QUOTE(theodoresdaddy @ Oct 13 2007, 06:01 AM)

where in her vote to lable the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization does it say that she voted to give Bush the go ahead to attach Iran?
Hillary is a realist and that's why I'm supporting her
the Democrats need someone like her who isn't saying stuff to get elected like Richardson, who I used to support, and Obama, who I really want to like but can't
Did you read the language of that amendment? Labeling the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a "terrorist organization" can easily serve as a prelude to a Bush administration attack on the sovereign nation of Iran. Since Bush, Cheney, etc., along with their dupe General Saint Petraeus are constantly stepping up the rhetoric to blame Iran for every crisis our troops face--while saying ZIP about Saudi Arabia, which is a major source of the "insurgents" and funding for the Sunni insurgency--this "vote," organized by neocons Lieberman and Kyl was another gift to the Bush administration's extraordinarily dangerous and destructive hackery.
Said Senator and presidential candidate Chris Dodd (D-CT)
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"I cannot support the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on Iran. To do so could give this President a green light to act recklessly and endanger US national security. We learned in the run up to the Iraq war that seemingly non-binding language passed by this Senate can have profound consequences. We need the president to use robust diplomacy to address concerns with Iran, not the language in this amendment that the president can point to if he decides to draw this country into another disastrous war of choice."..."We shouldn't repeat our mistakes and enable this President again."
Said Senator Jim Webb (D-VA)
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“It could be read as tantamount to a declaration of war. What do we do with terrorist organizations? If they are involved against us, we attack them.”
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We haven’t had one hearing on this. I’m on the Foreign Relations Committee, I’m on the Armed Services Committee. We are about to vote on something that may fundamentally change the way the United States views the Iranian military and we haven’t had one hearing. This is not the way to make foreign policy. It’s not the way to declare war.
Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War authorization without fully reading up on it, and she's let herself be duped again. What does this say about this woman's judgment, or, was it for other reasons, which also redound to her questionable judgment?
Hillary is nobody's "realist." She is a craven opportunist who tries to see which way the wind is blowing and gets out in front of it. She'd still be better than all the buffoons the Republicans are running (save perhaps Ron Paul, and yes, I know he's made racially inflammatory statements in the past, but he's really the only sane Republican running), but she's nobody's realist. That vote in favor of Bush's war plans was not "realism," it was political opportunism. The realists voted AGAINST that authorization, which is why they've been smeared to the nth degree. She's now shillyshallying on pulling the troops out. Well come on, Mrs. Clinton, do you want them out or not? Or are you going to keep them their to further the oil companies' gains and games and then try to blame it all on George Bush? Seriously--I mean, I'm not fooled by this woman. Or do you equate craven opportunism with "realism"?
She is saying all kinds of things to get elected. Like her "new" health care plan. She knows full well it's not going to cover everyone. She's full of BS in claiming it will. Edwards and Obama never launched such a plan, but Clinton tried and she could marshall support to do it right this time through. Instead, she's playing games again.
Okay, you don't like Obama. Am I surprised? No. The man could walk on water and I'm sure you'd find some knock against him. So what about John Edwards? Is he not good enough either? Not ruthless enough? Hillary Clinton is not annointed, though the right-wing media are telling us she is. As I said, I'll vote for her against any of the Republicans, but I would far rather see someone who's not part of a longstanding machine, with double-side playing pollsters like Mark Penn, much of Bill Clinton's right-leaning, inept DLC gang, and creeps like Sandy Berger, in tow. (Millions of Americans rejected the DLC crapola last year--we want to get our troops out of Iraq NOW.) Because you know she's got Sandy Berger on the payroll again. Or does she? Who can say, she's equivocating yet again on something so basic. KEEP THAT CONVICTED FELON AWAY FROM YOUR CAMPAIGN. Yes. It's that easy, Mrs. Clinton. If she's a realist, Lord help all of us.