The melodramatic Walker family are back!

I know...I love it. I didn't start watching this show until a few shows before the end of last season and I absolutely love it.

Wow...fortunately I don't have any friends or relatives fighting this god awful war but if I did, I can imagine that every ring of the doorbell and every ring of my phone would have me thinking "is this the call?" It has to be so hard. Very good episode and I'm thinking next week that its not Justin that died, but rather a campaign appearance type thing at the family of someone from Justin's unit who did die.

A terrific episode -- definitely no sophomore slump for this show! The best part of the show for me was Rebecca's "family wrap-up" at the end. She totally gets her new family, the essence of each character and the role they play in the whole, especially Justin, who really is the heart and soul of the Walkers. When Nora was sobbing at the end, I got a bit misty-eyed myself (anytime a parent cries for a child, even in Pretend Land, I bawl).

Kevin has officially joined the Pantheon of Greatest Gay TV Characters (not that it's a terrifically long list, mind you). This is redemption for all the years I suffered watching those two camp eunuchs, Will Truman and Jack McFarland, pretend to be gay men (I watched because I adored Karen). Gotta say, though, I'm kinda glad the reverend-boyfriend is gone because there was just no chemistry there. Please oh please bring Chad back!!! As wrong and bad for each other as those two were, man oh man, they sparked some serious heat on the screen.

Finally, at what point does this family figure out that any "secret" they share with one is immediately broadcast to all? I burst out laughing at Kevin's "quickie during the spin cycle" line

They sure are covering alot on this show: now we've post partum blues as well. I love it though. Sally and Calista's throw down in the wedding dress scene was hysterical.

I'll be seriously bummed though if Justin doesn't come back alive.

And is Uncle Sol really going to turn out gay?

From the "scoops" I've read over the summer, Justin definitely comes back, but as damaged goods. Whether that means damaged physically or emotionally, I'm not sure, but I'm guessing it's emotional. And yes, Uncle Saul turns out to be gay. The producers approached Ron Rifkin about the possible storyline, and he was all for it.

Seems TV will have what might be its first +40 gay character in Uncle Sol.

the scene in the bridal shop was priceless!

Yay, Scotty is back!

I'm happy that new Scotty, not old Scotty, is back. As I suspected, the reason Old Scotty was so damn holier-than-thou, so "evolved" (in his own deluded mind), and so quick to pick on Kevin's issues was that he had so much bullsh*t going on inside that he didn't want to deal with. New Scotty has finally gotten a clue, and instead of expending all his energy psychosermonizing others, he's taken a good hard look at himself - a far more productive track, and something that makes him a far more likeable character.

OK, the question is, does Kevin fall for Scotty what with the Reverend all the way over in Malaysia? I'm guessing no, but that's probably my bias because I never saw any chemistry between these two. I'm hoping and praying that Kevin gets back in the sack with Chad, because those two had a chemistry that damn near melted my plasma. So Kevin gives Scotty the "friends speech," and the two do actually become friends while Kevin stays true to Rev and Scotty pines away for Kevin. Theirs becomes the greatest friendship since Rick Blaine and Captain Renault (albeit with millefeuilles layers of sexual tension) and all is rosey until Scotty stumbles upon Kevin and Chad checking each other for ticks.

No, I didn't read that on Ausiello's scoops; that's just how I'd like to see it play out

I have become a fan of this show. I love the problem with Justin taking the medicine. It was great.

And yes, Kevin is a sensational gay character. His sexuality doesn't define him, and his love life is intriguing without being slutty like the characters on Queer As Folk.

Tommy, how dare you have a fling with that slutty office manager! Sarah, you should have had a fling with that guy you met at the wedding! Justin, how dare you start sneaking drugs! And Kevin, cut Uncle Saul some slack. He'll come out in his own time.

The actor who plays the minister Kevin is dating is now free to come back to the show. His new fall series, Viva Laughlin, has already been cancelled after only two airings.

That guy at the wedding also played Sarge on Six Feet Under. Remember him?

Does anybody recognize Saul's 'friend' from Flashdance?

(sorry if somebody already mentioned this)

I don't think there's a better actress on TV right now than Sally Field. Even though she's one of the most recognizable actresses in the world, I never feel like I'm watching Sally Field... I always feel like I'm watching Nora Walker the mom.

This is the best drama on the air right now.

This show has definitely become a 'can't miss.'

Sol's going to be a kicking and screaming gay, isn't he? This should give Kevin lots of opportunity to go off with lines like "Why don't you wait until you're seventy to come out? Just in time to exchange dentures!"

Those three girls are so funny together...Brenda, Ally, and Gidget/Sybil/Norma Rae.

I've thought about it, and I think I'm glad that Kevin and Scotty are giving it another try. Although, I'm slightly bummed this probably means Jason won't be coming back. He was just so yummy!!! Scotty isn't bad, but he's no Jason.

I like the way this show portrays the gay characters.

I like that the gay characters are not perfect, are not just for comedy, are not drug addicts or dying AIDS patients, that they are accepted and respected members of a family, and that they are actually seen to have a sex life.

Kevin has finally come to his senses--Scotty forever!! (That said, I'm sure there's major drama ahead.)

And Sally Field and Chevy Chase. I wouldn't have predicted that pairing, but they seem good together.

Sorry, but Scotty makes a great friend but a horrible boyfriend for Kevin. First and foremost, just don't sense any chemistry between the two. They seem to be far more suited as "just friends" than anything romantic. You want chemistry? Gotta bring back Chad! Zowie!! that man made my plasma crackle!! I hope & pray that the producers/writers (who?) have the good sense to bring back Chad to muck things up between Kevin and Scotty. Chad might be all wrong for Kevin, but the two simply couldn't keep their paws off each other. With my luck, they'll bring back Jason instead, who was just so boringisimo (again, no chemistry there either).

Chevy Chase and Nora are a goofy pairing, but you're right, it works. When Justin apologized to Rebecca, he could not have been any cuter. Major props to Rebecca for being so forgiving, to the point of admitting that some of Justin's intervention nastiness was true. I love Love LOVE that Tom is throwing down with Justin over his (one-time) mistress. Wow! talk about drama!! Calista was terrific during her little tantrum, and when she stormed out and screamed "Shut up, Travis!", I couldn't stop cracking up.

What's the over/under on how many more episodes before Kevin finds himself in a love triangle?

PS: getting a little tired of the Senator being so preposterously perfect all the time. Kinda (yawn) boring.

Am I the only one that notices Rebecca's weird vibe towards Justin? I'm expecting any episode for her to declare her love for him. It's just oogie...

They are HALF-siblings...not step...gross.

Exactly! There's chemistry between YOU and Chad, but not Kevin and Chad.

Scotty and Kevin (and some lobster bibs) = Chemistry

Canmark thanks for posting that photo

After that terrific scene with Jason, Scotty, and Kevin, it was definitely time to revive this thread. For the record, Scotty's barging in on Jason and Kevin's powwow was super-bratty and fairly pathetic ... and uh, I mighta done the same. What's up with Scotty's crustacean fetish? He smooches Kevin after eating lobster, he barges into the powwow bearing softshell crabs ... can't wait to see what these three do with giant prawns. Anyway, it was sooooooooooooo obvious that Kevin is torn between Scotty and Jason. I'm a bit surprised that Scotty took Kevin's reassurances at face value.

Not crazy about Danny Glover, but maybe it's just all the whispering that drives me nuts. OK, Isaac's supposed to be a nice, sincere guy - got that. But isn't there some other way to convey that besides whispering everything he says to Nora? Gotta say, Kevin and Justin are two of the most interesting and engaging characters on TV whereas the third brother Tommy has to be one of the most boring. But I did like the way he approached Justin with the news about Lena.

After dropping the bombshell on Nora, Uncle Saul's been a bit absentee. Can't wait 'til they delve more into his closetedness. The preview showed a scene between Jason and Robert; good to see that Jason isn't going anywhere. There are just too many dramatic possibilities with that chracter.

Kevin is really starting to bug me...he says that he's over Jason, but then he fights with him in front of Scotty. And then he has the nerve to look at Scotty and tell him to stay out of it...UMM, NO!!!

I think I want to see Kevin and Jason back together. They had more chemistry in those few minutes fighting across the table than Kevin & Scotty ever have. And of course, Eric Winter is beyond gorgeous...he's just so pretty.

It's funny that you mention that, because last night, my partner said (towards the end when Rebecca and Justin were taking a walk) that there's sexual tension between the two characters. "I think they're going to kiss" my partner said, and I freaked out.

woudl that show "go there"???

eeew.

Scotty's such a doormat...Kevin's hungry in love with the pretty Missionary and that's just a fact.

Lena should go, go far away..now...she's gross.

Danny and Sally - sweet...

Come on, whose fault was that? Scotty knew Jason and Kevin had some very serious unfinished business to resolve, stuff that was way too heavy-duty to tackle over a couple of lattes at Starbucks. Because of a paroxysm of insecurity and jealousy, Scotty comes barging in anyway. Yeah, a tad awkward, but Scotty has only himself to blame.

Exactly! Nonetheless, Scotty accepts Kevin's reassurances that Jason's outta there and Scotty's the only one for him - hook, line, and sinker. Never mind that the sparks flying between Jason and Kevin could have set off a million-acre wildfire. After Kevin talks out of two sides of his mouth tells Scotty "only you," I half-expected Kevin to sell Scotty a can't-miss real estate deal in the Everglades.

There's a new episode tonight in case you haven't seen a promo somewhere.

I just can't figure out Kevin. Are we supposed to like him, cause I'm not sure? He's just so whiny, negative, blah, etc. Yes, it was cute (almost embarrassingly so ) when he got up on stage drunk and sang karaoke, but up until that, he sat at the table and said nothing. What a bore! Scotty's friends might have been bitchy and unwelcoming, but Kevin sure did nothing to change their minds until the end.

I don't know...he just underwhelms me on a consistent basis.

totally disagree, dwfAgg99! Kevin isn't just my favorite character on the show (well, co-favorite with Justin), he's one of my favorite characters on TV. In the bar when Kevin says to Sarah in a panic, "We've been spotted. Quick! look like we're having fun!" and then the two burst into the best fake merriment I've ever seen, I couldn't stop laughing. Yes, he was pouty and morose at the table with Scotty's (rather bitchy) friends, but only because he was bummed out that Sarah so easily won Scotty's friends over whereas he was the uptight, stuffed-shirt outcast. As much as Kevin cares about Scotty, though, it's pretty obvious that Jason's going to re-enter the picture pretty soon.

I liked the scene with Saul and Milo's housesitter friend. The show is going real slow with Saul's closetedness, appropriate because that's how it would happen in real life. The best line of the night came from Nora, when she told Kitty that sometimes mothering is all about sucking it up, so suck it up, Kitty!

I've totally fallen behind on this show... is it even on anymore?

Article in today's Globe and Mail about Luke Macfarlane (Scotty) where he outs himself. It also says that Scotty and Kevin will get married in the season finale.

I think there are finally supposed to be four new episodes beginning next Sunday. "Brothers and Sisters" is one of the very few TV shows I enjoy, but it's been a frustrating season, no doubt due in part to the writers' strike. I remember seeing one new episode back in February, after a long absence, and then it disappeared again until now. I didn't know that the character who plays Scotty is Canadian, and I applaud his public coming out...still way too few actors do so. I just hope he has better taste in his 'real life' choice of partner. I'm slowly starting to warm up to Kevin Walker but his whiny-ness, sarcasm and hostility to Senator McAllister still make him one of my least favourite characters on the show. I'll take the straight brother Justin any day, addictions and all.

I watched B&S last night and realized I'm way behind on that show. Since when did Sally Field start getting it on with Danny Glover (they're a cute couple, BTW)? I like that Ken Olin is on the show. I was totally hot for him on thirtysomething. He looks the same (albeit with a few extra pounds). I still cannot stand that Rebecca. Justin, what do you see in her?

I think this show is going to cross "the line".
DNA test will reveal that Rebecca is not their sister --- and (eeew) there would be a love affair between Justin and Rebecca.

OR worse...
The DNA will confirm that they are are indeed brother/sister. Next week previews I see Rebecca is upset about the result, and the reason is because she is secretly hoping that Justin is not her brother.
eew eew eew.

I have to say, I will be bummed out if she ends up NOT being a 'sister'. And that will mean her father is alive and fat.

I have a feeling that it will turn out Rebecca is a Walker but that Justin IS NOT. Frankly it's absurd that nobody did a DNA test from the get go. But I think Justin will either turn out to be adopted or Nora had her own affair/fling.

That would make for an interesting little twist, maybe have Saul be his dad (before he became a closet homo).

my head will blow of because that would mean that Saul slept with Nora?
or r u implying that Justin is Saul's son with another woman and that Nora adopted the child?

ok--- did I miss an episode where they disclosed who is the father of Tommy's children? didn't Justin and Kevin both came in a cup, mixed it before basting it to Tommy's wife? So who's babies were they? And both brothers should have been bummed because it might have been their child who died?

LOL - now you are making MY head spin!

They've been hinting that Rebecca and Justin were into each other from the beginning. Amber or whoever that chick was that tried to break up Tommy's marriage by seducing him before she started sleeping with his brother Justin even said as much to Rebecca in the Rob Lowe/Carlista Flockhart wedding episode and Rebecca was like "He's my brother!" or whatever. She's been around and supportive so it kind of makes sense. I am not surprised they would go this route. What's amazing to me is that Rebecca's mother is such a lying slut. She's the best!

I kind of feel like Bro/Sis is taking the opposite approach from traditional soaps where couples almost sleep together and nearly marry and even sometimes kiss (except Passions incest baby storyline) then they learn they are related and it's messed up. My personal fav, Adam and Fallon on Dynasty. They kissed and then this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX7ynksl2Lg...feature=related

I don't think Nora would ever cheat on William. She wasn't that strong. And Justin has to be a Walker. He, Kitty, and Kevin are the heart of the show. Kevin is annoying, but I enjoy seeing a gay couple on TV every week where the people aren't asexual like Will&Grace or soft porn like QueerAsFolk. Plus it's cool to see someone with issues. Not that any of us have any.

After Rebecca erupted with hurt and anger about not being a Walker after finally feeling like she belonged to this wonderful family, I was thinking, "oh no, she's not going to ... " But of course she did! And if I were Rebecca and I knew that Justin and I weren't related, yuppers, I'd be all over him like white on rice. Drug problem and all, Justin is (imho) the most adorable and endearing character on TV. Jay, thanks for the link. I almost forgot about the haute camp glory that was "Dynasty."

Bec's mom Holly can be such a selfish b*tch sometimes. Sure didn't feel the least bit sorry for her as she was sobbing with self-pity over David's abrupt departure. Yet I can understand why she deluded herself into thinking that Rebecca was William Walker's daughter. As the other woman and always on the back burner, she needed to feel like she had some special significance in William's life. And since Rebecca was born long before DNA testing, it wasn't difficult to make herself believe that Rebecca was a Walker. Nonetheless, Holly's decades-long delusion was still totally selfish.

I loved the plot twist about Saul's deceit and its potentially catastrophic consequences. Where are they going to get the money to bail themselves out? What about that land William left to them? Or do they tap into Rebecca's trust fund?

The "nah, not right" reaction to domestic partnership by both Kevin and Scotty reveals that these two are so not meant to be together forever and ever. So who is the 3rd man in the upcoming gay triangle, Jason or Chad? (oh please oh please, make it Chad)

For some reason I've always gotten the feeling that Kevin has never respected Scott. Not sure if it's a class thing or just that Scott is the hot waiter/chef. I guess that is a class thing. I actually liked both Chad and Jason; although Chad's vulnerability and straight sacrifice was a bit more exciting to me than someone going off on a mission. And Jason Lewis is really really hot and seems like he takes his craft seriously which is nice.

I think they will bring back Jason since he's connected to Rob Lowe's character. Maybe he breaks up the wedding. Then again, maybe not. It's nice to have these conversations about two dudes instead of pretending that you are the girl in a straight TV couple...unless of course we are talking Anna Devane on GH, then I'm totally Robert Scorpio!

P.S. - Rebecca saving the family with her trust fund is brilliant. BoSox, please let me know when your soap hits YouTube!

Golly!!! that's an excellent and educated guess, because if she wasn't a Walker, she really can't keep the fortune...

Here are my predictions to the show before the season ends:
- as predicted earlier, Rebecca will hook up with Justin soon after she divulges she is not a Walker.
- Kitty and Rob Lowe's character will split. I think the producers are ready to write him off the show.
- Saul is going to kill himself (I feel that his character has been diminished)
- Kevin and Scottie will get married--- there would be an event, such as Kevin will realize how much Scottie really means to him, and he will propose---the works (kneeling, ring, bj). because, didn't Scottie say something that he would only marry not for practical reasons? I thought that whole dialogue frames that engagement.
- Nora will get drunk (like always) and she'll fall in the pool and drown.

BTW....Bros. & Sisters won the GLAAD media award for Best Drama, and Ugly Betty won for Best Comedy.

omg I thought I was the only one with the kneeling, ring, bj dream proposal. sigh.

Didn't William's will simply leave a trust fund to Holly's daughter? I don't remember any mention of paternity, and if not, then the money is Rebecca's regardless. You're right, though - even though technically the money is hers, ethically, Rebecca just wouldn't feel right about keeping it. I guessed about Rebecca's trust fund saving the day because she was so devastated about no longer being a Walker. Even though she's not allowed to tap into it until she's 25, I'm guessing she twists Holly's arm (she's the executor of the trust fund, right?) by guilt-tripping her about the decades of deceit.

About your other predictions ...
Rebecca will hook up with Justin. Totally gonna happen. Rebecca will eventually confess to Justin that she lied about the paternity test. It will take Justin about 4.5 nanoseconds to rip Rebecca's clothes off.
Kitty and Rob Lowe's character will split. Not so sure about this one since their reconciliation seemed pretty solid, unless you've heard reliable scoop that writing him off is already in the works.
Saul is going to kill himself. God I hope not. I recently found out that an old co-worker committed suicide. Although he was always talking about women he was dating and all that, it was pretty much the universal consensus in the office that he was a closeted gay man. As devastating as the news of his suicide was, it wasn't entirely unexpected. Obviously there's no way to keep stats on this kind of thing (one never knows 100% for sure that a man is closeted), the suicide rate for closeted gays must be sky-high. While it would be a painfully realistic plot line with Saul, I'd hate to see it.
Kevin and Scottie will get married. Good point, Kevin's way-too-practical proposal did frame a future engagement for all the right romantic reasons. By the way, good for Scottie for sticking to his guns! With a $2500 medical bill looming over his head, it couldn't have been easy for Scottie to stick to his ideals. But I'm not so sure about the marriage actually happening because I still expect a 3rd man to come in and turn over the apple cart. If Rob Lowe stays in the picture, then Jason is the logical choice - so much unresolved between those two. But if RL is being written out, then Chad makes more sense - Chad is so damn hot, and let's face it, Kevin's so damn weak

Another prediction (not exactly a shocker) ... after going on and on like a broken record about what a great deal the Golden Plum venture is, Graham gets soooooooo sh*tcanned by Sarah, both as a consultant and as a boyfriend. Finally, glad to hear about the GLAAD award, not that there was a whole lotta competition out there, mind you. But I like how Kevin is just another Walker. He's successful, he's a a terrific son and a terrific brother, but he certainly has his share of issues. All told, though, no more so than his siblings. On the issues scale, I'd rank Kevin in the middle - worse off than Kitty or Sarah, but in better shape than Tommy and Justin. Saul certainly has his share of problems, more so than Kevin, but like I said before, painfully realistic for gay men of that generation.

Oh, I was just going with my gut feeling with Kitty and Rob Lowe's character. It's just, I think he will reconsider the decision, or regret the decision that it would put a rift between them. And they need Kitty to get in bed with another man--- this show doesn't have any relationship that really lasts.
As for Saul--- also a gut feeling that they'll write him off the show. Between the problem with the business, and his inability to cope his homosexuality, one thing else will develop in the show that would push him to kill himself. I had dealt with suicides (my sister tried it once years ago, and a doctor I worked with killed himself) in my lifetime, it still hurts whenever I think of it. However, I wouldn't be surprised that this show will take this path. I hope I'm wrong because I like to see the mature gay male character develop into a self accepting character like his nephew.

Saul can't die because then Sarah has no one to fight with and decide whether to trust or not. Tommy's gone off with Holly. What I think would be interesting is if Saul never comes out. He just deals with it. Rob Lowe has to stay on because he's nice to look at. He won't be in every episode because he has to do work in Washington so that will give Kitty some breathing room. I kind of feel like the tone of this show is to make people feel good at the end so the wedding will probably not be messed with. Like when they all jumped into the pool to end a season/episode. I was like, what? Who shot J.R.? But that's just not this show.