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theodoresdaddy
Lloyd Carr has already heard the fat lady sing and he's on his way out

I can't see Weis sticking around too much longer

Houston Nutt will be out as well

Bill Callahan is out

UCLA's Karl Dorrell is going to be out as well

Pitt's Dave Wannstedt and his famous mustache will be getting the boot as well

these are the first six that I can think of right off hand

NoLongerHere
Is there any merit to the speculation that Les Miles might leave LSU for Michigan? Curious here.

The Carr news does seem official now, but it actually, looks like Baylor's coach was officially the "first" to go:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3117521

The news on Nutt is just gossip right now, from all that I can tell, but it's also not going to take anyone by suprise when an official announcement is made.

theodoresdaddy
I was reading something that said that Baylor's coach will probably be fired after this weekend but he hasn't been fired yet

after Carr lost to Appy State, the pundits started talking about Miles going to Michigan

I can't imagine him leaving if LSU wins the national championship and I don't expect him to be a lame duck coach going into the bowl games

I'd expect that Michigan names someone before January
blueraider
QUOTE(theodoresdaddy @ Nov 18 2007, 09:05 PM) *

I was reading something that said that Baylor's coach will probably be fired after this weekend but he hasn't been fired yet




I would think that beating Buffalo would be enough to save anyone's job. Especially on the road tongue.gif .
Cougar Fan
Sonny Lubick will probably be out at Colorado State after about 70 years there
dfwAggie99
Dennis Franchione is definitely out after this weekend's Aggie-Longhorn game. I'm counting the days...good riddance to a complete waste of money.

The only suspense left is when the news conference will be held next Monday.
theodoresdaddy
of course there are rumors that Rodriguez is heading to College Station

but after last season, I doubt the rumors will be too loud this year
Palladio
It's official: Dennis Franchione has stepped down as head coach of Texas A&M. Two victories in a row over Texas could not save his job. The press conference was awkward; Fran and Byrne came in, Fran resigned, then got up and left as Byrne was talking. Kinda funny.
Boltergeist
Callahan out at Nebraska
NoLongerHere
The sportsticker on ESPN just reported that Mississippi coach Ed Orgeron (sp?) is out, too.

Edited to add link to story:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3125473
PCC
QUOTE(Boltergeist @ Nov 24 2007, 11:47 AM) *


This is stunning, STUNNING news! Completely out of nowhere!!!















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NoLongerHere
Nutt won't crack ...yet:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3127436

Boltergeist
Two jobs filled:

Mike Sherman to A&M

Bill Lynch removes "interim" from his title at Indiana
NoLongerHere
Chan Gailey out at Ga Tech:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071126/ap_on_...c_gatech_gailey

dfwAggie99
I wonder if Les Miles goes to Michigan before the LSU bowl game, since the Tigers lost over the weekend. No national championship to prepare for anymore...at least it looks that way right now.
NoLongerHere
Duke's coach is out, too...

ALSO, an informative "ranking" of coaches in trouble:
http://coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

I don't usually go for things so ...snarky. But the data (salary, age, W-L records all in one place) is extremely useful.
Boltergeist
Add So. Miss Jeff Bower to the list

the carousel is on crack today
NoLongerHere
Nutt DID crack, afterall, reports Sports Illustrated:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/foot...tt.arkansas.ap/

Cougar Fan
QUOTE(The B Man @ Nov 26 2007, 07:24 PM) *

Duke's coach is out, too...

ALSO, an informative "ranking" of coaches in trouble:
http://coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

I don't usually go for things so ...snarky. But the data (salary, age, W-L records all in one place) is extremely useful.

Link doesn't work sad.gif
NoLongerHere
Wow.

Didn't the ESPN feature on Nutt published months ago (last year?) report that subpoaned cell phone records show that Nutt was talking to other schools - Ole Miss included - LAST YEAR, DURING GAMES at Arkansas????

Jeez.
Thomas
QUOTE(dfwAggie99 @ Nov 26 2007, 06:52 PM) *

I wonder if Les Miles goes to Michigan before the LSU bowl game, since the Tigers lost over the weekend. No national championship to prepare for anymore...at least it looks that way right now.

Seems that way. Most people here think Les Miles has already landed the Michigan job but won't announce it until after the SEC Championship game against Univ. Tennessee. Want to hear a doomsday scenario? Les Miles is pre-occupied with the Michigan job; LSU's DC, Bo Pellini, is interviewing for the Nebraska job; LSU's OC hs no head coaching experience; LSU's starting QB, Matt Flynn, is hurt and probably won't start this Saturday against Tennessee; LSU's best defensive player, Glenn Dorsey is barely mobile (A slew of various injuries); the fastest guy on the team, Trendan Holiday, has a high ankle sprain; and these distracted and/or injuried players have to get ready to play UT in the SEC championship game? LSU players were devastated and openly crying after the Arkansas loss, so I don't think they are as interested in an SEC championship as UT is. The LSU/UT game could get real ugly real fast. There is a positive though. LSU is now very popular in places like Morgantown, Columbus, and Athens. Those teams needed either an LSU loss or a Kansas loss to have any chance at a National Championship, and they got, not one, but both, in just 24 hours of one another.

P.S. I have no idea why Michigan is so gung ho on Miles. He can coach, but if the standard by which the Wolverine faithful judge success is whuppin tOSU, Les won't measure up. He's a good man; a decent and warm individual, but in a game of football strategy and gametime coaching ability, Tressel will own him....again and again and again. As a coach, Les is a risk taker on offense, but will do nothing defensively to bother Tressel. I don't get it.
NoLongerHere
Greg Robinson is safe at Syracuse. Why, I have no clue. Count me as one of those "angry alumni" you read about at other schools who aren't happy with thier alma mater's current performance...

Even more interesting: Wannstedt gets an extension BEFORE the West Va game? HUH???!? I fully expect West Va. to hand Pittsburgh thier asses, as many pundits, commentators, sports journalists, BCS officials, you name it will all be watching this game for all purpises related to Heisman voting, BCS complaining, BCS praise, blah blah blah.

So why you would give Wannstedt an extension before a West Va. beat down ...I just don't get it.

EDITED: Ummm, yeah, I'm an idiot. And I apologize profusely to theodoresdaddy and GymMountainEER.
Boltergeist
QUOTE(The B Man @ Dec 1 2007, 01:14 PM) *

Greg Robinson is safe at Syracuse. Why, I have no clue. Count me as one of those "angry alumni" you read about at other schools who aren't happy with thier alma mater's current performance...

Even more interesting: Wannstedt gets an extension BEFORE the West Va game? HUH???!? I fully expect West Va. to hand Pittsburgh thier asses, as many pundits, commentators, sports journalists, BCS officials, you name it will all be watching this game for all purpises related to Heisman voting, BCS complaining, BCS praise, blah blah blah.

So why you would give Wannstedt an extension before a West Va. beat down ...I just don't get it.


Pitt's AD is Steve Pederson, he of the Nebraska mess. I'm surprised he didn't fire him to give Bill Callahan a second chance.

Or did Pederson's future self come and tell his present self that Wanny was gonna beat West Virginia.
GymMountainEER
QUOTE(Boltergeist @ Dec 2 2007, 03:33 AM) *

Pitt's AD is Steve Pederson, he of the Nebraska mess. I'm surprised he didn't fire him to give Bill Callahan a second chance.

Or did Pederson's future self come and tell his present self that Wanny was gonna beat West Virginia.



Allbarn's Tubberville coach is evidently entertaining the idea of coaching at Arkansas. What's funny about this?

Tubberville will be replacing Nutt at Arkansas who jumped ship to Ole Miss where Tubberville use to coach before jumping ship to Allbarn.


I can't say I would blame Tubberville. Auburn's kind of a shady program in the way it treated Tubberville years back for flying in Bobby Petrino secretly for an interview about the head coaching job when it wasn't even available.
NoLongerHere
ESPN Outside the Lines reported Karl Dorrell is out at UCLA. I just checked and Los Angeles Times is reporting the same...

I thought Ty Willingham would be next (before Karl).

theodoresdaddy
QUOTE(GymMountainEER @ Dec 2 2007, 01:55 PM) *

Allbarn's Tubberville coach is evidently entertaining the idea of coaching at Arkansas. What's funny about this?

Tubberville will be replacing Nutt at Arkansas who jumped ship to Ole Miss where Tubberville use to coach before jumping ship to Allbarn.
I can't say I would blame Tubberville. Auburn's kind of a shady program in the way it treated Tubberville years back for flying in Bobby Petrino secretly for an interview about the head coaching job when it wasn't even available.



why don't they just put the names of the coaches in a hat and assign them schools from there?


NoLongerHere
Rumor has it Tuberville was being coy about Arkansas, because he was actually waiting for the LSU job open up. Tuberville may leverage the Arkansas opportunity to get what he wants at Auburn. Or just to make Auburn sweat...
theodoresdaddy
Navy's coach is heading south to GA Tech

Greg Schiano is staying in Jersey

theodoresdaddy
Navy's coach is heading south to GA Tech

Greg Schiano is staying in Jersey

Boltergeist
Oklahoma St. OC Larry Fedora goes to Southern Miss.
NoLongerHere
And Karl Dorrell might be going to Duke.
I think that would be an EXCELLENT fit for both parties.
Illini_fan
Bobby Petrino Heading Back to college, at Arkansas
NoLongerHere
Hmmmm, Washington A.D. Todd Turner resigns. Is this Nebraska all over again?
He stood by Willingham (foolishly so, many say), but the W didn't stand by him... (rightfully so, some may say...)

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/226700.html
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/200...on_N.htm?csp=34

NoLongerHere
I'm going to call in Petrino-Gate. Arthur Blank tactfully but assertively took Petrino to task in a press conference, and came thisclose to insinuating that Petrino lied to his face (that is, that Petrino lied to Blank's face).

In many regards, I don't fault Petrino at all - he stepped into a frickin' mess, not only with Michael Vick, but with players who were not on board - nor anywhere near coming on board - with his coaching style. Vick's situation alone would seem to me to be a valid "get out of jail" (ooops) card.
SteelResolve
Petrino knew what he was getting into when he broke his contract with Louisville to take over the Falcons (and for the lure of more money). Every NFL team has some issues, most are just resolved internally--if the coach is a strong enough leader to handle them. Apparently, Petrino was not able to fill that role.

And even if you can justify Petrino leaving Atlanta, the way he did it -- dealing with Arkansas obviously in secret, not giving his employer (Arthur Blank) the decency of a face-to-face meeting, and not addressing his team directly but sneaking away in the middle of the night -- cannot be justified or even respected.
NoLongerHere
Oh, don't get me wrong, I think Petrino is an ass. If he had waited until the end of the year, though, I think most people would have said "Well...I understand why he bowed out." He wasn't going to be successful in Atlanta, even with Vick.
theodoresdaddy
and RRod might be taking the road north to Ann Arbor

after he held the school hostage last year for his little affair with Alabama, I really hope that if he is interviewing for Michigan that they let him with a good luck and God bless

after they collect on the buy-out clause in his contract, which he recently extended
blueraider
Gotta wonder......

when was the last time a school's head football and basketball coach left in the same calendar year for another school(the same exact one for both)
jerseyguy
Michigan has taken our basketball coach and now our football coach. Our women's hoops team is ranked in the top 15. Maybe they'll want to grab him, too. And how about our mens' and women's soccer coaches? Both those teams went pretty deep in the NCAAs this year. rolleyes.gif

Rodriguez got the WVU administration to empty the vault last season after he danced with Alabama. If you can believe the internet scuttlebut, RR was PO'd because WVU didn't come thru on a number of promises it made last year. Who knows. At this point, it probably doesn't much matter. But at least Michigan is helping to bankroll the WVU athletic department, since they've got to pay up on the buyout clauses - $4 million for RR and $2.5 million for Beilein last year.

Now the attention turns to a replacement. A lot of folks in WV want Terry Bowden, a native son. Personally, I think that would be a disaster. The guy left Auburn under a cloud, if I recall, and he hasn't coached in at more than 5 years. Jimbo Fisher has also been mentioned. I think we should go after the coach at Appy State. He's a proven winner - granted, in 1AA - and runs the spread offense much the way RR did. I just hope the WVU administration acts quickly. The last two weeks have not been the best of times for WVU football. The Fiesta Bowl could get real ugly, real quick. sad.gif Go Eers!
boomer400
jerseyguy, I agree that the App State coach would be a great choice but for the fact that he's pretty long in the years--68 years old. Might still be a good option anyway.
theodoresdaddy
Jimbo Fisher is the heir apparent at Florida State; the Appy State coach has reportedly stated that he wants to retire there and at 68, he's close to retirement

I'm just disgusted at this whole thing-a football coach working in a state where the median income is roughly $34K and he's leaving for a half million more!

Michigan's median is $44K

it's disgusting to pay these people so much, especially at state supported schools but if someone would dare criticize these salaries, they'd be crucified


NoLongerHere
I'd agree about coaching salaries if not for the amazing depths of support some of these coaches receive, especially have visited Arkansas just a very few months ago, where the median salary is less than $33,000 and the state is amongst the lowest in literacy but amongst highest in meth production and teen pregnancy. And the coaches there make millions.

Thing is, football is life in Arkansas, as it is in many other SEC states, so it's oddly, strangely, counter-intuitively accepted. There was a big hulabaloo about Joe Pa's salary in the state of PA recently, too, and people really rallied around Joe Pa. Go figure...
Penn State
QUOTE(The B Man @ Dec 16 2007, 10:19 PM) *
There was a big hulabaloo about Joe Pa's salary in the state of PA recently, too, and people really rallied around Joe Pa. Go figure...


Did you see his salary? It was about $500,000. Yes, he has other sources of income, but don't all coaches? Personally, I don't know how we're going to afford to attract a top coach when the time comes... they all make 4-8 times as much.



QUOTE(Illini_fan @ Dec 16 2007, 02:55 PM) *


Where's GymMountainEER? Wasn't he insisting that RR wasn't going anywhere last year, he was at WVU for life? huh.gif

NoLongerHere
The $500,000+ quoted for Joe Pa is absurdly misleading. Nearly all coaches make around $200 to $750 in "salary", but are guaranteed $500 to even millions more by the contracts their own institutions provide. So to say Joe Pa "only" makes the $500,000+ is just incorrect.

Check http://www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm for sample contracts.
theodoresdaddy
QUOTE(The B Man @ Dec 16 2007, 07:19 PM) *

I'd agree about coaching salaries if not for the amazing depths of support some of these coaches receive, especially have visited Arkansas just a very few months ago, where the median salary is less than $33,000 and the state is amongst the lowest in literacy but amongst highest in meth production and teen pregnancy. And the coaches there make millions.

Thing is, football is life in Arkansas, as it is in many other SEC states, so it's oddly, strangely, counter-intuitively accepted. There was a big hulabaloo about Joe Pa's salary in the state of PA recently, too, and people really rallied around Joe Pa. Go figure...


all I can say is people have extremely screwed up priorities

but as the case with West Virginia and Arkansas, college ball is the only game in town


Penn State
QUOTE(The B Man @ Dec 16 2007, 11:52 PM) *
The $500,000+ quoted for Joe Pa is absurdly misleading. Nearly all coaches make around $200 to $750 in "salary", but are guaranteed $500 to even millions more by the contracts their own institutions provide. So to say Joe Pa "only" makes the $500,000+ is just incorrect.

Check http://www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm for sample contracts.


I didn't say he makes only $500,000... I even said he has other sources of income. But that is the salary that the university pays, it's on the payroll, it's what goes towards the state retirement system. But even according to that link you cited, his total compensation is only $1.5 mil, far below what top coaches are making. That puts a big strain on an athletic department budget to make up the difference when the time comes. The athletic department at PSU is self supporting, it does not take money from the general university budget.

jerseyguy
QUOTE(golfer 24 @ Dec 16 2007, 10:31 PM) *

jerseyguy, I agree that the App State coach would be a great choice but for the fact that he's pretty long in the years--68 years old. Might still be a good option anyway.


I didn't realize Jerrry Moore was that old. Doesn't make much sense to bring in someone to run a program who's pushing 70. There are not reports out of Morgantown that Nick Sabin's name is being floated. Here we go!
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