David Letterman had some choice comments about Craig last night. They played a snippet during "Hardball" this afternoon. He said what Carig was doing in the restroom gave new meaning to the word "caucusing"..think cockasing........

Jay Leno jokes:

"The Democrats may have control of the House, but the Republicans have control of the bathrooms."

"Sen. Craig gave a press conference today where he said, I'm not gay, I've never been way. Then he apologized to his wife, Liza Minelli."

Too f'n funny.

LMAO!

And ohmygawd a hypocrite of the worst kind. But we've seen this kind of stuff before. Who was that slimy guy who was head of the Fundamentalist Church, preaching specifically about how bad homos were? AGH! Great when they get busted and EXPOSED.
BTW, what did Mr. Craig do, my gay brothers? All they say in the paper was that he was in a pose that people assume when they want to solicit for sex? The mind makes a picture that is comical, but sad. Actually pathetic that guys have to do that in bathrooms....and can't go home to their wives and ... well.....

Leno's line is hysterical..

I noticed Craig said he'd never been gay, but he didn't say he'd never had sex with men.

The unmistable red flag is that no one who was innocent of this specific charge would ever have pled guilty, AND not told anyone: his wife, his attorney, absolutely no one. If that's not an obvious cover up of guilt, I don't know what is...

Dr. Drew was the one on LKL who said that there's a clinical description now of "men who have sex with men" but aren't considered gay. Now we know women do this often in the spirit of entertaining their base heterosexual guys, but they may not be lesbians. But guys who have sex with men secretly, on the side, on the down low, whatever - keep it hidden, furtive, in the dark. But they're not gay.

Frankly, I'd hate to claim them. They have such incredible homophobia rushing through their veins. In fact, if these kind of guys weren't doing so much damage politically, I'd feel sorry for them.

Right wing bastard Tucker Carlson who wears the trademark bowtie and unfashionable parted hair has admitted to bashing a man in a public restroom. Carlson claims that when he was in high school he was in a public restroom and a man came on to him. Carlson came back with a friend who helped beat the man up. They then turned him over to the police. This story sounds very suspicous to me. Suspicous as in not telling the full story. I wonder if Carlson was participating in sexual behavior himself? He is known for his venomous homophobia. Another case of a witch being behind the witchhunt?

Carlson always likes to brag about being married and having a bunch of kids. He claims not to take his small son into public restrooms because of all the 'weirdos'. Maybe gays wouldn't want to be in a restroom with a right wing fascist with a bowtie.

I still find it so silly that Mrs. Craig stays with the bastard. When he comes home after carrying on does she sniff his breath to see if it smells like cum?

This is from today's New York Post

There were allegations in the nineties that Tucker Carlson raped a young woman. He dismissed the allegation by claiming the woman is mentally ill.

Two tof his statements are particularly indicative of how tortured this man is.

"never was gay" implies he thinks it is something that could change if it happened to him.

and

His claim that if he did such a thing he would never do it in Idaho. Shades of OJ Simpson's in that claim.

He goes beyond the usual politician's parsing of words into the realm of near insanity, as a previous poster suggested.

The rising voice also suggests great stress and desperation. Not signs of honesty.

Smoking gun has the best humor juxtaposing him to this enticingly cute cop.

sport, you nailed it spot on. That cop is extremely cute. Cute enough to date, but not cute enough to solicit in a Minneapolis bathroom.

I was just listening to the audio tapes of what the Senator had said during his arrest. He needs to change his name to Cleopatra, Queen of Denial.

The cop is cute- but couldn't the Senator had asked him for a drink first?

Wow! They're really covering this whole fiasco on CNN right now. You gotta watch.

Drat. Will you guys please clue me in to what exactly did he do in the restroom that was so doggone gay and what made the plainclothes officer say that Craig wanted sex?? Did he wave his member in his face??

go sgt. dave karsnia....HOT!

how can you be so f**king stupid, mr. craig? public bathroom? in an airport?

i'm a magnet to these "i'm not gay, i have a f**king girl, i love to f**k pussy but occasionally want cock" type of men.

i know your kind senator.

Hopefully we will have no full length replays of the entire police recording. Its been played to death. I had a classic political cartoon this morning in my paper, had a picture of a bathroom stall, with Sen. Craig peering through and up from the divider and saying, " No I am not gay"! Oh and did anyone else hear Sean Hannity trying to explain what happened?? Think he is in deep denial as well.....Dan Abrams let him have it last night.

What I don't understand...and help me here gys, is why would a person who "wanted sex" not choose a private, romantic hotel with soft sheets, candles, ambiance, and a loving partner, but instead goes to a probably filthy public restroom, with cold tiles, and seek an unknown mouth or whatever of a stranger? Gawd!






I haven't heard any replays except the police recording of where the idiot hypocrite is being read his rights, and says something like he just wants to get out of there. If he admitted to lewd conduct, he did it. STUPID STUPID man. Should be out of office immediately. No trial needed. He admitted being lewd. Gay is not the issue.

Ding ding ding! You have the answer my San Diegan sistah. Remember in their mind "they're not gay." So anything remotely romantic w/ another man would only send them into the gay abyss w/ the possibility never to return from that abyss. ...They are so f**king deep in the closet w/ BIG time issues that they couldn't possibly head down that route. So someone like "Mr. Gayg" would only want to have an encounter that would be the least threatening, sexuality speaking that is. Ahhhh, but the price one pays for quite risky--and illegal-- behavior!

I personally think that cop Dave Karsnia's identity should have been kept secret from the world. Now he will get all sorts of invasion of privacy. He was just doing his duty.

That would be a great & funny avatar fenway! Seriously.

...Ah yes, the tangled webs we weave when we practice to deceive.

Craig is so in denial he would deny being a cocksucker if a cock was in his mouth. THE BASTARD.

I wonder if old man Craig knows how to give good head. He's had years of practice. But I personally would be disgusted to have my dick in that old pervs mouth. And young Detective Dave could do better than that old bastard whether with a woman or a man.

My partner thought Karsnia was being a bit aggressive and somewhat entrapping of Craig in the audiotape. Herewith a story about the real Dave Karsnia.

Craig may have been lucky he was the arresting officer and not one of Philadelphia's finest.

And after this little episode I don't know how Sgt. Karsnia will ever return to stuff like cart enforcement.

Cute as he is he could have a part in one of the zillion episodes of cop and comedy shows about this incident. He wouldn't even have to act - just make a cameo.

I guess from now on instead of people asking "are you gay" they will ask "do you have a wide stance", LOL.

Sounds like Larry Craig is resigning tomorrow according to MSNBC.

Stance?
I listened to Glenn Beck (zzz) today and the issue seemed to be the placement of Craig's hand under the stall.....palm up some thumb action. Was he looking for someone to lay their member in his hand under the stall? Can this whole thing be anymore ludicrous and degrading, not just for him, but for his famiily, etc.
Gee with all this talk of hot sex in filthy, airport restrooms, I can't wait for my next trip to go and get some hot action! So emotionally nurturing, and personally satisfying. Great for self esteem.... I found love with a stranger's hand under a stall. God, I hope this all goes away when the idiot resigns.
One thing Glenn did say over and over was, people don't have to do this anymore. They can be open and proud and live a healthy gay life!

and he's outta there

at least he'll announce it tomorrow

why announce on the first Saturday of college football season?

he thinks that no one will notice?

Their is no more potent antiseptic than light. Shed light on something and it can kill all sorts of vermin. They should take the wraps off Sgt. Karsnia and let him go onto all these talk shows that are no-doubt chomping at the bit to interview him.

Revealing this entire sordid behavior of unwanted toilet advances and misuse/abuse of public facilities would do more to discourage it than a thousand Sgt. Karsnias lurking in stalls to lure them in to convictions.

And I'd like to hear more from Sgt. Karsnia about his attitude toward his job. He may have a political career out of this, but shedding light on his motivations could perhaps clear up some vermin as well.


Our society could learn a lot about itself.

Staying tuned.

It's always good to have a "Butch" behind you, huh "Wide Stance"?

A clever mashup of said number: If Larry Craig Were Gay

Hilarious!

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The Toronto Star has a big article in today's paper featuring the Republican elephant logo--in pink--and the headline The Elephant in the Room.

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I find it interesting how Craig's long-time Republican colleagues dropped him like a hot potato. I mean, it's not like he murdered anyone. While the act was unseemly, could not somebody--some friend--stand up for him and say, He's a good man but he made a mistake?

It's amazing how your supposed friends can drop you so quickly. On this note I'm looking forward to the movie The Walker, which stars Woody Harrelson as a gay man who squires prominant Washington D.C. ladies to parties and such. He becomes implicated in a murder to which he is innocent, but his former friends drop him like a hot potato. As Lauren Bacall's character says: "Let me give you a piece of Washington wisdom. Don’t stand between a friend and a firing squad."

This seems to be what happened to Craig. And it's eerie how fact is mirroring fiction (the film has been released in the U.K., but doesn't open in the U.S. until December). I'm hoping to see it at the Toronto Film Festival, where it's getting a gala screening.

This incident clearly reveals how homophobic the Republican party is- ironically how one of their own defenders of decency is caught with his pants down they can't wait to shove him into the pit.

At least this story is leading to some very serious discussion about gay rights and public behavior.

This editorial refers to Laud Humphreys's 1970 dissertation on the subject, which might become required reading in more college courses now.

But the potential personal damage to people most closely affected is immeasurable. I wonder how Senator Craig's adpoptive son will feel if his father ever does come out as gay.

This article suggests he would not take it well

I suspect his adoptive daughter(s?) would be stronger about such an emotional trauma, and might have suspected before.

Love this quote from the article:



So there you have in a nutshell the tell tale signs of a cocksucking homophobe living in your midst:
- Married man
- Nice home w/ perfect lawn
- Well educated
- Workaholic
- Active in his church & community
- Politically conservative
- Vocal right-wing homophobe

...So Jim Bakker lied to the public after all, he was gay according to the description above. No seriously, most of these findings SCREAM homo!

I also like the last paragraph:

Read a small story in the Spokesman-review this morning where his older son, said that he "asked his father some pretty tough questions right after the story broke", and now said he believes his Fathers' story. Said he looked right in his eyes and that he could tell when a parent was telling the truth.......

We have a lot of prejudiced misconceptions in this country. If you removed the last characteristic "-Vocal right-wing homophobe" and replaced it with "-Vocal right-wing defender of children" you would probably get a perfect description of a pedophile (i.e. Foley).

And if you told most USA-ians that a ideologically backward nation had maliciously invaded another country under false pretenses and slaughtered a 100,000 while directly or indirectly causing the death of up to a million they would not recognize their own nation in the picture. Denial, denial, denial (I think three times is the biblical requirement, and a fundamental of fundamentalist Islamic justice too BTW).

We need to get over all the preconceptions and see the damage, both physical and psychological, being done by the denial of reality. The so-called Founding Fathers indulged deeply in that arguement during the Enlightenment. We have betrayed the principals they sought to inscript. As they did themselves through Black African slavery.

Hypocrisy is nothing new and is, as far as I know, colorblind.

"You can't adopt a firm stance on public morals in the hope of soliciting votes, while adopting a wide stance in public lavatories in the hope of soliciting blokes. "
from The Times, London, Aug 31st

The pix that the quote paints in my head is too f'n funny!

Here's something to ponder:

Sept. 2 (Bloomberg) -- Senator Arlen Specter said Idaho Republican Larry Craig should try to withdraw his guilty plea to disorderly conduct in connection with an incident in an airport men's room and fight the case.

``I think he could be vindicated,'' Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said on the ``Fox News Sunday'' program.


[b]One lawmaker coaching another how to beat the system. They have no respect for the laws that they vote on. He pled guilty to lewd conduct and now in hindsight is being encourgared to fight the case.
In the words of the police officer who arrested him this is embarrasing.

The AP is reporting that Craig is reconsidering his decision to resign.

If he happens to drag this out right through the Republican convention in Minneapolis with everyone arriving in view of a certain collapsed bridge (symbolizing the nations neglected infrastructure) then we could be witnessing the perfect storm for the Graft & Orgy Party.

Great! I hope he sticks around for a while and keeps this firestorm burning. He does realize that quite a few Rethugs have already cut him loose, right? Every time he utters anything or votes in any way that's anti-gay, all someone needs to do is mention that he pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from another man, a police officer no less, in that airport bathroom, and later tried to intimidate the cop. Just the kind of posterboy the Rethug Party deserves!

I wonder if he has ever considered opening a waffle shop...he's quite the pro at it! First, he's gay then not gay. Guilty then not guilty. Resigning then not resigning. Make up your mind already, you freak!

Hey there, MB! Saying that about Larry Craig gives freaks a bad name. I know some respectable freaks and they're not as vile or contemptible as Sen. Craig is.

The general talking head consensus is that he is "testing the water" to see if anyone may come to his aid/rescue or supports him much like Arlen Specter seems to be doing.. I was wacthing Dan Abrams last night, he and others still think Craig will resign though. If he doesn't, he will be another Repuglican albatross the Dems. can hold up and point to.

This man is amazing. This level of arrogance is astounding.

Uh-oh. Do you suppose we're in for another "I am a gay American" speech?

The latest I've heard is that Craig's son is cool with his dad being gay if he is gay. That aside, Craig is going to have to do a lot of 'splainin' about his homophobic voting record.

Okay, all you musical comedy queens can stop singing that song from "Avenue Q."

Cindy Williams had in the NY Post today a few words to say about Larry Craig.

Larry Craig and the US Constitution

The critical section of the Constitution states: "The Senators and Representatives shall receive a compensation for their services, to be ascertained by law, and paid out of the treasury of the United States. They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place."

Larry's detention was illegal and his plea is voided.

TRL