitted the parole board was correct in that it would be impossible to play in the NHL if he can’t leave the country while on parole.
Joe in Philly
I'm not sure how it's possible for this case to get any more bizarre.
swiminbuff
His next career move is probably going to be knocking over a gas station or appearing in gay porn, just not sure which will happen first.
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