Hee - Hee!

details about to be announced in a press conference......

It couldn't happen to a more judgemental, self-righteous prick......

You are SO right, MM! At least when Republicans get into these scandals, it's just immoral. What Spitzer did was involve himself in something immoral and illegal.

He ought to resign, or if he did this while governor, he must be impeached.

Stupid hypocrite. But what would one expect from a left-wing scuzzball like Spitzer?

Serves him right. He has single-handedly destroyed NY State's economy with his oppressive tax policies--gee, a Democrat and punishing tax policies, go figure!--and is driving business out of his state, so this serves him right!

BTW, I find it interesting that the same foaming-at-the-mouth leftists here didn't even bother to post this. Had this been a Republican, a half-dozen threads would have been posted within seconds, if not sooner. Typical.

spitzer expected to resign.

Politicians are generally hypocritical creeps. There are too few exceptions. Party is irrelevant. Eliot Spitzer, Larry Craig, Jim McGreevey, Bill Bennett. Hypocrites every one. Karma generally comes back and bites judgemental people in the ass.

I did, however, find it odd that certain others had not posted about this yet. I guess it hasn't aired on Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann's shows yet.

The real weakness here is his hubris. Prostitution should be legal and married people should sort out their own affairs.

I still care a lot more that as Attorney General, Spitzer was no great supporter of civil liberties in NY (which is why I didn't vote for him). But he's certainly not as sleazy a political gangster as Joe Bruno. Who could be?

That damn liberal New York Times! McCain was right... that damn paper only targets Republicans and frankly I'm sick of it. Damn media! .... oops. Um, what? Oh he's a Democrat? Oh ... um... well... um...

Politicians of both parties, and conservatives and liberals alike are all butt holes....
I think they are all full of crap...
They seem to get into this type of trouble more than the average person...

Hardly fair to moan about nobody posting about this considering it's Monday afternoon when most people are at work. And though I'm home I didn't have the TV on so I hadn't heard about this yet until reading Munnie's post.

I'm glad to see this idiot brought down, even if it is for something as stupid as soliciting a prostitute. How he ever even got elected is beyond me. But of all the crimes and misdemeanors, paying a girl for a blow job or a dirty sanchez or a golden shower or whatever he is into is a pretty minor offense IMO. But since he puts himself out there as some holier-than-thou, well let's just say Karma's gonna f**k you and you don't even have to pay her!

6K/hr/hooker

average joes can't afford this.

This pix says it all:

What is with these wives who stand up on that podium next these losers? Mrs. McGreevey, Mrs. Craig, Mrs. Spitzer, et al. I'd have alot more respect for these women if they let them stand up there all by themselves.

It like you can see right into her mind, and read Mrs. Spitzer's thoughts:

"What the f**k am I doing here?"

TRL

Pity about that pic. He's actually kinda cute. Which makes it all the more understandable that he's out looking for a hooker to bolster his obviously considerable ego.

I admire Spitzer the same way I admired Giuliani when he was a crime-fighter targeting the big criminals rather than the small fry. Obviously they have a similar weekness: Spitzer a serial John and Giuliani a serial husband. But Giuliani isn't cute so I guess he had to get married to get it.

The timing is interesting. Wonder if his endorsement of Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination will have an affect in that campaign.

This certainly doesn't look like a plus or minus for homeland security so I hope the Feds are keeping an eye on the real criminals as well.

But then this does demonstrate the value of FISA.....I guess???

So if he does resign eventually what happens to the governorship? Do they have a leiutenant governer who serves out his term? Will there be a quick election? This looks like it could be a bit more complicated than the primaries-that-weren't-but-now-might-be-maybe-depending-on-the-weather in Florida, Michigan..Denver?

You really gotta feel for these wives of these jerks who stand up there with them even after they've put them thru this...
Same goes for anyone married to someone in the public eye...

Bill W has it right. It is sheer hubris! And absolute stupidity. What was he thinking? My God, the man was State Attorney General! Unfortunately, the zeal that he brought to that office was not the type for his position as governor. According to the news, the prostitute, "Kristen," traveled to DC from NYC after he had called for her. Therefore, the feds are investigating.

Lunacy on his part!

He cannot survive this politically. He's going to be indicted.

Yes, prostitution should be legalized and whether he's cheating on his wife is no one's business except his and his wife's. But prostitution is illegal. It has ties to organized crime. He has resign.

The sad part is that he was right about the sleaze in Albany.

It's funny. Every time something like this happens, I'm reminded of Elmer Gantry with Burt Lancaster, Jean Simmons, and Shirley Jones.

Boy, stupidity boggles the mind!

If he resigns - and it would seem that he MUST - the Lt. Governor, David Paterson, would become Governor. Interestingly, Paterson is blind.

I don't know if his condition has worsened, but when I met him back in 1994, Paterson was considered to be "legally blind". He had some vision at that time.

I played basektball in the Gay Games that year and then Governor Cuomo came and played with us during a photo op and Paterson was there playing with us. He was on our roster though I don't think he actually played with us during the tournament.

He gets what he deserves in my opinion. Its a damn shame, but he made a huge blunder and now will have to pay the price. Politicians of BOTH parties will never get it it seems, but it just so happens the Republicans have been way more out in front over the past several years with their scandals. It won't be the last of course...will be interesting to see how this plays out esp. with Hillary a big supporter of him. Not much comment from her yet....oh and welcome back MIB or Veritas or whatever you are. Figured you would throw in your right wing nut two cents worth...

(snip of the rest of that crap)

F**k off, troll.

This amuses me:

It's like Jason Giambi's steroids confession all over again!

So what do you get for 6 grand an hour???

Don't worry. For every Democrat that makes a mistake, there is a rethuglican that tries to top them.

http://www.newsok.com/article/3214388/

(not to hijack your thread)

wifey looks beat. no wonder, eliot had to hire a hooker.

As interestingly, he'd become New York's first ever African-American governor, and only the 4th in US history.

As for Spitzer, I'm speechless. I'd have posted it, but I didn't learn about it until a friend of New York State told me about it by phone this evening as I was going into a reception.

I thought his reformist agenda was great, and while AG, he did a lot to keep the financial services industries in line, though as is clear from horrific situation the banks, mortgage companies, and other financial service sector entities are in, a lot more needed to be done. (They're talking about a widescale "margin call" right now, with possible pending massive bank failures!) He was often too over-righteous, and as Bill W says, he wasn't great about civil liberties, but he did seem like he'd be a breath of fresh air from the Republican hack under whose tenure New York State lost hundreds of thousands of jobs.

(Veritas must be aware of the long tenure of Rethug George Pataki, and its disastrious effects on New York State employment. He was in office when Hillary Clinton made her promise about trying to create all those jobs. Didn't work out for either of them, did it?)

I also agree that prostitution shouldn't be illegal, and I don't give a damn what people do in their marriage so long as they're consenting adults, not physically harming each other or, if they have children, not harming them. Who am I to tell these two adults how to deal with whatever's going on between them?

Nevertheless, this whole situation seems really idiotic and, as people have said, hubristic. Since he made a big deal about busting prostitution rings he knew that would be utterly dangerous to pursue, on top of which he ought to have known about the Mann Act, barring transportation of a sex worker across state lines for prostitution! Hell, the man is a multimillionaire, he could have flown to Amsterdam, gotten his rocks off for 1/3rd of the price, and been back in Albany to tuck his kids in!

As far as I know, that milquetoast lives somewhere in Illinois. I don't. I'm in the land of Truth and Freedom! Deal with it, you Spitzer lover and lefty apologist.

he's not exactly bad looking. in fact, i'd do him.

it was a stupid thing to do. he can easily get hot chicks. even not with his looks, but with his money and position.

Wow, the details on Smoking Gun are a great read. Spitzer was apparently a repeat customer. On the night in question he paid $4,300 in cash for Kristen. The fee included some "extras" that Kristen told prosecutors some people consider "not safe." Spitzer also paid extra so he would have a line of credit for next time. Kristen said she had been told this client was "difficult," but that she had no problem with him.

$4,300! For that much money Kristen better have a brother!

My partner's niece works for his wife!
Should be some interesting days at work coming up.....

Or at least the party name would have been in the title of the thread, But I'm sure the same people who trash scandal -tinged Republican (and it does seems there has been a lot lately) will comment on this hypocrite also. I know that because they are fair & rational. Seriously, I'm sure all those who blasted Larry Craig will want to similarly attack Gov. Spitzer, its pretty much the same except for the public setting.

This is absolutely ridiculous. The man needs to resign. What is up with these holier than thou politicians who get caught in these scandals. Larry Craig was always about voting no for gay rights, Mark Foley was all about protecting kids from internet predators and there his McNasty ass is sending scandalous online texts to a male page, and then the illustrious Gov Spitzer who made a career out of going after those whose ethics were deplorable. I think Chris Matthews or one of them said it best tonight...its like Elliot Ness being caught in a bootlegging scandal.

And for $4300 an hour I believe it is...I don't even want to imagine what she had to do for that man.

As for these wives...I don't know what the deal is with them. McGreevy's wife standing up there with that strange stoic half grin on her face and Spitzer's wife today looked like she would rather be anywhere else. If he were my husband, I would've gotten him home and kicked his ass!!!! How dare you humiliate me like this for the world to see?!!! Lord have mercy I would've put my husband THROUGH IT!!!

Maybe the wives do love these guys, on top of feeling a commitment and responsibility to them. 50% or so of US marriages end in divorce, with the highest levels in the Bible belt and the lowest in the liberal northeast. As we saw with Hillary Rodham Clinton, the bond was stronger than the husband's transgression, so that may be part of why Silda Wall Spitzer is hanging around.

The hypocrisy of Spitzer's anti-ethics campaign does mirror Craig's hypocrisy, and both appear to have committed crimes--well, Craig pleaded so--but Spitzer wasn't anti-gay like Craig or Foley in their public, legislative stances (and he also isn't a racist), so I have to say, I don't feel any Schadenfreude about his current crisis. So many of the anti-gay GOP family values crowd--David Vitter, for example, Ted Haggard, etc.--are hypocrites it's almost par for the course, but Spitzer really set himself with his anti-prostitution grandstanding and his constant drumbeat about "ethics." I guess he's probably glad he didn't mention the word "morals."

Speaking of which, why is John McCain going on about the sanctity of marriage and his support of Arizona's anti-gay marriage legislation? This is a man who dumped his injured, suffering longtime wife to marry a much younger heiress, who was addicted to drugs, and then he was cavorting around with a younger version of his second wife to the extent that his aides had to bar her from spending any time with him. Who the hell is he to be running his mouth about the sanctity of marriage? Puh-lease, talk about hypocrites!

Mdterp01, I had the same question: what was this woman offering for $4,300? Platinum p*ssy?

If the Feds are going to prosecute Spitzer, which I'm sure they are, to the delight of Republicans everywhere, I think he should step down, and let Governor Patterson take office. If they're not going to prosecute him, he should follow the lead of GOP posterboys like Vitter and stay in office. Then again, being convicted and publicly disgraced and shown to be a liar hasn't stopped Larry "Lavatory" Craig, has it?

I agree that what he did was stupid and that his career is probably finished.

It is ridiculous that prostitution is illegal and that people go to jail for it.

I felt bad for his wife, who is yet again another pained spouse who is forced to "stand with her man" during idiotic episodes like this.

If she forgives him, then I think we should, too. My personal belief is that monogamy and fidelity are outdated so these are not transgressions, just a part of life.

m1011....I totally agree on the fidelity aspect. For one thing, I'm from the belief that its not natural to be with one sexual partner for life or for a really extended period of time. Now of course there are exceptions to the rule. There are those who are 100% faithful I'm sure. But for the most part, no. I used to go into relationships believing that I was going to have a boyfriend that was 100% faithful to me. I don't have that fantasy anymore. Call my cynical if ya want, but I'm a realist. I've been with my boyfriend for some time now and I'd be an idiot to think that his fine Dominican ass has been faithful to me since we've been together. When we decided to go to a "relationship" status I just put it on the table that I don't believe most men are faithful, and I told him if he screws around that he just better wrap it up. For me there is a difference between having sex/f*cking and making love.

I'm sure Gov. Spitzer loves his wife, but he doesn't want to do $4300 things with his wife/mother of his children. He wants to do that with some woman he can do his thing with and go home to the woman he loves. I know it sounds sick and warped but its actually quite understandable. I do believe that many pick a man/woman to be their partner and the one they want to build a life with. Sure they cheat but they are going back home to that man/woman because thats who they love and thats who many are committed and invested with. Now some will say that if you cheat then you are not committed to the relationship. I don't agree. As someone who has cheated myself, I loved the guy I was with at the time, I just liked new ass/pingas. Those were my carefree, scandalous early 20s...now I'm a seasoned 30 years old and am more about settling down. I've gotten all that foolishness out...I think

For women its probably different because most of them attach more emotion to sex so its often hard for them to think in these terms. Women generally think different then men when it comes to these things. But, I've just come to find that I know that my boyfriend is doing the intimate things with me that he's not doing with a jump off. Its bing, bang, boom, and nice knowin ya with a jump off. There's no staying after and cuddling and basking in the glow of the sex you just had. Now, this isn't something that has ever come up in my relationship with my boyfriend. I have never asked him if he's cheated on me and I haven't observed any evidence to make me think he has. Same with me. But, he takes business trips and who knows whats going on. I trust him, but I also realize that if its got a dick and balls, you're gonna more than likely have a problem when it comes to fidelity. Again, call me cynical but thats just what I've come to accept since most guys I know have cheated and mostly all the men in my family have cheated on their wives. Now of course I would love to believe that any guy I'm with is 100% faithful to me but I'm not going to drive myself crazy wondering this about my boyfriend.

I think you guys got it all wrong....he didn't pay $4,300 for sex, he paid $4,300 for her to LEAVE! What an utter moron. But hey, at least he wasn't cruising the stalls at JFK airport or hitting on interns. We'll leave all that to the Rethuglicans....after all, they have cornered that market already!

So Veritas lives in the "land of truth and freedom". Hmmm..must mean you live in the White House then, which is NOTORIOUS for its truth and freedom....sounds about right.

I'm surprised that none of these wives have gone postal on their husbands...Or go Lorena Bobbitt on them.

NY Post headline: HO NO!

JIP, or how 'bout "HO NO YOU DID'N!"

McGreevey's ex-wife was on TV this morning. I expected she'd be shrewish and vindictive, but she was actually quite sympathetic and sweet. She essentially said when this happens your whole world comes crashing down around you, that you kind of go through the motions, that you think you have to do what's best for your children, etc. She said it's only later that the reality of the betrayal really hits home. I guess I can understand that a bit better, but still......

MM, actually that's the normal (if you will) multi-level response when you're hit w/ such astounding, yet betraying news. In the case of Mrs. Spitzer the angry stage is gonna be hard for her I'm sure. Plus, there are stories that her husband was asking for unsafe sexual pleasures. That would be enough for any person to go postal. I wish all of these wives the best in life to be honest.

Oh, I'm sure it'll be brutal for her, SCT. On the other hand, you have to wonder if over the years when Spitzer would grandstand and really just publicly humiliate people she ever - in the privacy of their own home - urged him to try and be more human.

For me, the three teenage daughters must have it the worst. There's just such an "ick factor" to knowing that he wanted unsafe sex with a woman who probably is not that much older than his oldest daughter.

Yikes!!!

Breaking news on MSNBC. New York Republicans are threatening Spitzer, to either quit in 48 hours, or they will seek to impeach him......thats the ONLY thing I admire about Republicans is when they threaten, they don't do it quietly. Wish some Dems. had more of a spine like that.

Truth be told HT, he should have resigned @ his news conference. What an arrogant jerk! To think that the people of the state of NY, or this country for that matter, still want you in office?! Good grief Charlie Brown, get a clue!

...For better for worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health...

I wouldn't be surprised if he's holding on to that as a bargaining chip. He may be negotiating with federal prosecutors for a lesser charge, with his resignation being part of the deal. It's actually pretty smart; it's also part of the politics as usual that he was supposed to help clean up. I wonder what kind of "deal" prosecutor Spitzer would have given a suspect? My guess is not a very good one.......

Me, myself -- I don't give a damn if my public servants are johns. (So much for his "any morality" simpering.) But he's made it impossible to continue holding his office in this sanctimonious, sexually hypocritical bulls**t land of ours.

That Bill W, but also the fact that he was goin after "corrupt criminals" & prosecuting them. Hypocrisy @ its best is what's @ stake here. Just like the "holy than thou" right-wingers who are caught literally w/ their pants down. Gee whiz, that alone should make him realize why he's being called to step down...

Good point too MM 'bout his "bargaining chip."

You are right, Munson Man. That is probably what he is doing. He apologized yesterday in his statement...but for what? More than likely, he did not want to implicate himself in hopesof some deal.

My heart goes out to his family. But I'm sick of these politicians using their wives as props to salvage what remains of a political career. I saw McGreevey's former wife interviewed today, and, indeed, she did not appear vindictive, just sympathetic to what Spitzer's wife is going through. Commenting on why she stood by McGreevey when he announced his resignation et al, she said that it's not as simple as turning off a switch and not caring for the person anymore. It's only afterwards that the enormity sinks in. Still though, these disgraced politicians are being so manipulative and selfish. Be upstanding, go out there alone, admit the wrong that you've done, and apologize. I'd have more respect for the guy, if he did that.

Do you want to know the coolest thing about this?

If Spitzer resigns, and he should, the LT Governor of New York (David Paterson) would become not only the first black governor of New York, but the first legally blind governor of any state EVER.

That's pretty cool.