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Elemental
Remember years ago when Jerry Falwell took over the PTL Club from Jim Bakker? These televangelists are ruthless and evil. I don't believe that Falwell 's organization did any charitable work. It all went into their pockets. James Dobson and Pat Robertson will continue the evil work of the religous right.
Elemental
QUOTE(Enigma @ May 15 2007, 04:52 PM) *

BREAKING NEWS from CNN.com

The Rev. Jerry Falwell was found unconscious in his office Tuesday and taken to a hospital, a Liberty University executive told a newspaper
The poor bastard didn't make it.
Allen
You are on the ball today, aren't you? laugh.gif


QUOTE(Elemental @ May 16 2007, 10:17 AM) *

The poor bastard didn't make it.


Here's Queerty's take on it.
Elemental
Tibetans believe in several hell realms. Three fire hells, three ice hells, three crushing hells and three piercing hells. My mother told me yesterday when we were talking about Falwell's demise that she hoped he spent time in each of the Tibetan hells. I agree with that sentiment. In my view Falwell was an old bitch. Poor ole Maybell is now a widow.
Elemental
QUOTE(Allen @ May 16 2007, 03:22 PM) *

You are on the ball today, aren't you? laugh.gif
Here's Queerty's take on it.

Hey Allen, Are you going to Falwell's funeral? I must be on the A list to attend.
Elrond50
Alter: Don't believe the hype

I really have begun to enjoy Jonathan Alter's columns for Newsweek. This is one of the best and the target is Falwell.
sportinlife
Wonder if Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church will be there to protest. Surely Falwell's death can be twisted to be considered God's punishment of America for tolerance of gays. They've managed that trick with every other death or ill-fated event.

My first comment when my partner informed me by e-mail at work was "I pray he is greeted in heaven by a gay Jesus."

May he rest in peace.
jaragonus
Yes they are going to picket his funeral- ah yes divine irony- Mr Moral Majority will be cursed by a bunch of God Hates America nuts! Hallelujah!
Illini_fan
QUOTE(jaragonus @ May 16 2007, 04:33 PM) *

Yes they are going to picket his funeral- ah yes divine irony- Mr Moral Majority will be cursed by a bunch of God Hates America nuts! Hallelujah!
Here's the link. Fundie Fight! This week gets better and better.
George Twins fan
So a reason to like Fred Phelps, albeit just for one day.
jaragonus
Phelps makes Falwell seemed reasonable- the true spawn of Satan is Pat Robertson.
so fla ref
The MSM is really trying to put a lot of lipstick on this pig, no pun intended. I even heard James Dobson on CNN Radio say that Jerry Falwell had never said a bad thing about another person. I about drove off the road when I heard that.

I think Jonathan Alter's column was excellent. The last line was especially accurate...'Being famous does not make one significant. And Jerry Falwell was not.' Because when you look beyond all of the media hype and glorification and the political posturing, Falwell did not contribute anything meaningful to a thoughtful society.

I was brought up to be respectful of the dead, and Falwell's death really puts that to the test. I cannot help but throw one of his most outrageous statements right back in his face. It would go something like this...'You know, when we look at all of the family tragedies and gay teen suicides caused by the villification of gay people, I cannot help but point the finger at Jerry Falwell and people like him and say to them, 'You have helped these terrible things happen.' With all respect to his family, this was one man the world surely could have done without.
George Twins fan
Christopher Hitchens is my new hero:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkAPaEMwyKU

And just a week before he died he restated his claim that 9/11 was caused by the gays and lesbians and pro-choice.

I also just heard that a gay man ghost wrote one of Falwell's books. This boob claims he like Falwell's private persona but not his public persona. Sellout much?
UCLAfan
Thank you, GTF! That video was greatly appreciated.

I'm paraphrasing a quote here that would be quite appropriate: "All that it takes for good men to commit acts of evil is belief in religion." Hitchens makes his point quite succinctly.
Elemental
I saw the Christopher Hitchens CNN interview on YOUTUBE. I always liked Hitchens and have read his brand new book, but his pro war in Iraq stance makes me sick. An intellectual like Hitchens should understand how wrong that war is. A rich 60 odd year old like Hitchens will not be taking a tour of duty in Iraq. As to Falwell, he was an Elmer Gantry who was in it for the money. He brought pain to so many gay and lesbian youth. Most of the religous right types have others ghost write their books. Falwell liked to be called 'doctor' Falwell. He had no earned doctorate in any field.
fenwayguy
QUOTE(George Twins fan @ May 17 2007, 10:32 AM) *
I also just heard that a gay man ghost wrote one of Falwell's books. This boob claims he like Falwell's private persona but not his public persona. Sellout much?

What you heard may have been someone's interpretation of this entry on the Gay News Blog, which in turn is a reprint from Falwell's hometown paper.

The speaker was Mel White, who did ghostwrite Falwell's "autobiography" before coming out and becoming one of his chief critics. But apparently he liked the man on a personal level.
QUOTE
I was in the dentist's chair when I heard that Jerry Falwell passed away. I couldn’t believe that I started crying. I had to find an office and I just cried. I was trying to think, Why the heck am I crying? I think I was crying for his family. He was a great father and husband, and he was a really good pastor—I’ve been going to his church for years, so I know—and he was a really good president of a university.

Falwell was the face of homophobia... I kind of liked him. I didn’t like what he said, but he had a private persona that was really quite amiable...

As far as the future of the religious right, he just graduated 3,750 little Falwells last week. Liberty University will have a school with more students than UC Berkeley or UCLA within 20 years. That's the kind of foothold he has on education. He's got an accredited law school, like Pat Robertson's Regent University. They're both turning out lawyers who are wiggling their way into politics and government. An entire generation is coming up that really loves Falwell, and I'm afraid they're all going to be antigay. We gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people are really missing it when we think the older generation will pass and the newer generation will save us. A whole new generation of people is being prepared to condemn us.

- Reverend Mel White remembers the late Reverend Jerry Falwell, The Advocate, 5/16/07

Another acquaintance of Falwell's reminisces (as reported by sportswriter King Kaufman).
Maddog
Bill Maher - Bye Jerry Falwell
CPT_Doom
ABC News is reporting a Liberty University student was arrested with apparent Napalm bombs at the funeral.

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The student, 19-year-old Mark Ewell of Amissville, Va., reportedly told authorities that he was making the bombs to stop protesters from disrupting the funeral service. The devices were made of a combination of gasoline and detergent, a law enforcement official told ABC News' Pierre Thomas. They were "slow burn," according to the official, and would not have been very destructive.


Authorities are still looking for co-conspirators.

I guess if you equal "disrupt" to "kill" throwing burning gasoline on people, this would be effective. Of course, the only protesters were apparently Fred Phelps crews, so I have to admit, I'm of two minds on this arrest. tongue.gif

ABC News Coverage
Illini_fan
My favorite (evil) T-shirt website was all over this last week. I'm thinking about getting one.
fantomas
Isn't Liberty U supposed to be CHRISTIAN? What on earth are they teaching their little wingnuts if one was planning to napalm someone else? Do they just skip the entire NEW TESTAMENT, which is the story of JESUS CHRIST'S LIFE and teachings?
UCLAfan
QUOTE(fantomas @ May 22 2007, 09:59 PM) *

Isn't Liberty U supposed to be CHRISTIAN? What on earth are they teaching their little wingnuts if one was planning to napalm someone else? Do they just skip the entire NEW TESTAMENT, which is the story of JESUS CHRIST'S LIFE and teachings?


FT, you're making too much sense. Your logic is flawless. Therefore, you must be "off your rocker" by the how the right-wing nutjobs think.
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