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SteelResolve
Here's a delightful little story about a drunk WVU fan who was arrested at the Gator Bowl for going into the GaTech band section while they were performing and taking a DUMP in their seats. Yes, I'm not making this up, he took a DUMP in the stadium!

Here's a link to the story which includes a link to pictures of th event:

http://mb25.scout.com/fthehivefrm1.showMes...cID=65970.topic

...here's another pic, from last years Chick-Fil-A Bowl....a random sample of WVU fans, including a classy woman in the lower right telling us that WVU is #1.

http://mb25.scout.com/fthehivefrm1.showMes...c&index=110
blueraider
Hmmm....I suppose that those restroom lines at AllTel are longer than I can remember. Too funny laugh.gif

There's a thread somewhere on this board for "People who should be shot".....think this guy ought to be on that list.
GymMountainEER
All fanbases have idiots. WVU's program is certainly not immune.


With That being said, I doubt a WVU fan is the culprit in this assertion. Its rather obvious the guy in the picture is wearing red and black. WVU's colors are Blue and Gold. Also, it was reported on Rivals that these pictures are dated in 2005 not January 2nd 2007. Some suggested the pictutes were doctored. I'm techinically challenged so I couldnt give an opinion one way or another if the pictures are legitimate. Additionally, This could be similar to the circumstance of Virginia Tech versus Clemson where a battery hit Clemson's coach Bowden in the head at Virginia Tech earlier this year. Most everyone thought it was Tech's crowd. Later it turned out to be a Clemson fan that threw the battery who was aiming at the referee.

The point is sometimes things aren't always what they appear to be initially.


The second picture is disguisting. However, we could take camera's around to all stadiums of America on gameday and take shots of fans participating in repulsive behavior.


I find much comedy that posters and fans of teams that dislike WVU are obsessed with non sports related smack talk. I guess the old addage is true. If you can't beat them, insult them. WVU has been on the issuing end of many beatdowns in basketball and football the last 3 years as both programs are steam rolling. It makes sense opposing fans MO would be to doctor or fabricate pics, hurl insults ( inbreeds, etc.), and cry over fan behavior after a loss.
DnD10598
Sorry, 'Eer,' you aren't going to win any arguments defending WVU fan behavior as typical of other college fans...regardless of whether you have a Master's Degree and think you are easy on the eyes. (And the vanity as to do with exactly WHAT?!?!?!).

I have no idea whether the guy really s**t on the band member's seat, or whether they guy was a WVU fan. I can only judge based on my own experiences with your fans:

1. At the 2004 game against Pitt (which Pitt won... not to slight your team's terrific football and basketball performances over the last 3 years), a WVU fan (wearing a WVU sweatshirt and hat) came out of the bathroom, turned to face a group of Pitt fans including me and my two sisters, and procedeeded to pull down his pants, pull toilet paper from his dirty bum, and then throw it toward us. And this is while the terrific Eers were WINNING the game. Did I mention they eventually lost?

2. At the Sugar Bowl last year, my niece (A WVU senior at the time) witnessed four MEN (not students), again wearing WVU garb, walk into a Georgia tailgate crowd. Two of them men cheered while the other two forced themselves to vomit in the middle of the Georgia tailgate.

3. At this year's Pitt game, I was waiting in line at the port-a-potty waiting my turn, when two women (again, not students and wearing WVU garb) jumped in front of me, called me a fu**ing a**hole, and told me if I didn't let them go in the potty before me they would tell their boyfriends to kick my f**ing Pitt a**.

I could probably go on, but I know you get the point, since you have a Master's Degree and all.
Maddog
I went to a Harvard - Princeton game a few years back and you would not believe all the classlessness.

My friend (a Tiger) was insulted by some ruffian who told him he had the pallor of a Rodin sculpture in December. And it didn't stop there. There was a man drinking some substance from a paper cup. A cup made of paper! One neanderthal had taken off his cardigan and painted his naked torso titian . I kid you not. It was unbearable. Egads!
TheOtherFSU
Maddog, you crack me up and are kinda giving me the warm fuzzies right now. smile.gif
GymMountainEER
Dnd,


It sounds as if you have been traumatized by your "run ins" with WVU fans. Did you seek therapy? That might be a first step.

The point is on sports message board it seems that WVU's crowd control becomes a major issue especially when WVU is highly successful. Why is that? Sour grapes? Especially interesting when these assertions become the rallying cry for all that possess WVU-ENVY and hurl them at WVU fans likw myself who are the anti-thesis of the attributes described in these "ASSERTIONS".



Of course, like many Virginia Tech and Pitt fans who have made a profession of crying over WVU's fan base after typically been on the losing end of football and basketball games over the last 30 years, I find humor.

I guess after growing up in Knoxville and attending over 100 plus University of Tennessee games in Knoxville, Athens, Starkville, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville, Baton Rouge, Lexington, Columbia, Louisville, Atlanta, and so forth, If I reported every incident of bad fan control at a college football game day, it would take 3 months of posting. I've witnessed Georgia fans urinating on UT fans from above a hill, Dawg fans throwing beer at elderly and kids, much vulgar comments seeking altercations at a friend ( former GT baseball player) and myself who were walking through a sea of red looking for a uga tailgate. What did I do? I carried on with festivities and didn't allow jackasses to ruin what is the essence of college football. , I found my tailgate, shot a few ,and went to the game and had a blast. My friends and I laugh ( as most fan bases do) at the redneck that comprise of the vocal minority of college game days. Just as Georgia fans laugh at the Tennessee redneck fans that make asses of themselves in Knoxville, Tennessee fans laugh at the Geogai rednecks. . Just as the Auburn fans laugh at Georgia redneck fans and vice versa.

Does WVU have this element?- Absolutely. As I said above WVU is not immune. Maybe WVU gets more PR because the WVU's opponents are less passionate about football. Virginia Tech just started playing football 10 years ago when Vick invented football & possibly all 12 of Pitt' fans are ultra sensitive that their Tondy Dorsett will never carry the football again. Could that be part of the reasoning?

There comes a time when you can either be a college gameday victim as Pitt and VT fans seem to suffer from a the perpetual college gameday battered wife syndrome every time WVU inflicts a loss on their team or you can chalk incidents as you describe as the occasional WVU idiot fan that is most likely a nascar fan oc college football who never set foot on a college campus other than for a sporting event.

I live in Atlanta and have alot of UGA fans that are friends and aquatiences. I'm intelligent enough to know that the 2 games where I've witnessed those actions are not representative of the entire UGA fan base. Are they arrogant? Yes. Hell, if that was a sin, I would be in trouble as would many people and fan bases in America.


Of course, why is it when Pitt and VT wins there are no incidents? When VT and Pitt lose WVU fans are the anti-christ? Also, it seems Rutgers, USF, Syracuse, UCONN, and some other programs that are very familiar with WVU in football and basketball might have a different take on WVU fans.

I'm just excited that there is an actual living breating functioning PITT fan. I was beginning to think your kind had gone way of the dinosaurs. Btw, I like Pitt. Probably more than the typical WVU fan does. Don't take to heart some of my comments. I'll make a deal with you. Next time if you want, I'll protect you from the WVU fan militia just so you can enjoy the Backyard Brawl, ok?
GymMountainEER
As I thought, this was hoax by Georgia Tech fans. It never happened.


Many Georgia Tech spoofs have been used under this alias:

http://www.alumni.gatech.edu/news/alummag/sum99/mystery.html

Poor Steel Resolve and company. Just when they thought they had something smile.gif.
theodoresdaddy
I was going to say that this clip has been shown to be a hoax

good try SR-better luck next time
SteelResolve
QUOTE(theodoresdaddy @ Jan 5 2007, 01:27 AM) *

good try SR-better luck next time


Good try ?

riiiight.....I had "gym" mountaineer making up excuses and throwing a sissy fit....exactly the reaction that I knew I would get.
DnD10598
'Eer,

I like WVU too, more that most Pitt fans. But I do NOT like most of your fans that I have encountered. You forget I reported only what I witnessed. Did I say the incidents made me want to hang myself? No.

Have you heard the phrase "Thou dost protest too much?" I fear that's what's happened here.

You keep cheering on your 'Eers and I will my Panthers. And please don't sh*t on our seats. biggrin.gif
GymMountainEER
Nice attempt at damage control.

When someone posts a hoax (just as I said above it was) who's gulliable/naive/slow enough to believe the ridiculous assertion was accurate, then there is little doubt who the clown is in this paticular case.


Here is some future advice. Next time, don't allow your WVU-envy emotions to prevail over common sense. Think for yourself on whether you are posting accuracy before transforming into a giddy middle school girl seeking attention, ok? smile.gif






QUOTE(SteelResolve @ Jan 5 2007, 02:03 PM) *

Good try ?

riiiight.....I had "gym" mountaineer making up excuses and throwing a sissy fit....exactly the reaction that I knew I would get.
theodoresdaddy
QUOTE(SteelResolve @ Jan 5 2007, 06:03 AM) *

Good try ?

riiiight.....I had "gym" mountaineer making up excuses and throwing a sissy fit....exactly the reaction that I knew I would get.



what part of "TRY" don't you understand SR?

you took a discredited story and posted it on here trying to slam WVU fans and you failed

that is defined as trying, and it's defined as failing
GymMountainEER
"that is defined as trying, and it's defined as failing"

Also can be defined as "flailing" too. biggrin.gif
GymMountainEER
Sports Illustrated issues an apology to WVU and WVU fans for printing the hoax as factual. Seems many including Steel Resolve and the Girls over at the Q allowed their giddiness to insult all things WVU to become trigger happy instead of using commons sense. Naturally, as is always the case, the truth comes out.

As T-Daddy and I stated, this was a hoax from day one. We were right. The anti-WVU flailers were wrong.


Link Below:

http://www.dailymail.com/story/Sports/+/20...nts-correction/

Next.
StPtGator
QUOTE(GymMountainEER @ Jan 4 2007, 03:27 AM) *

All fanbases have idiots. WVU's program is certainly not immune.
I find much comedy that posters and fans of teams that dislike WVU are obsessed with non sports related smack talk. I guess the old addage is true. If you can't beat them, insult them.

Perhaps you should follow your own logic and apply this response to the topic you started about SEC schools and their humor........
Can't have it both ways......
GymMountainEER
QUOTE(StPtGator @ Feb 26 2007, 07:12 PM) *

Perhaps you should follow your own logic and apply this response to the topic you started about SEC schools and their humor........
Can't have it both ways......


Champ,

My logic isn't applicable to in my post regarding the SEC mindset.

My logic " If you can't beat them, insult them" doesn't apply to WVU in its relation to the SEC.

WVU is 5-0 against SEC teams in its last 5 games. Also, WVU has a winning record all time against SEC teams.


WVU has certainly beaten them. So, its not sour grapes when a WVU an insults the SEC.

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theodoresdaddy
QUOTE(StPtGator @ Feb 26 2007, 11:12 AM) *

Perhaps you should follow your own logic and apply this response to the topic you started about SEC schools and their humor........
Can't have it both ways......


how can anyone with half a brain call those racist displays humor?
Frank Bruno
It's pretty obvious for over a year (!!!) that there are some people on the Outsports discussion board who enjoy antagonizing others and opening up big boxes of sh*t for everyone to deal with under the guise of "friendly sports discussion". Their disorders are their own; I'm not really interested in dealing with the reasons behind their actions. So be it. This latest one was a certain straw man: find a reprehensible event, in this case a racist party that has sadly become almost commonplace at colleges nationwide, and because of this party having taken place at an SEC school, use it as an opportunity to assert one's tired argument that "our conference is better than your conference". Normally, this would be interesting and humorous because it would once again allow us to probe the depths of the human mind that give rise to obsessive and narcissistic disorders, namely the almost daily need of some people to antagonize and gleefully steer attention to themselves in a manic and unabashed manner. But this particular incident is low because of the things that are both implied (our conference/state is better because we are NOT racists) and stated (direct quote: "you would certainly not see this type of behavior at WVU. It would not be tolerated- Period. WVU ad paticularly Morgantown is a pretty prrogressive overall. It simply wouldn't happen"). This casual, somewhat racist, and wholly ignorant denial flies in the face of the following news flash: this sort of behavior is EVERYWHERE, even Almost Heaven, West Virginia itself, with a gay twist no doubt, and it's unfortunate that some people persist in using urgent social problems to buttress their boring arguments about sports rankings. It would be no different (AND no more stupid) than a guy from a WAC school displaying low test scores from a PAC-10 school to shove his ulterior motive down someone's throat. Or something worse. This motive and agenda, pushed in an oppressive, unenlightening, unfriendly and personal manner, has gone too far, AGAIN. Racism isn't endemic to the South. What happened at Auburn happens elsewhere. I don't just resent the implication that the Big East Conference and West Virginia University are superior to the Southeast Conference and Auburn University because of a racial-themed party took place at the latter - I am outright offended. I think the entire argument itself smacks of classlessness and discrimination on its own, and this inappropriate and baseless comparison trivializes the seriousness of the Auburn party and others by linking it to a frivolous sports argument, and drags down what used to be a fun place to talk sports. The icing on the cake was the response that "well, West Virginia has beaten the SEC in sports competition, so I can poke fun at racism in the SEC." I don't know which is worse anymore: the initial message or the replies used to justify it. To reversely paraphrase Elvis Costello, I used to be amused, but I'm finally disgusted.
GymMountainEER
You make some good points Bruno. Some are off base and missing the point.

Not to disregard the motives and behavior of the reasoning subject like this are posted on Out sports, but I fail to see how BLATANT racism ( this time at Auburn) on a college campus should not be overlooked. This act far supercedes any motives of any out sports posters.

Possibly this dialogue opens up some serious questions about racism in America.


There are anywhere from a couple thousand ( Division II) to 109,000 fans ( Michigan) that attend a couple football games. There are hundreds of games on played on any given Saturday in the Fall. A College Football team's Roster has anywhere from 55 ( Division II) to 80 ( Division I) players. On that roster, African Americans constitute 50 to 65 percent of the rosters of most Division 1 teams. However, when you look in the stands ( with exceptions to black colleges), maybe 3-5 percent of the fans are African Americans. Granted, student population of African Americans are higher ranging from 7 percent ( at the University of TN) to 15 percent ( Ole Miss, Miss State, Southern Miss, or South Carolina).

The point is this:

Just how segregated is America in today's climate?

These kids at Auburn ( could be any other school too) most likely paint their face Orange and Blue and cheer for their Beloved Tigers on Game Day Saturdays. An Auburn football team that most likely consists of having 55 to 65 percent African Americans on its roster any given year. They scream, yell, and throw love at Auburn Players for almost 3 hours.


However, after the game ends, how much interaction does Auburn ( insert any school including WVU) fans have with African Americans outside athletic events? That's a Question that many are uncomfortable talking about openly.

How can these kids that did this act have such a love for their football and athletic teams, yet turn around and conduct themselves in the manner they did? Its obvious these kids ( who are intelligent and obviously not any members of hate groups) were dumb drinking college kids that thought they were having harmless fun.

The only reason one could think of they would perform acts like this is because we still live in a society that has underlying issues with Race. Its uncomfortable to talk openly and only surfaces when issues like this arise. It wouldn't surprise me if one of these kids didn't have a Jersey of African American Auburn player that was hanging next to the white sheet and rope that he wore to this KKK party. I would venture to say he didn't even think anything about that he wears that type of Jersey for 3 hours on game days, yet wears a costume that night to a frat party that would cause pain and affliction to same player who's jersey he wore just hours ago.


This forum is as good as any to discuss racism on college campuses . College Athletics is one of the few platforms where African American the deserving attention to discuss the underlying issues of racism in America.
Frank Bruno
Blow it out your ass. I'm not off base or missing the point, because to you, there IS no point. YOU are the point, in your own psychotic mind, crammed with so much dysfunction and bullsh*t that it would take the entire medical community to figure you out. The ONLY reason you brought this up is obvious, and now it blows up in your face AGAIN. You didn't open up this issue to "start a dialog about race", or "not overlook blatant racism". You brought it up for one reason and ONE REASON ONLY: it serves your perverse psychological need to direct attention to your own perceived superiority. You brought it up to suggest that because a school in the Southeastern Conference is racist, YOU are superior. That's why you brought it up, buddy, and I don't buy your backpedaling bullsh*t. You try to ask things in an intelligent manner ("the point is this, just how segregated is America in today's climate" - whatever the f*ck that means) but instead, your ego trips and insecurities are laid bare for everyone to see time after time after time. Your agenda is so frighteningly obvious that anyone with one-tenth of YOUR brain capacity could figure it all out: you USED the subject of racism to drive home a TIRED, BORING argument about the superiority of your sports conference, and by default your school, and by default your state, and by default yourself. You are a Circus Maximus of personality disorders and shameful acts of self-aggrandizing narcissisms that routinely leaves me offended, and this time you have gone too far.

Don't try to make this into some sort of intelligent discussion about race, because you brought it on yourself, jackass. Don't try to make this appear like you are doing something healthy and cathartic for me, or us. You did this to shine the spotlight on yourself, which you do every day, and I see it on here all the time. There are at least three threads active right now that are of your own creation that are singular attempts to convince everyone of your own self-importance. You are a classic example of tacky, juvenile, unintelligent attention-hogging and a flat-out liar. I don't care about your sniveling attempts to justify what you said by starting this thread to begin with, because everyone knows that buried underneath every single word out of your mouth is an ulterior motive that revolves around you and your sick psychoses. Go get a blog and spout off about how wonderful the Big East is and how that, by default, makes you the MAN. That way, we can all get back to the business of having fun without living under the cloud of bullsh*t that you bring here day after day.

I'll close with your words, jackass - eat them and weep.

QUOTE
I would like to apologize for my part in contributing to the dysfunctional behavior of the board ... I made references to gay people that were completely insensitive and insulting. This behavior was insulting to the viewers/readers of the board who were not participating and intensifying the situation. Whether I felt insults were justified & warranted based on previous posts by posters that relished in delivering non -sports content, Outsports is certainly not a forum for this type of behavior and certainly not the forum where gays are portrayed in any derogatory tone or manner. I used comments that were insulting to gay people ( myself since I am openly gay) as a way to reply and combat initial insults. As I saw it working, I continued to apply these stereotypes even though its not something that is honestly how I feel ( just the contrary). Its something that I am embarrassed for my part. I allowed emotions to win over common sense. Again, I apologize to Outsports and its readers who weren't participating in these posts and were innocent bystanders/viewers. I look forward to constructively debating & posting with real sports enthusiasts. Again, my apologies to the readers of Outsports.
GymMountainEER
I fail to see what an apology well over a year has to do with this thread or post. Also, if you are going to play the role of Joan of Arc, I suggest a lot less rambling. Your point gets lost in the process ( if there was even one to begin with).

Out of that circus, I was the only one that at least apologized for my actions and comments. There were many other egos that participated and never stepped forward to take the accountabilty for the fray they initially insitgated. My comments were tame compared to other's who delivered much more severe insults than I did. The same insults that continute bashing people on another board. That's all I will commet on those events from a year ago that you are poorly attemptint to use in this argument.


As for my posts on Big East/WVU, who the hell doesn't cheer for their team or conference and illustrate some bias. This is a sports message board. Sports and athletics are highly competitive. I didn't come to this board to paint toe nails and receive facials. That doesn't mean insulting should be the premise for posting either. However, I fail to see any insulting beyond underlying ribbing. I initially posted this post as to illustrate all fans of temas have their baggage. I've never stated WVU fans are superior to any other fans. I'm passionate and love college athletics and will defend the things I value. If this post hit a little too close to home and ruffled feathers, that's tough. Deal with it. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Either don't read the posts or do. You can navigate as you choose to. Just as you choose to champion a distorted version that you have chosen to do, there seems to have the same ulterior motives you directed at me.
StPtGator
QUOTE(GymMountainEER @ Feb 26 2007, 07:43 PM) *

Champ,

My logic isn't applicable to in my post regarding the SEC mindset.

My logic " If you can't beat them, insult them" doesn't apply to WVU in its relation to the SEC.

WVU is 5-0 against SEC teams in its last 5 games. Also, WVU has a winning record all time against SEC teams.
WVU has certainly beaten them. So, its not sour grapes when a WVU an insults the SEC.

wink.gif

Point is you call people out for bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with football when it slants against your team. Then you start an entire thread that has nothing do with football slighting the SEC. I guess you just like to stir the pot......... but can't take it when someone dares target your team.....

QUOTE(GymMountainEER @ Feb 27 2007, 05:19 PM) *

You make some good points Bruno. Some are off base and missing the point.

Not to disregard the motives and behavior of the reasoning subject like this are posted on Out sports, but I fail to see how BLATANT racism ( this time at Auburn) on a college campus should not be overlooked. This act far supercedes any motives of any out sports posters.


So why are you starting a thread about this event in the college football section? And didn't this particular party happen over 5 years ago? This should go under Politcs etc.
GymMountainEER
I'm ok with someone targeting my team/teams. Typically my team is the one that is usually targeted. I only repond accordingly smile.gif.

Obviously there are some emotions as a result of this thread. Interesting to say the least.

Gator, what did you think of Pat Head Summmit's singing of Rocky Top tonight? smile.gif
StPtGator
Luckily due to being at a conference i missed the game and the song. UGH!!!!!!!!
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