QUOTE(George Twins fan @ Jul 3 2007, 11:49 AM)

I don't think Joe was discrediting officials. Rather, his point is that we're getting these peripheral people (retirees, refs, front office people) coming out. And let's be honest, this would have been a much bigger story if it was a male ref. But the real story won't be until an actual current player comes out.
Kudos to Violet and best of luck to her, but in all probability most people probably suspected she was gay already. So as a news story, it's kind of on par with the breaking news that Water is Wet, Bush is an Idiot and the Pope is Catholic.
Yeah...if you notice The Advocate article wasn't really a "coming out" piece, it was a collection of stories that features gays and lesbians with "Cool Jobs"..... as George mentions, most people connected with the NBA already knew about Violet and it was the casual NBA fan/viewer that this came to as "news".... for those of you interested, it's the issue of The Advocate with Homer Simpson on the cover (DUH!); actually has a couple really interesting articles including an interview with Michael Moore as well as the Simpsons piece.